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US Presidential Foreign Policy Debate |OT| Please proceed, governor

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I can't believe Romney actually tried to claim the Navy is at its smallest since 1917 and the Air Force since 1947. WTF.

counting number of ships, sure- that's correct.

But warfare has changed. There isn't a single battleship left in anyone's navy, anywhere.
Nuclear submarines didn't exist. They do now. Aircraft carriers were literally a fantasy in 1917.

a handful of modern ships- let alone the whole navy- would utterly annihilate the US navy of 1947.
 

CSX

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For people watching the debates that are undecided, wouldnt they just agree to whatever the closing segments what each news channel says? So if their news station calls it a tie, they would believe it was a tie.
 
"IF General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye. It won’t go overnight, but its demise will be virtually guaranteed."

Seems pretty black and white to me.

The issue is that GM and Chrysler probably wouldn't have been able to do that without a government loan.

well, he was wrong about that. but it seemed to me that obama claimed mitt would have had them fend for themselves and if there is no more US auto industry that would have been just fine by mitt. i thought it was a little disingenuous since the actual op-ed is more nuanced than that.

this wasnt brought up in the debate, but it really bothers me that detroit had to crawl on their hands and knees for $25 billion while the banks were basically able to write their own checks for orders of magnitude more than that.
 

maxxpower

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Is that the size of Sonny's penis?
 

Derrick01

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Look at these dumb fucks on CNN

"Well Obama won on debate points tonight but...."

Isn't that the fucking point of these debates? What's with the qualifiers?
 

PBY

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I don't know which is the bigger joke. MSNBC with Al Sharpton or Fox with Palin.
They all are. I feel like I'm the only one whose bothered by how the whole thing is made out to be like a sporting event, with opposing fans. Kinda gross considering the stakes.
 

dark_chris

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Man, got this friend who is like a hardcore Romney supporter. Geezuz.
Saying how Obama is a failure and Romney will fix everything.
 
Obama dominated the debate. Romney seemed rather reserved and spent a lot of time agreeing with Obama. He has spent months basically talking loud, and I was surprised he didn't continue that bluster tonight given the conservative view that foreign policy is all about being a dick to friends and enemies.
 

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The Autumn Wind
I like how the media is basically giving Romney praise for being a straight-up lying flip-flopper.
 
Guys.

CNN has been a joke for almost 10 years now, since Fox News started eating their lunch in the ratings.

If Romney literally died on stage, they'd find a way to make it as "in the middle" as possible in order to facilitate their ratings.

Watch PBS.
 
counting number of ships, sure- that's correct.

But warfare has changed. There isn't a single battleship left in anyone's navy, anywhere.
Nuclear submarines didn't exist. They do now. Aircraft carriers were literally a fantasy in 1917.

a handful of modern ships- let alone the whole navy- would utterly annihilate the US navy of 1947.

i havent seen it, but i keep hoping someone will post a pic from that south park episode where the british navy tries to invade the us and gets destroyed in like 3 seconds.
 
ABC claiming Mittens looked like a commander in chief. Praising his closing statement...

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
America needs a paliment system, Presidencies ain't working and the press are only saying Romney won for election ratings. Its all too concentrated over a few months instead of 4/5 years.
 
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