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[UberLevi]

Stannis probably isn't dead. His last words to Brienne are "Go on, do your duty."

I think that might've triggered in Brienne's head that "Oh shit, that's right. My whole point in being here was to get Sansa and I let my vendetta get the better of me and lost my chance to sneak into Winterfell."

At which point she'll probably use Stannis as a bartering chip to get inside Winterfell's walls. Followed by her revelation that Sansa is no longer there. Brienne will ask for a couple of horses in return for Stannis and sets out to find Sansa before Ramsay does now that the word is out.

 

[Discotheque]

riverlands would have been better no doubt.

i worry about how badly they might fuck up the iron islands and euron.

edit: or not, they did great work with the likes of cersei and oberynn imo.

 

[Mxrz]

Not seen it mentioned, but Melisandre looked shook. Carice van Houten has been stellar in that role. Maybe she'll lose her faith like Thoros did.

Too much of the North will be unresolved without Stannis or Jon. What's Bran going to do? Fight the White Walkers to protect the people that allowed his family to be butchered? I just don't think the story can work without one of them. Otherwise, the viewer might as well just join Team Night King.

 

[eot]

I wonder why they didn't show Stannis' death, it reminds me a bit of Asha's not-death actually. Not sure Brienne would chicken out at that point though, plus his role in the story is done.

 

[Shuggananas]

Stannis probably isn't dead. His last words to Brienne are "Go on, do your duty."

I think that might've triggered in Brienne's head that "Oh shit, that's right. My whole point in being here was to get Sansa and I let my vendetta get the better of me and lost my chance to sneak into Winterfell."

At which point she'll probably use Stannis as a bartering chip to get inside Winterfell's walls. Followed by her revelation that Sansa is no longer there. Brienne will ask for a couple of horses in return for Stannis and sets out to find Sansa before Ramsay does now that the word is out.

Fuck no. No way. That would be the cheapest twist ever.

I wonder why they didn't show Stannis' death, it reminds me a bit of Asha's not-death actually. Not sure Brienne would chicken out at that point though, plus his role in the story is done.

Would have been too graphic ? Looked like she cut his head

 

[Grasshopper]

Jon is so getting resurrected by melisandre, she still has to use her king-child-burning voodoo.

Also, screw Olie.

 

[eot]

I'm guessing they swapped Brienne and LSH with that Stannis scene. She asked for his last words, and Stannis said "go on do your duty." At that point she remembered that her sworn duty is to rescue Sansa (you can totally see her hesitate when he said that) and she didn't end up killing him - just like LSH didn't end up killing Brienne despite the fakeout.

That's a good observation, could very well be the case

Would have been too graphic ? Looked like she cut his head

Aray's stabbing was way more graphic. They show heads flying every season.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

The wrong people died in that last episode. Usually at least one baddy bites the dust...

 

[Mxrz]

Well. I mean. Stannis burned his own daughter. So. . . not exactly rocking that Lawfully Good there.

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

Dammit Thoros.

Get your ass on The Wall and ress Jon

 

[Templar Wizard]

I thought it was a body double in a wig for Headey for the nude scene... but no, we get full knockers and a Merkin for many many minutes.

Well done!

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Well. I mean. Stannis burned his own daughter. So. . . not exactly rocking that Lawfully Good there.

I thought we agreed that Stannis isn't dead?

Just kidding, the scene with his daughter was creepy, give you that.

 

[toastyToast]

Stannis probably isn't dead. His last words to Brienne are "Go on, do your duty."

I think that might've triggered in Brienne's head that "Oh shit, that's right. My whole point in being here was to get Sansa and I let my vendetta get the better of me and lost my chance to sneak into Winterfell."

At which point she'll probably use Stannis as a bartering chip to get inside Winterfell's walls. Followed by her revelation that Sansa is no longer there. Brienne will ask for a couple of horses in return for Stannis and sets out to find Sansa before Ramsay does now that the word is out.

Fucking no. She took the swing.

I'd be legit mad if this happened. Which is why it's probably gonna happen

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

I thought it was a body double in a wig for Headey for the nude scene... but no, we get full knockers and a Merkin for many many minutes.

Well done!

It is a body a double

If you've seen Headey's nekkid body in 300 and compare it now to this nude scene in this episode its entirely different

I think this episode has shown so many cg dicks as well

 

[cartoon_soldier]

Jon Snow being permanently dead would be a big fuck you to the book readers and show watchers. There is no way something like that would be different in show vs. Books either.

 

[Arondight]

Watching that death scene kind of makes me like the end of rome a lot more. A lot more tension going on and wasnt a one on one stabbing which kind of had me laughing abit. Kind of what I had in mind when it said knives in the dark. That and the horror and betrayal look on mance rayders face.

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

Theon is really the master of his craft. Betraying people.

