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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 - Sundays on HBO
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LegalEagleMike
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He can always take the black.
That's all I can recall either.
It's enough though that I remain convinced we're looking at ~25-28 more episodes and not 20.
Arya warging Nymeria, slash training after her blindness.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
The same place all the other wolves are.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Book Stannis had a noble cause. But as D&D have argued, show Stannis is primarily motivated by ambition. Show Stannis's plot this season has been the classic tale of an ambitious man having everything taken from him and being humbled. Strangely enough, next season Show Stannis might be closer in characterization to book Stannis even though their plots are now entirely different.
The only reason I can think of to keep Stannis alive at this point is if him moving away from the Lord of Light and finding something else to fight for is where his story is going. Maybe he, Theon, and the Hound all team up to talk about how guilty they feel.
Also, as a counterpoint, Gwendoline Christie seems to believe she killed him in this interview: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/15/game-thrones-brienne-stannis
Also, as a counterpoint, Gwendoline Christie seems to believe she killed him in this interview: http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/15/game-thrones-brienne-stannis
wherever wolves go
Please, no.
Alright, dammit, I love the show including this season but I laughed.
If he's alive, his purpose remains the same. He's still king, and he'll fight to the bitter end and then some.
Plot-wise, and considering the context in the show, he'd still have a purpose as well. Unless Jon's parents are revealed right after the resurrection, the northmen could still have to fight for a king that will kill the Boltons, fight for the Starks and put them back in Winterfell.
Sansa knows Bran and Rickon are alive, so they won't fight for her as queen, and Jon will probably remain "Ned's bastard" for a while.
Wait, Benedict Cumberbatch! I couldn't sleep because of this! But I'm reading reports that his hair is just as long again already.
I had the opposite impression. She never really mentions the act and when Stannis is brought up she mentions her oath to Cat. I think this guy could be right.
So the same plot from last season? Nah.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Like everything relating to Dorne this season, I felt like Myrcella's death was poorly handled. She reconciles with Jaime, even going so far as to endorse his incestuous relationship with her mother, just moments before the poison kicks in and she dies? Talk about heavy-handed...
Which means not in the budget. I see.
Arya's plot is a bit jumbled up. She had her sight back in the books, but she did the ship dude after that.
The poison kiss thing really was silly. That also would start a new war wouldn't it? Show Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are so dumb its ruining Pedro's stellar Oberyn by base association.
Varys being back and not killing Kevan isn't up to speed either. Unless that's out. Given the, I would think, coming war with Dorne, maybe they'll keep him around.
The poison kiss thing really was silly. That also would start a new war wouldn't it? Show Ellaria and the Sand Snakes are so dumb its ruining Pedro's stellar Oberyn by base association.
Varys being back and not killing Kevan isn't up to speed either. Unless that's out. Given the, I would think, coming war with Dorne, maybe they'll keep him around.
grandjedi6
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Tyrion is stealing Selmy's plot.
Jaime and Sansa might be returning to their original plots.
Bran, Arya, Theon and Cersei have a small amount of plot still to go. Plus there are lots of subcharacters they could bring back.
Infinite Stars
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I think dead Stannis makes the most sense theme wise for the show, even though I don't like it because they rushed a lot.
We have a man who chose his family over his duty as his first real act of being a leader, and his final act is choosing his duty over his family. Kind of poetic, I think.
Not really, there was no Stark loyalist plot this season. Stannis used his own men + sellswords, no northmen.
They aren't going to do the Battle of Winterfell 2.0 this time with extra Northmen and humbler Stannis.
No way. There's nothing to return to. They've both gone so far off tangent that it's no longer possible for them to go in a different direction. Jaime will be dealing with a dead Myrcella and Cersei's trail, and his character still loves Cersei and won't abandon her. Completely different from the books. Sansa is now with Theon, she knows her brothers are alive, and soon everyone in the North will know that Sansa Stark is alive and on the run. Again, completely different from the books.
