hahaha wow thats amazing
If there's one thing this show has hammered home week after week, it's never to get your hopes up. Always expect it to take the path of least resistence. If you think there's a chance of something happening which might be interesting, or out of left field, or otherwise isn't completely predictible, it wont.
I'd love to have my mind changed but to me, the series is increasingly feeling like D&D just want it done with as soon as possible.
Was Winterfell burned in the show? I don't remember that happening and it looks like it's in pretty good shape. I imagine the castle would be harder to protect in the books considering how it's falling apart, but maybe Roose is right and they could have hidden behind its walls in the show.
It was burned. In the scenes where Roose was talking to Littlefinger there seemed to be a lot of fortifying and repair going on also.
It was burned. In the scenes where Roose was talking to Littlefinger there seemed to be a lot of fortifying and repair going on also.
And I thought this meme was dead. Fucking amazing lol
I really hope we're not just grasping straws in an attempt to salvage some sort of intelligence in the Winterfell plot. The Umbers being the heads of the GNC would be amazing and so would Osha being the Ghost of Winterfell but I feel that's too complicated for the show writers and they just want to end the Rickon plot somehow and want to build up Ramsay even more.There's a pretty good post over on Reddit about all the Umber Bolton non-sense. Some good points made. My favorites are
1) Ramsay wants to meet Stannis in the field outside Winterfell. Roose says that's a terrible idea because Winterfell is so defensible. Umbers are luring out the Boltons.
2) Why give Osha to the Boltons? The Umbers hate Wildlings. Once they decided to turn, they would've just executed her. Osha is a badass. Could easily be taking over the Ghost of Winterfell.
3) There are "for scale" items on the desk where the head is placed to show how small the head is.
I can't believe people still say shit like that. It's such a stupid thing to suggest. Do you not realize how annoying and insensitive it is? It's not about pride or anything. People who keep asking an author "HEY DO YOU HAVE PLANS FOR YOUR BOOKS IF YOU HAPPENED TO DIE TOMORROW? YOU'RE OLD AND DON'T LOOK TOO HEALTHY..." are like family members who would ask an elderly family member "HEY HAVE YOU FINALIZED YOUR WILL YET? HURRR? HAVE YOU???"
I really hope we're not just grasping straws in an attempt to salvage some sort of intelligence in the Winterfell plot. The Umbers being the heads of the GNC would be amazing and so would Osha being the Ghost of Winterfell but I feel that's too complicated for the show writers and they just want to end the Rickon plot somehow and want to build up Ramsay even more.
Has the show become more predictable this season? Or is it just because we're reaching the final stories? We better get at least a couple big surprised, something that isn't painfully obvious.
It feels like a ton of isolated little narratives rather than small streams that join into a larger river.
Arya and Tyrion/Dany stories are completely stagnant. And there isn't really anything I can think of on the latter that can be of any real interest in moving the characters or overall plots foreward for quite a while. She is stuck in the same boring situation for a long ass time and even if they go for some ''shock'' moment like killing off Jorah or something it wouldn't change the overall narrative in any meaningful way in of itself, just another corpse in the pile.
I agree but that's how AFFC and ADWD were to be honest.
Truer words have never been spoken.Well see, the first mistake here is thinking for more than 5 seconds about plot logic. That's already at least 5 seconds longer than D&D have thought about it.
Truer words have never been spoken.
D&D are talentless hacks!
Am I doing it right?
On the subject of predictability I feel it's just a case of things starting to come to a close. It's a shame but it's one of the reasons this season feels unexciting to me.
I just wish they gave more credit it to the viewer. Season 2 and 3 was perfection with that. Than they made Season 4 which casualized the shit out of it...which really only had Yara's dongs to complain about. If Season 4 didn't have some of the biggest moments of the series that were properly made...than we wouldn't have what happened in Seasons 5 and 6. Plus them getting another year fucked them over, which is why I'm wondering why they didn't negotiate more with HBO before it happened. I like what we have now, but there's a very clear instance where it went from 'amazing' to just 'good'.
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Arya and Tyrion/Dany stories are completely stagnant. And there isn't really anything I can think of on the latter that can be of any real interest in moving the characters or overall plots foreward for quite a while.
Yes you are.D&D are talentless hacks!
Am I doing it right?
Rewatched the latest episode and was mesmerised by Tyrion's ever changing volume of wine when they're sat at the table. It's like the continuity folks have just gone, "fuck it", and absconded off to Dorne.
Didn't they foreshadow that she's at the place where is decided what the Dothraki attack? Drogon comes back, she takes over the place, decides to attack westeros.
Could be, even if not really feasible since her boats are gone. Otherwise there isn't much going on there, right.
But she already had an army in Meereen. There needs to be something there that would warrant her being taken away or we're just spinning our wheels.
If everyone's funding attacks on Meereen, then surely a siege will happen.
Dany has to stop the attack and get the hell out of Essos.
Sure, complain about the Mereen plot in the show.
But it sucks in the books too. Dany is easily the worst part of ADWD. Coma inducing, really.
Yeah...8,000 is nothing in the long run. If we go back to numbers, the Lannisters had more than them, the Tyrell's, and the Eyerie and what's ever left of the Ironborn and the North.She already had 8,000 unsullied and 3 dragons.
She already had 8,000 unsullied and 3 dragons.
I just think there has to be a reason other than getting a larger angry.
I can't excuse what D&D have done with Tyrion so far in Mereen.Yeah, but how do you cut out all the boring stuff and still end up with Tyrion in a room talking to Missandei and Grey Worm?
Like...imagine one of those meetings where they have all the pictures and diagrams of the story they want to tell. They cross out one thing, then another, and say "Tyrion asks Grey Worm to have a conversation with him. Grey Worm says he only talks when he's on patrol. Varys interrogates that woman from last season and comes up with 'Astapor, Yunkai, and Volantis are funding the harpies.' Riveting stuff, guys. I'm so glad we got rid of Barristan."
The Dothraki are notorious for mistreating women and keeping lesser tribes as slaves, aren't they? They're sort of anti-Dany in terms of values.
I agree in essence, but that's a bad analogy. Inheritance *is* a legal entitlement, unless someone makes specific plans to the contrary. Lots of people die without wills and leave a mess for their family to deal with. Don't go in "hurring", but people should try to more be comfortable talking to their family about estate planning.
I'm sorry, should I further delve into the logic of Oberyn's paramour and daughters deciding that the best way for getting revenge for his death was by killing his entire living family?Great contributions to the thread, very insightful.
Maybe she has to leave the unsullied in Meereen - puh, I don't know. If she won't take over there, she's just away for Tyrion to manage a city... AgainBut she already had an army in Meereen. There needs to be something there that would warrant her being taken away or we're just spinning our wheels.