Upgrade to Windows 10?

I don't get what people are doing if they are constantly getting UAC notices. I have kept it on the second highest settings in W8 and now in W10, and the only times it pops up is when I am installing something or running a program as administrator - and those are two things I really want to be noticed about.
 
A friend of mine has huge problems with Windows 10. He has a regular BIOS Notebook from 2011 with Windows 7, he upgraded to Windows 10, until then everything was fine and Windows 10 was activated. However he needs a clean install so my friend then performed a clean reset which failed, so he did a ISO clean install. Now he can't activate Windows 10 with his key anymore (key is blocked). Can you help him?
 
Did the upgrade yesterday and my PC can't connect to network.
Went back to 8.1 and connected just fine.
Today tried 10 again, and can't connect to network.
Tried update driver and it says up to date. Is my wireless card not compatible with Win 10? It's a Realtek 8812AE. Google ain't help in much :/
 
master0fdeception said:
I still haven't received the update. This is all I get....

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WHERE DID YOU GET THAT WALLPAPER I WANT IT :(
 
OmegaDL50 said:
I believe it should be mentioned for those who disable UAC because they think it's a nag / annoyance and don't want to deal with the prompts and think it's just to make the user experience more complicated. Contrary the alternative becoming an even bigger annoyance when one unscrupulous program installs itself unto your computer because you disabled elevation requirements to run something and basically gives itself administrative privileges. Things like root kits that install themselves at lowest levels of an OS kernel.

Even on exploits that your antivirus software won't detect that UAC will because it's trying to run at a elevated level and needs those privileges to execute.

There are some cases such as malicious Active X or Java Applets that basically run their code through your web browser, UAC will basically pop up during this times with it's permission prompt "Yo someone is trying to run something on your PC are you sure you want this to happen?"

More often then not people with UAC disabled won't get this warning, and the malicious program will just assume it has administrative rights and install itself and then well...

I've had a lot of fun with this in College when we used Virtual Machines and tried to do "network attacks" on these virtual machines some of them running Win 7 and Server 2008, normally the VPN tunnel was security enough, but our experiment with machines with the UAC disabled gave a obvious backdoor.
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Ive not had Chrome not tell me that some Java applet is trying to run, and even if it hasnt, in the 3 years ive been running machines like this ive had exactly 0 problems.

These backdoors that were created, did they need to be facilitated by Internet Explorer?

And again, if its so obvious, how have I had no issues whatsoever on my 7 machines running like this?

Please elaborate on the types of attacks you simulated in VMs. 99% of the time its the user who has the last "say" in something that allows malicious files to be installed to the machine.

The only scenario i can think of when UAC may save a general user is that they launch a trusted program, which then installs a malicious file, that malicious file is then executed by the trusted program, here UAC will notify the user that some random exe is executing, and that would be the last line of defense for the user. For me, thats not really something im concerned with, i can quite easily tell when there is something not right with a system.
 
*ahem* sudden begging outbursts aside, I was due for a format and reinstall anyway so why not try out W10? If it goes to pot I can always go back to W7.

...looks nice so far, definitely going to have to get startisback though, but waitaminit, Minecraft? Already have Minecraft but let's test this one out.
















What is this shit.
 
KupoNut said:
Edge is okay, but still feels very premature compared to Chrome. Not going to use it much until it gets extension support/adblocker
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Yeah, won't use it until it has extension support. I dropped chrome a while ago though. Has become a resource hog. FireFox is better than Chrome once again. Will be using it for the time being.
 
LilJoka said:
Clean install isnt going to fix it, the permissions are inherited from the drive by the OS, the OS is not forcing permissions on it. I had many problems with migrating my data drives from 7 to 8, an on 10 its better but only because i kept the same computer login names. When the login names change its messes up, atleast in 8.1 it did. Since the permission system hasnt changed in 10, its probably the same thing.
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Fair enough, but does anyone know a way to fix this? It worked perfectly on Windows 7.

