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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO
- Thread starter Cornballer
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They're rich. Fuck with them and they'll hire/fund armies/mercenaries to take you out.
If you don't pay they either hire mercenaries to defeat you or they straight-up fund your enemies. They don't care about land, they have money.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Because they don't want to, they are a bank.
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
Why would they? Their primary (only) concern is profit and financial gain. Ruling conquered lands is expensive and risky.
If all you care about is money, why bother with the headache of actually ruling over people?
Because Braavos is a free state founded by ex-slaves of Valyria. It is deeply ingrained in their culture that all men are free and not to be conquered. The Iron Bank are businessmen, not warlords.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
Am I mis-remembering or is it implied that the Iron Bank have ties to the Faceless Men (by virtue of both being Braavosi if nothing else)?
I remeber something like this as well, can't verify it though.
I'm sure at the very least they've made use of the Faceless Men's services to deal with people who won't pay their debts before.
johancruijff
Banned
Wait a sec, rickon saves Jaime's ass in the last scene? i thought it was bronn
hemo memo
Member
Hes Bronn definitely. But how Jamie not drown with that heavy shield is something I want to see next episode.
ClosingADoor
Member
He is still conscious. And Bronn is in the water also. So they just got to get the armor off quickly and swim up. In real life that would be a bit hard I guess, but this is tv.
chicken_pasta
Banned
Again, they have money. Enough to hire every sellsword army the other side of the narrow sea, and quite likely some faceless men too.
Ocarina_117
Banned
The Iron Bank being involved with slavery seems odd to me. Aren't they far, far away from slavers bay? They were also founded by runaway slaves.
With regards to them being feared, I believe they have ties with the faceless men. Show faceless men seem to be a non-factor, they're pretty cool people though.
With regards to them being feared, I believe they have ties with the faceless men. Show faceless men seem to be a non-factor, they're pretty cool people though.
BlackSalad
Member
I think that last episode deserves its own thread in itself.
A title something vague, like "best single episode of a TV series"
Honestly, I cannot think of anything better but I've been invested in the show and the books so I have bias Even still, the spectacle was so amazing and technically well done, even a non-viewer should be able to appreciate it. This rivals the "not penny's boat", but its so much better.
Someone make the thread, I won't, I don't have the pull and am probably ignored (seems like it)
People who haven't invested themselves in GoT yet are in for a treat of binge watching, I wish I could watch the show from beginning to end within a few weeks rather than like 6 years.
A title something vague, like "best single episode of a TV series"
Honestly, I cannot think of anything better but I've been invested in the show and the books so I have bias Even still, the spectacle was so amazing and technically well done, even a non-viewer should be able to appreciate it. This rivals the "not penny's boat", but its so much better.
Someone make the thread, I won't, I don't have the pull and am probably ignored (seems like it)
People who haven't invested themselves in GoT yet are in for a treat of binge watching, I wish I could watch the show from beginning to end within a few weeks rather than like 6 years.
Spooky Scary Skeleton
Member
Qyburn is the most powerful character in this show.
Brought back almost dead Gregor as braindead zombie just as powerful or possibly even more, committed the biggest terrorist act in the entire show, and his R&D created an anti-dragon missile and now in process of mass producing them.
This guy is pushing meta like none other.
Ocarina_117
Banned
From Game of Thrones itself there were better episodes in the first few seasons, Hardhome, the season finale of season 6 etc. The first half of last nights episode was a bit naff, lets be honest. Super convenient cave convincing Dany of the white walkers, Arya bullshit, littlefinger continuing to be an idiot.
From other series there are multiple GOAT tier episodes in Person of Interest, the last 3 episodes of Breaking Bad. People need to chill with the hyperbole.
When talking about the 'best ever' whatever we need to wait a while to see how the episode holds up in the context of the show and on repeat viewings.
il Diavolo
Banned
il Diavolo
Banned
I don't want to ever see him not in that armor.
Haha, Dickon the goomba.
Hopefully Dany doesn't jump on his head.
In which way?
No she's going to jump on Jons head, don't want to upset the shippers..
TERRORIFFIC
Member
I took it a little differently. The iron bank invests in all kinds of industries... Some of those industries thrive thanks to slave labor. If slavery is abolished any industry that relies on that labor pool is gonna take a huge hit.
