Anton Sugar
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Yeah she killed her introduction. Few people give Varys the shakes.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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Yeah she killed her introduction. Few people give Varys the shakes.
Well, somebody's finger was in that pie.
Yeah I feel like she was introduced because they needed Meereen scenes and had nothing. I'm not sure if anything is ever going to come of her?
Jack Scofield
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How much of this story do you think is going to be the same in the books? I'm talking overall things, not the details. Will Stannis die? Will Cersei do the wildfire trick in the books? Will Dany lead the Dothraki again?
I can't see this very well on my phone. What am I looking for?
It's pretty much an actual Frey Pie.
I can't see this very well on my phone. What am I looking for?
Finger + finger nail in the pie in the middleish area.
Red Arremer
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There's a thumb sticking out of it.
To get a better phone.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Alan Sepinwall made a great point in his review. The music in the first twenty minutes sounded like something out of The Leftovers.
Like a funeral.
Like a funeral.
Yep that is exactly it. It was structured just like a major scene from the Leftovers. Was pretty cool.
I know nothing is as satisfying as seeing Walder die.
But wouldn't it be cool if several pies were served to Walder Frey and the guests started discovering parts of Black Walder and Lothar.
Then Walder, who has already eaten a slice or two, demands to know who baked the pies.
You see a girl elsewhere, and she removes the mask to reveal Arya.
But wouldn't it be cool if several pies were served to Walder Frey and the guests started discovering parts of Black Walder and Lothar.
Then Walder, who has already eaten a slice or two, demands to know who baked the pies.
You see a girl elsewhere, and she removes the mask to reveal Arya.
Hasphat'sAnts
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Definitely reminded me of the departure scene in the first season of The Leftovers. When you knew it was gonna happen and it just builds and builds and builds.
I don't think I've felt worse for a three characters than I felt for Margaery, Loras, and Mace.
Totally blameless in this whole situation.
It would have felt like overkill in a poorly handled scene, but they actually pulled off a Red Wedding level massacre completely off book. Amazing.
thesurfshop19
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The only true innocent, was lovely old Mace Tyrell. The amount of singing talent in the show has taken a brutal hit.
You know, Jaime did say all the sparrows would die before they let Margery Tyrell walk down the street...He was right.
I don't think we ever got that viewpoint (of shadows on the wall).
Wonder if they'd actually throw that in to imply a scene from next season ;P
vainglorious
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Was thinking about it last night after the episode ended, and didn't think we ever saw that viewpoint of the shadows on the wall. Kind of odd for a teaser trailer to have it and then nothing in the show.
So give me a kiss by the Long Canal
And give me two kisses in Salty Town
For we’re going to die tomorrow
The bareheaded beggar, the king with his crown…
Holy fuck.
Operations
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Wut? She was to deliver Cersei to the High Sparrow. Who do you think influenced Tommen to drop the trial by combat clause? A manipulative bitch until her death. Hardly blameless.
On a different note, is it a foregone conclusion now that Stannis will also die in TWOW?
But it really makes no sense to think that her plan was to have this kid lure Lancel - specifically Lancel - down to the catacombs, stab him near the wildfire stash so he collapses just in view of the candles, but too far to be able to stop them from igniting the wildfire. It just doesn't make sense for anyone to plan that.
Why did he follow the kid down there to begin with? What was the kid doing? As far as I could tell he was just... there. Just running down the steps, in an innocent kid sorta way. He didn't even leave a flaming back of shit on steps of the Sept or anything.
It was an amazing episode - the best in the series, probably - but this part makes no sense. I'm okay with it, because it allowed for that amazing sequence to play out the way it did. The cutting between Lancel futilely trying to reach the candles in time, and Marg and Co. up in the Sept slowing realizes something is seriously wrong. It was perfect! I just feel like they could have justified Lancel's excursion into the catacombs a bit better. He was sent to the Red Keep to retrieve the Queen Mother, why would he take a detour to chase a kid into a building and underground? Why would he detour for anything at that moment?