The only other possible solution I could think of right now is to get everything off of that drive and do a complete format...and I don't even know if that'd work.
 
Azure Phoenix said:
It's stuck, I had that issue many, many times. Turn off Windows updates entirely, disconnect from the internet and then delete the entire hidden Windows BT folder and all files in that Download folder. After that reboot, turn automatic updates back on and then reconnect to the internet. Depending on how it got stuck you could probably skip some steps, but I had issues where if I just deleted the files and restarted the download it'd get stuck again, having a clean reboot with no files and no attempts from Windows to start the update again fixed it.
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Thanks. I'll give this a shot.
 
Vlaphor said:
Fair enough, but does anyone know a way to fix this? It worked perfectly on Windows 7.

The only other possible solution I could think of right now is to get everything off of that drive and do a complete format...and I don't even know if that'd work.
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That will work.

Try this, enter the root of the H drive, then right click blank space - properties, security tab, edit, add user, add yourself as a new user and give full access. And make sure all the other users have Full Control ticked too.

I had this exact problem when i first installed Windows 8 too. Jus cant remember how i solved it, that PC did end up reverted to 7 as i had enough of 8 after a short while.
 
blly155 said:
10 is taking longer to boot up for me. I get a black screen (can still see my mouse cursor) after the blue Windows logo. This lasts maybe 10-15 seconds. Logging in feels longer and once I'm in the computer is really sluggish for a couple minutes.

8.1 just feel much faster and smoother.

Think I'm gonna use this as an excuse to finally get an SSD and do a clean install.
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Do you have NVIDIA geforce installed? Disable NVIDIA streaming services in services.msc
 
What's the story on nVidia drivers? Are they supposed to install autoamtically? I'm stuck on 1024x768, and it doesn't detect my second monitor either. Looks like ass. Am I supposed to run GeForce experience, or is this supposed to be automatic through Windows Update?
 
Shiina said:
Opening the Volume Mixer and lowering the System Sounds slider does nothing for you?

And try switching the default language around a bit but end it on Fin. I had that problem on W8.1 already and now on 10 and this fixed it.
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Oddly enough, no. Even if I turn it all the way down AND mute it, I still get to hear all the plings and clings and shit.

jediyoshi said:
Right click the volume icon in the system tray -> Sounds

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Thanks, this seemed to have worked, though!

e: Also I love the dark theme, just wish it made the file explorer darker too
 
LilJoka said:
That will work.

Try this, enter the root of the H drive, then right click blank space - properties, security tab, edit, add user, add yourself as a new user and give full access. And make sure all the other users have Full Control ticked too.

I had this exact problem when i first installed Windows 8 too. Jus cant remember how i solved it, that PC did end up reverted to 7 as i had enough of 8 after a short while.
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H: drive has the same access rights as the other drives, but I will go ahead and do the format thing. Will probably take awhile. Thanks.
 
cpp_is_king said:
What's the story on nVidia drivers? Are they supposed to install autoamtically? I'm stuck on 1024x768, and it doesn't detect my second monitor either. Looks like ass. Am I supposed to run GeForce experience, or is this supposed to be automatic through Windows Update?
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Did mine through windows update. Working fine. I have a 970.
 
Ha, I had to roll back my Asus laptop and a friggin Surface Pro 2- both win 10 updates blew out network drivers. Awesome. Especially on their own product.
 
jim2point0 said:
Pffft. Clearly you were doing it wrong :P

Maybe you'd need to do a DDU clean + fresh driver install.

When windows automatically updated my drivers last time, DSR flat out didn't work at all. I could select the factors, but the resolutions were never selectable in-game or in windows.

My new monitor doesn't really like custom resolutions all that much so DSR really is quite nice. Especially when you have 2 980TIs in SLI and a 60hz refresh rate isn't going to push them at all at 3440x1440. Though I do miss the flexibility of custom resolutions.
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I'm also using my tv and not a monitor. Try to go above 1440p using the old method just resulted in a black screen.
 