Should be a montage on how many people he had stabbed in the back by now

 

[Templar Wizard]

It is a body a double

If you've seen Headey's nekkid body in 300 and compare it now to this nude scene in this episode its entirely different

I think this episode has shown so many cg dicks as well

Yes, wow!
http://news.moviefone.com/2014/10/07/cost-200000-lena-headey-nude-game-of-thrones/

 

[Bitch Pudding]

Jon Snow being permanently dead would be a big fuck you to the book readers and show watchers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wn5K9S3kNo4

 

[Discotheque]

Watching that death scene kind of makes me like the end of rome a lot more. A lot more tension going on and wasnt a one on one stabbing which kind of had me laughing abit. Kind of what I had in mind when it said knives in the dark. That and the horror and betrayal look on mance rayders face.

rome has always been on another level compared to this show. et, tu brutus? >>> et tu, olly?

i'm amazed james purefoy or kevin mckidd have yet to be cast in this.

 

[foxtrot3d]

rome has always been on another level compared to this show. et, tu brutus? >>> et tu, olly?

i'm amazed james purefoy or kevin mckidd have yet to be cast in this.

They've specifically refused to do the show.

 

[eot]

(non readers)

Yeah I don't think Stannis is dead. HBO really likes to make it clear when someone is officially dead. They'll throw all the gore they can at ya, I don't see why they would opt out of a "Stannis' head gets chopped off and it goes flying" scene yet show Arya landing an ultra combo fatality on Meryn Trant.

So the Hound's alive too?

They're catching on!

 

[Raonak]

Would have been too graphic ? Looked like she cut his head

Uh... did you forget the death of Ned Stark?

 

[toddhunter]

Jon Snow being permanently dead would be a big fuck you to the book readers and show watchers. There is no way something like that would be different in show vs. Books either.

There is a 0% chance Jon Snow is dead.

There is some chance that Kit Harington will no longer play Jon Snow because he comes back as a wolf/white walker/leaf on a tree.

 

[Shuggananas]

Uh... did you forget the death of Ned Stark?

We saw like half of it
Sword came down then it cut to something else iirc
The beheading in S01E01 was probably the most graphic I think

 

[nib95]

Would have been too graphic ? Looked like she cut his head

In the same episode that Arya stabbed a guys eye balls, chest, shoulders, stomach, and slit his throat...

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

Uh... did you forget the death of Ned Stark?

In the same episode that Arya stabbed a guys eye balls, chest, shoulders, stomach, and slit his throat...

NOT GRAPHIC ENOUGH

 

[Soyongdori]

I don't know how far the TV show is gonna splinter from the book by killing off Stannis this early. I mean, they are basically already skipping over huge chunk of story line by eliminating him from the tv show and not introducing Aegon Targaryen and Golden Company invasion. Are they gonna create their own story line?

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

Are they gonna create their own story line?

Yep, they've mentioned this before. D&D will just have to make up stories of their own but they're gonna end up with same conclusion as in the books

 

[danm999]

Jon Snow being permanently dead would be a big fuck you to the book readers and show watchers. There is no way something like that would be different in show vs. Books either.

Yeah I mean, they explicitly got Melisandre back to the Wall even though she left it so I think we can all see where that's going.

 

[blainethemono]

rome has always been on another level compared to this show. et, tu brutus? >>> et tu, olly?

i'm amazed james purefoy or kevin mckidd have yet to be cast in this.

i always imagined the bear pit scene to be more like the gladiator battle at the end of Rome s1, was totally disappointed by it because of that

They've specifically refused to do the show.

pretty sure they weren't entirely serious, or at least Purefoy wasn't

i always wanted Ray Stevenson on this show as Victarion, but now he's on Black Sails, and that's a better show so whatever

 

[JeffZero]

i'm thinking season 6 is probably going to start at the exact moment season 5 ended, Carnivale/Rome style

none of the customary buildup and re-establishment of what all the characters are doing, it'll just hit the ground running

too many ridiculous cliffhangers for this not to happen

I firmly believe this is the plan. I noticed the production team talking about how "tonally, this year's finale is different from what we've done before" and figured they were talking about it ending with cliffhangers galore and such, as per ADWD.

And thus, I've figured 6x01 is going to hit the ground running. Which is very good.

 

[Enosh]

#teamstannisisdead

at least i hope he is, after 4 seasons of character assassination he deserves some peace, whatever they would do with him if he isn't is worse than him being dead

 

[hendersonhank]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Stannis would be alive. Did she suddenly decide she needed more firewood and so she swung her sword into a nice dead tree branch? Or maybe she's cutting a splint for his leg?

 

[Soyongdori]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Stannis would be alive. Did she suddenly decide she needed more firewood and so she swung her sword into a nice dead tree branch? Or maybe she's cutting a splint for his leg?

Or maybe she gave him a flesh wound, giving a symbolic death gesture. I mean, there are people in nonspoiler thread thinking Jon Snow isn't dead, while Stannis is definitely dead.

 

[Madness]

Maybe Doran will forgive them again. He said he didn't believe in third chances, but he really meant fourth chances.