FinalStageBoss
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lol stannis and his army are worthless.
meh ending.
meh ending.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
"You want a good girl but you need a bad pussy."
I feel like this needs to be at the top of the page. Of every page, really.
I feel like this needs to be at the top of the page. Of every page, really.
The North Forgets.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Look into D&D's heart. You know it to be true.
Once Sansa tells LittleFinger about Rickon being alive, someone will be sent to find him and LF will use him to unite the North against the Boltons. In fact, with Theon likely heading to the Vale too, D&D could just give the rest of Stannis's plotline to LittleFinger outright.
I thought it played well with Ellaria being chill about Twincest the episode before. That seemed sincere. Killing Mycella wasn't personal re Jaime and it wasn't personal re Myrcella. Ellaria believes too strongly in family names, holding people she basically likes accountable for the sins of their father. It's a big theme in the show and the books, how much should a family name matter.
Well, men on foot can't defeat men on horseback in any case. Unless it's Braveheart.
Purple Cheeto
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Hanging out with the rest of the used up CG budget.
It was kinda boring and weird at times.
- The Dothraki army was coming from all sides, like they were homing in on Dany. That feels strange because they shouldn't know she is there.
- I'm fine with jumbling around the Arya plot, still makes sense.
- The walk of shame, they nailed it. They really nailed it. Too bad Robert Strong has a head.
- The Dorne plot is fucked up. Why waste time here? Also, Myrcella didn't die a queen...
- The Dothraki army was coming from all sides, like they were homing in on Dany. That feels strange because they shouldn't know she is there.
- I'm fine with jumbling around the Arya plot, still makes sense.
- The walk of shame, they nailed it. They really nailed it. Too bad Robert Strong has a head.
- The Dorne plot is fucked up. Why waste time here? Also, Myrcella didn't die a queen...
I would have probably noticed a young woman riding a dragon.
Stannis or not, they still have to do a battle of Winterfell, or at the very least the battle of the Dreadfort.
Stannis is the rightful king and a pretty important player. Killing him off screen like this and before the books is a pretty big deal. I'm not entirely convinced he's alive, but there's much to suggest he is, and he could still have an important role.
They know what's next for him in the books, after all.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I mean, Ellaria killing Myrcella fits with her motivations - I just thought it was cliched to have Myrcella reconcile with her father just moments before her death. "Hey dad/uncle I'm totes chill with you boning mom/aunt. The heart wants what it wa-ack I'm dying!"
Basileus777
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So who is going to create the new offseason thread? We're well over 20k posts now.
But they are not actually converging on the dragon or his location. They're turning the back of their army to the dragon. I'd expect them to arrive in a line, heading for the dragon.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Steely, probably.
Discotheque
Banned
cersei's walk of shame and...that ending was done very well. the rest was whatever but i think they really adapted those major moments damn nicely.
it's going to feel so weird watching this show in the dark now.
it's going to feel so weird watching this show in the dark now.
He's definitely alive I'm just not sure why. I doubt they need to do a Battle for Winterfell 2.0. Something else will happen.
bishopcruz
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And they just circled her. It was silly.
I just hate that she wasn't with her dragon. Again, they get the main bullet point, Dany meets a buncha Dothraki, and like last week, they miss all the context. Dany should be all Fire and Blood right now, but nope we need her to be a damsel for Jorah and Daario next season.
So that'll be fun.
Of course Myrcella gets her first sweet scene where she's likable right before she dies. Just like Shireen got her first bonding moment with her father before she's burned to death by him. Walking Dead does the same type of thing. GoT writers are sadly on the WD level.
Whenever any character in a show or movie says something that resolves any conflict they have now or in the future, either the show or movie has ended, or the character is going to die.
vas_a_morir
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With Stannis completely defeated I can't imagine the Bolton's letting LF North of Moat Cailin with a sizable force. Even if they sailed to the North it's Winter now so the march to Winterfell would be ruinous.
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