Vlaphor said:
Fair enough, but does anyone know a way to fix this? It worked perfectly on Windows 7.

The only other possible solution I could think of right now is to get everything off of that drive and do a complete format...and I don't even know if that'd work.
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I installed 10 on a new SSD and left my old 7 HDD in there as a data drive. I could not access the old 7 drive due to permissions issues. It would just say "access denied". I can tell you what I did and it worked but I am doing this from memory as I'm at work now.

What you have to do is:

1) Take ownership of the drive (right-click -> Security -> Advanced -> Owner -> Add yourself) and be sure to check the box to apply to all underlying files and containers. Windows 10 will not recognize the current owner and will have to reset the owner to the current user. This will take a lot of time depending on the speed of the drive and how many files there are as it will have to "touch" each file.

2) Go back to security and assign the SYSTEM, Administrators, and Authenticated Users user groups full control of the drive. Apply. This will again take a long time.

After doing this I could access all files on the drive. Bear in mind that if, like me, you had an old Windows install on the drive, it would probably not work any more if you did this as all the permissions would be borked when you tried to boot back into it. But in my case I was never going back to 7 on that machine anyway so no big loss.

Muntu said:
Oddly enough, no. Even if I turn it all the way down AND mute it, I still get to hear all the plings and clings and shit.
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Are you using digital or analog out? Sometimes digital out relies on the speakers or receiver to adjust volume.

Sickbean said:
Started the upgrade, PC restarted and now I've got no video output. This is via hdmi from my GPU.
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What kind of card? I had an issue with Windows update trying to install an older NVIDIA driver over my more recent one that I had installed directly from the NVIDIA website. If it was me I'd try switching to VGA output if possible.

cpp_is_king said:
What's the story on nVidia drivers? Are they supposed to install autoamtically? I'm stuck on 1024x768, and it doesn't detect my second monitor either. Looks like ass. Am I supposed to run GeForce experience, or is this supposed to be automatic through Windows Update?
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Windows Update will install drivers but they are old. Go to NVIDIA's website and download the most recent Win10 driver from there.
 
ldcommando said:
Did mine through windows update. Working fine. I have a 970.
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Weird, Windows Update doesn't show anything for me. I think I have an older card though, 680 or something. I'm doing GeForce Experience right now, I'll see if it works. Do you have multiple monitors? Seems like Windows is supposed to detect the second monitor regardless of my video driver, because monitors have their own drivers. So idk what to do about that, maybe visit the website of the monitor manufacturer and see if there are new drivers? I'll see what happens after the video driver is finished I guess.
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
I installed 10 on a new SSD and left my old 7 HDD in there as a data drive. I could not access the old 7 drive due to permissions issues. It would just say "access denied". I can tell you what I did and it worked but I am doing this from memory as I'm at work now.

What you have to do is:

1) Take ownership of the drive and all underlying files and containers. Windows 10 will not recognize the current owner and will have to reset the owner to the current user. This will take a lot of time depending on the speed of the drive and how many files there are as it will have to "touch" each file.

2) Go back to security and assign the SYSTEM, Administrators, and Authenticated Users user groups full control of the drive. Apply. This will again take a long time.

After doing this I could access all files on the drive. Bear in mind that if, like me, you had an old Windows install on the drive, it would probably not work any more if you did this as all the permissions would be borked when you tried to boot back into it. But in my case I was never going back to 7 on that machine anyway so no big loss.
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Yeah this what i did too, but i too remember that i was trying to create a text document in the root of the drive but permission denied =/
 
Hi all, I'm wondering if I install W10 on my old laptop, will the graphics card work in compatibility mode? the card is an old Radeon Mobility HD 4000 series.
 
Loving the new interface, the new browser is great, love the reading list.