I'd say 50 % of the big things are true.
Will Stannis die? 50-50.
Will Dany lead the Dothraki? Definitely. It's been foreshadowed at the HOTU.
Will Cersei pull the wildfire trick? Most likely not. The story is angling to give Aegon more prominence and that means kicking Cersei out of KL.
Will Jon become king in the north? Yep. GRRM set the groundwork for that since book one.
Is Dorne going to ally with Daenerys? No.
Will the SS kills Doran? No.
Are Jon and Ramsay headed to a climatic final battle of good versus evil? No.
Will Cersei become the Queen of Westeros? No. She has no claim to it. She might become Queen of the Westerlands though.
Are Theon and Yara going to Meereen? No.
Is Marge going to die? Yep. I'm pretty sure she loses her trial in the books.
So she was to deliver an evil power hungry woman to the High Sparrow and influenced Tommen to drop trial by combat so evil people couldn't use it to their advantage to get out of wrongdoings anymore?
What a horrible, manipulative bitch
The faces on Margaery and The High Sparrow moments before the explosion was immense. My heart stopped.
I don't think any of this actually happened on screen. Yes, I'm sure of it.
Margaery played the game, but did so in a very "I'm not trying to kill you." way.
Operations
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But it does happen on screen. Margarery cites a deal with the Sparrow when she argues that Loras should be freed. HS says the deal is to get the Queen Mother on trial.
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Doesn't mean it stayed there. Or why Dany needs a powered up sword when Jon is the hero of prophecy.
biosnake20
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I knew i recognized the actress that played Lyanna from something, she was in The Fall. Her name is Aisling Franciosi.
Kabuki Waq
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I hope next season is not all about Sansa betraying Jon.
should of played dany instead
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So, I notice in the AV club review they make a point that the King in the North scene was heavily framed around Jon having Ned's blood.
But is it really going to matter much if he doesn't? North went to war when Lyanna was kidnapped. By all accounts she was beloved by the North. Am I being silly for thinking the North won't care if it's revealed to them that he's Lyanna's son?
But is it really going to matter much if he doesn't? North went to war when Lyanna was kidnapped. By all accounts she was beloved by the North. Am I being silly for thinking the North won't care if it's revealed to them that he's Lyanna's son?
I think his father being a Targaryen might be the more pressing issue.
Seductivpancakes
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I think Bran is the only person who knows of Jon's true parentage. Maybe he'll keep it a secret?
No. GRRM included Stannis in the list of people that might not die in books or if they did might die differently.
Anton Sugar
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I believe the word you're looking for is "contrived".
Which it was. A scheme that worked out "perfectly" just for drama. Overall, the scene was still fantastic and I don't think it's the biggest flaw of the episode (Aryas scene, which deserved a much better arc this season that just wasn't there).
Dash_Riprock
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I'm thinking that the moment his Targaryan ancestry is learned several factions will push for him to claim the throne instead of Dany, possibly leading to a second Dance of the Dragons.
Well yeah. Lyanna wasn't really beloved in the North. I'm sure she had her friends but that's overselling it.
And the North went to war as a result of killing their Lord Paranound Rickard, killing his heir, Brandon, kidnapping Lyanna and the Mad King ordering Ned Stark's death.
The war never started at ,Lyanna's kidnapping. It started when Jon Arryn declared war against the Mad King to protect Robert and Ned.
Seductivpancakes
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Dany is gonna marry Jon cause he's King of the North and he'll unite the north again with the rest of Westeros. Boom. Incest.
Why do that when he could just marry Daenerys?
It's his destiny. He can either going to bang his aunt or the cousin he previously thought was his sister.
A true Targ would bone both.
Admiral Woofington
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Now that the season is over who else kind of laughs at Rickon being brought back for two short scenes in this entire season, only to kill him. What the fuck was the point of him lmao.
Yep. Hilarious. Such a big deal made out of him for nothing.
Seductivpancakes
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Yea I really disliked that about episode 9.
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