even the Horus Heresy series might finish before asoiaf doesHe might finish TWoW, but no way in hell is ADoS coming out within the next 5 years.
I still can't believe it: Both the Star War Prequel AND Sequel trilogies will have finished before ASoIaF does, to say nothing of countless other fantasy series.
I forget, are set photos taken last year considered "Leaks" and therefor discussion about them are not allowed?
If Jon attacks Winterfell, i hope Rickon would be the one who kills Ramsay.
even the Horus Heresy series might finish before asoiaf does
I haven't met a single person who likes it. It got old fast. They gave him extreme and nonsensical amounts of plot armor.
with a walnutHe's going to smash his head like a walnut.
Agreed. I'm not looking forward to those scenes and I have a nagging suspicion they'll be drawn out longer than need be.is going to be such a slog I bet.Super Daario Brothers+Dany
oh yeah, the latest release is number 37, mind you this is just the novels, not counting multiple novellas, short stories, audio dramas etc (although those have by now been mostly collected into anthologies which are part of the main series of novels)God they're still making those? I tuned out after book 5 when it became obvious that GW was gonna stretch that shit out for as long as possible.
Agreed. I'm not looking forward to those scenes and I have a nagging suspicion they'll be drawn out longer than need be.
I kinda wonder, what dany is going to do about the rampant slavery among the Dothraki, will she prohibit it among them too? will they follow someone who abolishes slavery? will she fight them over it?I thought the whole point of Dany being with the Dothraki was to make a heroic return to free Meereen from a siege with an army of horsemen on her back. Without the siege of Meereen, it makes the whole plotline of her being away from the city rather useless. Just like Quarth. -_-
Umber is also sort of an Oathbreaker right?
Well in the episode he is technically the only oath breaker.
The books will have a lot cooler stuff happen and will ultimately be the superior version by lightyears.
You know, there's a huge upside to the show ditching entire major characters and absolutely butchering plotlines so they end post-haste.
The books will have a lot cooler stuff happen and will ultimately be the superior version by lightyears.
Did they really have Pycelle shit himself? Really? Did they really have that Saturday morning child's cartoon toilet humour in this show?
That is even worse than bad pussy.
Assuming they get finished, you mean. I think that's underneath a lot of the disappointment for many of us. This may be the only look at some of these events that we get.
Problem is said "Superior" version won't be complete in at least a decade, if not longer, if not EVER.
As long as he maintains his quality I'm ok with this. If he can't finish it, or dies, the work will be passed off to someone else with his framework and notes to finish.
I hope it's not allowed. Was something big just leaked? I saw a big post on a another forum that I hurried up and clicked X on.
Dany goes West, Jon comes South, everyone hugs it out and fights the WW at the end. That's about all you can bank on both things doing.Since it's been a few years since I last read them, I looked up what happened in A Feast for Crows and A Dance with Dragons, and holy shit, they really diverged a huge deal in the show, didn't they?
Makes me wonder how much of the stuff happening in these last three episodes is even going to happen in the next book. I could see there being some really huge plot differences by the time both the show and books are all wrapped up.
He's specifically stated that if he dies no other author is allowed to finish it, and all his notes and outlines are to be destroyed upon his death.
"Screwing over" hmm.
Do you maybe think that that kind of entitlement is part of the thing that makes him wary?
- Watchers with a batch of photos from Ep 4 (please spoiler tag discussion)
I know D&D were desperate to replace Joffery when he kicked the bucket, but I think the more serious worry should be Cercei. Headey makes scenes great even if the writing isn't. I know her death is coming soon but it's going to really suck.
I fail to see how some form of closure to fans who have investing so much in the series if a worst case scenario should occur is anything close to entitlement.
As long as he maintains his quality I'm ok with this. If he can't finish it, or dies, the work will be passed off to someone else with his framework and notes to finish.
If he ends up finishing it himself, he reconsiders a bunch of stuff while he's writing - so the end product of the books will be more divergent from the show as more time goes on.
Depending on how bad the show gets towards the end, more time spent writing will be better for fans.
Does anyone else ever wonder if GRRM is perhaps using the show as a testing ground for certain plot developments? Like what if Sansa originally got raped in TWOW, under different circumstances obviously, but when he saw the massive backlash to the rape on the show, he changed the way it happened or maybe excised it all together from the book? /conspiracytheorypositingthatgrrmiswaitinguntilthetvshowisovertofinishthebooks
I assume he's just saying that because he's pissed that people keep reminding him he's a fat old man who could bite it at any minute. I just can't imagine anyone screwing over his fans that have brought him so much fame and money that badly.
You just used the word "investment". Because you expect a return. You feel like it will be an injustice if your investment doesn't yield a return? You feel... entitled to a return on that "investment"? You think he owes you "closure"?
Staring with the 4th book (and IMO contributing to the massive decline in quality) GRRM no longer allows his editors to make comments or suggestions for improvements on his drafts when he submits them. I can fully believe that the man does not want anyone else to touch his story if he dies before finishing, regardless of fanboy hate mail. To be fair, lots of creators become attached to their works in such a way that they don't want anyone else to work on them or even critique them (George Lucas and Anne Rice come to mind).
The man needs to let go of HIS entitlement. His pride is probably a more suitable word. I can't believe he'd not pass along the work to someone he trusts to finish for an invested fan base that gave him the spotlight.
She didn't. Martin admitted as much in an interview. Though I don't remember with who
Sansa as Alayne Stone had to seduce Harry someone who was the chosen heir to the Vale as chosen by the lords of that region after they were married into fighting Ramsey for winter fell
However D and D decided to combine Sansa and Jeyne Poole for plot convenience, and unfortunately chose that Sansa would be raped over having Sansa go all Dominatrix on RamseyWhich would have been a very different direction to take things