Only complaint, which is quite small, is that the web-browser version of WhatsApp isn't supported by Edge.
 
cpp_is_king said:
Weird, Windows Update doesn't show anything for me. I think I have an older card though, 680 or something. I'm doing GeForce Experience right now, I'll see if it works. Do you have multiple monitors? Seems like Windows is supposed to detect the second monitor regardless of my video driver, because monitors have their own drivers. So idk what to do about that, maybe visit the website of the monitor manufacturer and see if there are new drivers? I'll see what happens after the video driver is finished I guess.
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Restarted the PC? Nvidia installed new drivers automatically on my machine but I had to restart for it to work (I also have multiple monitors), and it didnt even tell me I had to (onlçy noticed after opening the device manager)
 
LilJoka said:
Ive not had Chrome not tell me that some Java applet is trying to run, and even if it hasnt, in the 3 years ive been running machines like this ive had exactly 0 problems.

These backdoors that were created, did they need to be facilitated by Internet Explorer?

And again, if its so obvious, how have I had no issues whatsoever on my 7 machines running like this?

Please elaborate on the types of attacks you simulated in VMs. 99% of the time its the user who has the last "say" in something that allows malicious files to be installed to the machine.

The only scenario i can think of when UAC may save a general user is that they launch a trusted program, which then installs a malicious file, that malicious file is then executed by the trusted program, here UAC will notify the user that some random exe is executing, and that would be the last line of defense for the user. For me, thats not really something im concerned with, i can quite easily tell when there is something not right with a system.
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Not to be too detailed, Since it was a classroom environment, some of the tools were nmap through Linux based command line and Wireshark. Basically looking for holes in any open ports or vulnerabilities in webpages mainly trying to attach a script through Flash, Java, Active-X basically anything with a script that pops up on a webpage.

Also other methods to send unsigned code or bad packets through any possible open ports and release a payload that opened a text file with the message "You got caught"

Obviously we couldn't use actual dangerous executables but getting that text file through was the objective.

All of this stuff was basically on a isolated and heavily monitored closed network. Understandable. (Personally, I liked router configuration and cisco stuff more then the security side of things, Subnetting whatnot, but that's an unrelated thing entirely)

The class was about networking security and countermeasures to strengthen them.

I can understand why people dislike UAC especially if one is already an Administrative account and shouldn't need admin privileges. It's a matter of convenience I suppose. Still It's better to have that extra layer of security, rather then deal with a much more serious issue in my opinion.
 
Kiyo said:
Typing regedit into the start menu and hitting enter worked for me.
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Weird it was disabled for me or set up as not configured... for anyone else check out this guide on enabling it.

its so easy dude like ABC..go to run and type "gpedit.msc"
click on administrative template>double click on system>double click Prevent access to registry editing tools>click not configure or disable.then apply then click ok..
you have done dude..good luck..:p
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http://ccm.net/forum/affich-78543-can-t-open-regedit
 
LilJoka said:
Ive not had Chrome not tell me that some Java applet is trying to run, and even if it hasnt, in the 3 years ive been running machines like this ive had exactly 0 problems.

These backdoors that were created, did they need to be facilitated by Internet Explorer?

And again, if its so obvious, how have I had no issues whatsoever on my 7 machines running like this?

Please elaborate on the types of attacks you simulated in VMs. 99% of the time its the user who has the last "say" in something that allows malicious files to be installed to the machine.

The only scenario i can think of when UAC may save a general user is that they launch a trusted program, which then installs a malicious file, that malicious file is then executed by the trusted program, here UAC will notify the user that some random exe is executing, and that would be the last line of defense for the user. For me, thats not really something im concerned with, i can quite easily tell when there is something not right with a system.
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I'm with you, I always I had it set to 0 and haven't run into any problems for years. Hell, I haven't had a virus since 2007 and that was only cause I put an infected USB key into my laptop.