Cesare Borgia
Banned
The level at which the show has surpassed the books (narrative wise) is staggering, and like you said a testament to his procrastination. Especially when you consider he basically had a 4-5 book lead when the show started. This is a fuck up of colossal magnitude and I have zero sympathy for him. Recognizing your limits, flaws, etc is essential to being a professional adult. Martin is a slow writer, but the bigger issue has always been his time management. He cut down his traveling and instead stacked his schedule with various side projects that ate up his time just as much, if not more, than the traveling. And here we are, with no end in sight.
Even worse when you consider at least 250 MS pages of Winds were moved from Dance, meaning he'll have less pages to truly advance the plot where it needs to be. I have zero hope.
CopperPuppy
Member
It has been theorized by fans for years and hinted here and there. TWOIAF, for instance, makes reference to rumors that the Iron Bank sends "assassins" after debtors in cannot depose or otherwise topple. This likely refers to Faceless Men.
The Artisan
Member
Randyl does mention the scare of an ambush, but I expected that the gold would not make it bad to King's Landing. Since it didn't, Cersei has little to be upset about.
She could care less if a number of her men are burned alive as long as she has what she wants and needs.
SodiumBenzoate
Member
I mean at the very least they have the money to hire them (and proximity).
Human Trashcan
Banned
lol no. It's not even the best GoT episode. It was average at best until the battle.
The Artisan
Member
What even is "average" at this point then?
Winterfell was great, I still think that "chaos is a ladder" was the highlight of the episode.
The Artisan
Member
I liked Jon & Theon's reunion. I hope things get better between them.
StopMakingSense
Member
What happens if TWoW releases before next season?
Stop laughing.
Stop laughing.
Human Trashcan
Banned
Probably very little given the nature of production schedules and how far afield they've gotten already
Absolutely nothing. HBO is probably in the final stages of pre-production for the next season right now.
And even if they could change some stuff up based on the sixth book, they probably wouldn't be able to given the huge amount of divergences that happened in the past three seasons.
Albino_Yeti
Member
Seen some comments around the internet saying this battle was the best fantasy battle ever put on screen, even better than Pelennor Fields.
Now while I love GOT, some people need to calm down lmao. Nothing tops the charge of the Rohirrim.
Now while I love GOT, some people need to calm down lmao. Nothing tops the charge of the Rohirrim.
Winds probably needed to release during season 4 to really impact the story in a significant way. Now even if it got finished this year they probably wouldn't even read it before writing is done on season 8. Even if he had finished it a year or two ago, the most you really would've seen was some imagery or dialog pulled from it and used for completely different scenes, same as they've pulled some bits from sample chapters here and there.
He was afraid all his troops would think he throws like a girl if they saw him throw with his off hand.
StopMakingSense
Member
I was thinking more about separating book talk out from non-book talk. Having two threads would make that a lot neater.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
thanks >_>
that actually wasn't originally me, I just edited parts of 'John is the demons' meme.
Ocarina_117
Banned
You speak the truth.
Should Martin ever finish the books I'm sure he'll deliver a series for the ages, despite the meanderings of AFFC and ADWDs. Though people are cautious about TWoW (rightly so), even given the excellent preview chapters, I feel he'll deliver something amazing.
Sadly it won't be adapted for the big screen.
badcrumble
Member
I mean, even in Lord of the Rings, Helm's Deep is generally much better filmed than Pelennor Fields - the film does a good job of laying out the geography of the place and why it matters, such that the viewer can always tell what's happening and why. Pelennor Fields was suitably epic but really just consisted of each side having tide-turning reinforcements show up without nearly as much communication of strategy to the viewer.
I don't know, on one side yes I agree with you, on the other, fire breathing dragons, man.
But being more serious the only edge GoT has is that the battles are more even and people are divided into who to root for, LoTR is very simple in it's good vs evil, but in all other aspects LoTR wins.
Jamie's or Dany's?
Jaime was three times in the line of dragon fire, he should be ashes, I get surviving one but three?
The Illiterati
Member
I like that this CGI battle was over some wagons filled with gold, in the middle of nowhere, no one of significance died and nothing of significance happened. But other than that, it had a really COOL CGI DRAGON GAME OF THRONES IS THE BEST SHOW EVER I CANT WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK WAIT WHAT WHATS THAT SHINY THING OVER THERE
Psychoward
Banned
it's uh, not even the best episode of the series