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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6 Offseason Thread
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cartoon_soldier
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That would make my day.
Red Arremer
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Nah, you just need some bad pussy.
Atraveller
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I'd enjoy a good episode if it's good, but I'm not having my hopes up.
Cpt.Underpants
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I hope Ghost rips Olly's throat
I've started to convince myself that season 5 was bad because half of it was taken up by them doing the quickest, easiest thing they could think of to jettison any book material they had set up in the first four seasons but were now uninterested in developing in seasons 6-8, so now season 6 will actually be a story they're interested in telling and will be good. Like, season 5 felt ominous as it was coming in a way the season doesn't. I can't put my finger on why, but it's there, somehow. Anyway, get hype.
bodyofanamerican
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Good point. They wrote season 5 as the next to last season (i.e., before the agreement to do 8), right? Would explain all the bullshit shortcuts they took.
It seems like they shifted from 7 to 8 during the course of writing season 5. They probably knew all the things they were going to cut and figured it would be enough to save them a season, but then even after cutting as aggressively as they could it still didn't work out. And now that they've allowed themselves some extra time, season 6 seems to be doubling back on a lot of cut content to hopefully bring forward some of the elements season 5 was lacking.
I also think it's possible that almost all of the cuts tie into the probably necessary decision to cut Aegon. Like we could get Winds and it'll turn out that Sansa marries Aegon, Stannis marches south and fights with Aegon, and Barristan defects from Dany to Aegon, and then it'll suddenly make sense why all those characters had to be abruptly dropped or radically altered. Whatever the reason, the cutting appears to be largely done now, so that hopefully the plot going forward can be more well reasoned.
Steelyuhas
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The open possibilities for Davos in S6 is something I'm very excited about.
Moff
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I still feel indifferent about both the new season as well as the new book
but the main reason why season 5 was the worst, yet, was because it was based on worst books, yet, the same reason why season 1 and 4 were the best so far.
if things start getting exciting again this season because of the greater arcs I will be pleasently surprised, but I am not getting my hopes up, yet
but the main reason why season 5 was the worst, yet, was because it was based on worst books, yet, the same reason why season 1 and 4 were the best so far.
if things start getting exciting again this season because of the greater arcs I will be pleasently surprised, but I am not getting my hopes up, yet
Oldest Snake
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Funny how despite taking so little from the books and changing so very much, GRRM still manages to be to blame for season 5 being a dud.
GRRM may have slipped on his side, but season 5 was all D&D.
There's no way that some of the plot endings of Season 5, particularly in Meereen, were done with only two more seasons in mind.
Feast/Dance have serious problems, but they're mostly to do with bloat and lack of conclusion. The show actually did a really good job of eliminating those issues. The issues that were there are ones of their own creation for sure.
That probably means he will get a 'shocking' death
I imagine the first scene is Jon Snow's dead body.
The Tower of Joy sequence is
part of Bran's vision, which means it must be part of Bran realizing Jon's parentage. I wonder if Jon will become aware of it this season.
I'm guessing they want to burn the body, kill the direwolf. Davos has orders from Melisandre to protect the body.
Red Arremer
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They also burn them in order to avoid them becoming wights.
bengraven
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I wonder if we'll finally see the undead army reach the Wall this season.
It is known.
It is known.
I wish the Thenns hadn't eaten Olly's mother and father. It would be justice if one of them killed him.
Cornballer
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Oldest Snake
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Olly whips up a special batch of his mum's boiled potatoes and poisons Ramsay & his 20 Good Men.
biosnake20
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Then Olly does 20 good head nods to Alliser.
Damerman
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I kind of hope that whoever it is they have playing Howland in the ToJ sequence rolls up after the Bastardbowl in old man makeup and just drops all the exposition on Jon in episode 10, rather than playing coy with it for another season or two.
Show canon is clear. NO ONE boils 'em like Olly's mum. The plot is doomed to fail because of Olly's shitty taters.
Weren't we saying it was High Sparrow at one point? But based on the footage, the High Sparrow is too old. Though this show hasn't really been consistent on time before, so I don't know.
Oldest Snake
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Useless bastard can't do anything right.
This was a pretty notable theory for the books but it required some pretty severe tinfoil. The High Septon seems too cruel/indifferent to individuals suffering to be Howland Reed.
Damerman
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Isn't howlend reed dead in the show?
Basileus777
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It's a nonsensical theory without any evidence supporting it.
I don't think Jojen or Meera have said he was dead.
Moff
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that's a complete whacko theory, which also says he is septon meribald
Basileus777
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Jojen talks about his father, I can't remember if he mentions his name.
Moff
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possible, we don't know if he is at all important, we have no idea how it will be revealed to westeros that jon is a targaryen or if anyone even cares.
heck, I still have no idea how his parentage could be of even the slightest importance, the targaryens have lost their claim.
Basileus777
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That's not how that works. And in the show the Baratheon line has died out anyway.
Basileus777
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Medieval monarchies don't operate on strict legalism, force of arms and the charisma to convince others of your claims is always the basis for rule, not some strange system of rules that you are applying here. The Targaryens getting their crown usurped doesn't invalidate their claims if they can find the means to enforce them.
Not a Baratheon and he doesn't have a long lease on life anyway, or a particularly commanding control of the 7 Kingdoms at this point.
Napalm_Frank
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Bran mentions him by name at one point.
By the way was it ever established in the show who is commander of gold cloaks after Bronn?
Lactose_Intolerant
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He talks about him crying when he heard about Ned getting executed.
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