Oh by the way thanks for the recommendation for Total War Rome 2, but I fixed it by veryfing the files. I guess some of my Steam games got jumpy cause I had to reinstall Steam, and every other program and just injected the files in there.
 
ktroopa said:
no idea, but you can run this as admin in the command line to find out, what type of license you have. oem or retail.

slmgr.vbs /dlv
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Uh, I did this and it says retail everywhere. I used the Win 10 ISO I got from Dreamspark but never actually entered the license I've got on my Dreamspark account, so I'd assume it just did a regular upgrade from 8.1 to 10.. But aren't the upgraded OS's supposed to be OEM? The partial product key doesn't match with the key I've got on Dreamspark either.

Does this mean I can change my mobo and CPU and all that shit?
 
moltonasty said:
Half my usb ports stopped working after upgrading. Reverted back to W7 and everything works perfect again.

Any fixes for this?
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Are the usb ports that aren't working blue colored (usb 3.0)? If so then you need to find your motherboard model and go to the site for it and download the USB 3.0 drivers for Windows 10.
 
cpp_is_king said:
What's the story on nVidia drivers? Are they supposed to install autoamtically? I'm stuck on 1024x768, and it doesn't detect my second monitor either. Looks like ass. Am I supposed to run GeForce experience, or is this supposed to be automatic through Windows Update?
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Just reboot and it will fix... at least it did for me.
 
Going to re-post from the other thread since this will be more console centric here

Hasney said:
So how do I share my videos folder so my PS4 can read it? Seems to have changed from the network and sharing centre, where it would logically be!

On Pro N if that helps.
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sam777 said:
How do I change my Xbox account e-mail address in the most simplest way possible?
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1) Use the current address and password to login to account.microsoft.com

2) Click on "Your Info" at the top

3) Click on "Manage your sign-in email or phone number"

4) You can click "Add Email Alias" to add additional email addresses to use for signing in

Once you have verified the accounts, you can switch one of them to your primary.
 
Anyone else having lots of little graphical errors since upgrading? Chrome search bar not displaying text, hitching in Netflix app, "pieces" of pages remaining on screen when minimizing or switching windows?
 
OmegaDL50 said:
Not to be too detailed, Since it was a classroom environment, some of the tools were nmap through Linux based command line and Wireshark. Basically looking for holes in any open ports or vulnerabilities in webpages mainly trying to attach a script through Flash, Java, Active-X basically anything with a script that pops up on a webpage.

Also other methods to send unsigned code or bad packets through any possible open ports and release a payload that opened a text file with the message "You got caught"

Obviously we couldn't use actual dangerous executables but getting that text file through was the objective.

All of this stuff was basically on a isolated and closed network.

The class was about networking security and countermeasures to strengthen them.

I can understand why people dislike UAC especially if one is already an Administrative account and shouldn't need admin privileges. It's a matter of convenience I suppose. Still It's better to have that extra layer of security, rather then deal with a much more serious issue in my opinion.
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Interesting as i come from a Linux background too. The issue i have is that with these attacks, you still require the user to run the activeX or Java applet in the first place. These wont run automatically in any web browser today. Does chrome even support ActiveX (naively or be default i dont think so)?

Im not sure really what attack vector you used to exploit open ports, but generally this method needs a vulnerability to exist in the service running on the machine to be listening on that port. UAC could help here if the attack successfully manages to download a file and execute, that would require a some substantial bug on the web browser side.
 
Kiyo said:
Are the usb ports that aren't working blue colored (usb 3.0)? If so then you need to find your motherboard model and go to the site for it and download the USB 3.0 drivers for Windows 10.
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Ok i will try this, thanks! Didn't even think of this, i guess i just assumed the drivers would be the same.
 
DoctorPayne said:
Anyone else having lots of little graphical errors since upgrading? Chrome search bar not displaying text, hitching in Netflix app, "pieces" of pages remaining on screen when minimizing or switching windows?
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I've seen a few, not really "lots" but it will probably take AMD and NVIDIA a couple months to get the drivers super stable. It hasn't really bothered me.
 
I don't have the icon that lets me reserve/upgrade. How many problems would there be for just using the direct download on the Microsoft site? I've heard that it may ask for a new Windows key.
 
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