I liked the episode enough. I think you guys are going to always be disappointed moving forward because the show is not the books. The butterfly effect has happened so much large details will now be cut and changed. Most show watchers are upset as hell but that's because they killed Jon. Otherwise they loved the walk, they liked Varys coming back, they're happy Stannis is dead after the Shireen burning. Most of my whatsapp group are giving it a B+/A- score for a finale in between the fuck this show, the Starks cannot get a break.

They've really messed with how I envisioned Essos. I mean they had Dany be what appeared to be Northern Ireland aka Westeros style lands as opposed to North or East of Mereen. At this point, if say Essos not only has better cities, better infrastructure, but it appears they are so much more advanced than Westeros all together.

I really disliked the Walking Dead style convenience factor in scenes. Oh, here are the Boltons coming out of nowhere in full formation, thousands of horses all silent while Stannis comes out of the trees. Same for the Dothraki. She can't see them from the cliff and goes down now in the middle and thousands swarm? Why didn't Arya use needle for Meryn Trant?

Final note, seems Jon Snow really is dead. His character that is. Whatever is reborn won't be Jon Snow, it'll be Azor Ahai or even the Lord of Light himself. All those saying why didn't he warg, the show has only established Bran could warg. Would just be out of nowhere to have him warg into ghost now. Kit cut his hair said they gave him a wrap party, he's looking for work for next year and won't be back. What if the reason is that Melisandre doesn't revive him until the final episode, when White Walkers march on the wall and there is no hope and Melisandre goes to his body and revives him then? That way it makes sense he's not coming back for next year because he'll be back for the 7th season? I don't know I've never seen actors flat out lie like this if it's a bait.

 

[JeffZero]

Kit's grown his hair back completely since the time that was written, actually.

The one bit that does raise my brow is him specifically saying he won't be back for next season.

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

Since two of my favourites are gone; Stannis and Jon. I guess its time for

#TeamTyrion

 

[M.Bluth]

I wonder why they didn't show Stannis' death, it reminds me a bit of Asha's not-death actually. Not sure Brienne would chicken out at that point though, plus his role in the story is done.

we'll find out she hit the tree, and Stannis will join her and Pod in their adventures, because that makes sense

 

[UberLevi]

I don't understand why anyone thinks Stannis would be alive. Did she suddenly decide she needed more firewood and so she swung her sword into a nice dead tree branch? Or maybe she's cutting a splint for his leg?

I feel like Brienne has too much honor to kill a man who was wounded in a battle she didn't participate in. Like it'd be a hollow victory if she just killed him then and there. He wanted to die because he'd lost his army, his wife, and his daughter. Maybe she didn't want to give him the satisfaction.

Like in Breaking Bad:

Spoiler

Jesse had every reason to kill Walt, but he saw that Walt was wounded, broken, and had nothing else to live for. So out of spite he left Walt to his own devices instead of taking revenge.

 

[Interceptor]

Cersei and Dany were surprisingly good.

Meh to the rest. Stannis killed by fucking Brienne? Come on. Total 180 on why Sam leaves the wall. Aryas blindness becoming a punishment rather than part of her training? Face masks? Varys in Mereen? Pycelle and Kevan alive? A poisoned death kiss 100 feet away from Dorne? You have to be kidding me.

Also fuck Olli.

 

[Joni]

Seriously, it was a really long and shitty section of the books and they did well with what they had to work with.

And they managed to make it worse while just cutting away stuff was enough. They took the plot and did something else completely while they could have took what Martin wrote, condensed it and had better results without taking so much time.

 

[Madness]

Kit's grown his hair back completely since the time that was written, actually.

The one bit that does raise my brow is him specifically saying he won't be back for next season.

Yeah maybe next season is Melisandre trying to revive him and only in the final episode do his eyes open. Maybe that's why he said he won't be back next season. Reading the show runners interview with Vanity Fair they say Jon Snow is dead too, the same honor that got Ned killed etc.

They're being a little too cliffhangerish with the storylines. Will turn a lot of people off eventually. Oh well, gonna miss Kit. Whether you liked his acting or not, he was a major part of the 'heart' of the show.

 

[JeffZero]

Reading the show runners interview with Vanity Fair they say Jon Snow is dead too, the same honor that got Ned killed etc.

I think saying he's definitely dead is a reasonable statement regardless, at least. I mean... he died, but most of us are pretty sure he'll be resurrected, in some form or another, heh. They run a fine line in those interviews but they run it well.

 

[Kweh]

Any good reaction videos up yet? I loved the Red Wedding ones

 

[Cpt.Underpants]

 

[John Dunbar]

the funniest thing d&d could do is have jon snow actually be dead but still pay harrington to show up on set in costume to make everyone go "i knew he wasn't really dead".

 

[curlyfriski]

"You want a good girl but need a bad pussy"

"but need a bad pussy"

"bad pussy"

Send help please

 

[Madness]

I had captions on, she said 'you want a good girl but need THE bad pussy'.

 

[JeffZero]

That's vital by the way. There's only one bad pussy and it's her own. Bronn's a changed man as he departs for his sixth-season adventure; he has been made aware there is only the one bad pussy in all the Seven Kingdoms.