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[EverydayBeast]

Anyone catch the preview for "Glass"?

 

[Iaterain]

 

[EverydayBeast]

^ Venom is this generations Catwoman?

 

[EverydayBeast]

^ Venom is this generations Catwoman?

Hardly, Venom already has $80 million in it's opening weekend. (Catwoman's lifetime earnings is $81 million)

 

[Codes 208]

I thought it was good. Not going to win awards but its not the worst film ive seen this year (im looking at you jurassic world 2...)

Tom Hardy really does make the movie though, scenes without him dont have the same polish but overall the scenes with venom and brock were fun to watch.

My only complaint is the last act felt a bit rushed,

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more specifically maybe ten or fifteen minutes of life for brock after removing venom for him to realize he needs venom before being capured. And perhaps more time for riot to assimilate whats his name.

I was also hoping we'd get scream or another symbiot fight. And maybe if they went full R to add to the tensity of scenes of venom going ballistic.

 

[Nikana]

The clincher for me in Spiderman Homecoming was Tony Stark telling Peter that if he isn't anything without the suit, then he shouldn't have it... which is totally hypocritical considering how useless Tony Stark is in battle without the Iron Man suit. Peter actually has powers, and was able to handle himself during the fight with Ant-Man, yet somehow regressed in Homecoming (probably for the sake of shoehorning Iron Man in, and making him look better). I will be glad when MCU kills off Iron Man, as Spiderman will otherwise remain in his shadow every scene (as made evident by Homecoming and the newest avengers movie). The ironic part of all of this is that Spiderman was always a fan favorite, and somehow in the MCU he is the one playing second fiddle to Iron Man (who only became super popular, and well known, because of the MCU).

This is my issue with a lot of the marvel movies in general. If you do any kind of analysis into the main plot, a ton of them make zero sense.

Homecoming being one of the worst. Stark gets all mad because Peter for wreckless behavior on the boat but then Spiderman decides to jump on a plane and crash it but because the caught vulture it's suddenly ok?

But it's Marvel so it always gets a pass.

 

[Gander]

Because of what they were doing it had built in limitations that could not be surpassed but for what they were able to work with it was interesting at times.

 

[manfestival]

This is my issue with a lot of the marvel movies in general. If you do any kind of analysis into the main plot, a ton of them make zero sense.

Homecoming being one of the worst. Stark gets all mad because Peter for wreckless behavior on the boat but then Spiderman decides to jump on a plane and crash it but because the caught vulture it's suddenly ok?

But it's Marvel so it always gets a pass.

at least its not DC. screw that

 

[hecatomb]

Watched Venom, problem is nothing happens for like 30 mins. Some of the story could have been better, since a lot of stuff isn't explained. Out of the worst marvel movies, it far from it. Dare Devil, ghost rider movies, iron man 3, elektra, spider man 3, are still the worst marvel movies.

 

[Ar¢tos]

Just came back from the cinema... I don't know if it was because this was the first time I set foot in a cinema since 2010, or because of the movie itself, but I wasn't impressed.
It wasn't bad, but it could have been a lot better. Lot of gaps, like it was edited a lot to reduce the play time and the ending was meh.

 

[PrCat88]

Not like this though. I hope it burns and Sony stops shitting their bed for once, using the MCU as an outlet for quality control.

I will gladly give up Carnage if it means a strengthened Spidey lore in the MCU.

Sony isn't going to give up the rights to Spider-man anytime soon. And Venom's strong opening thus far is showing that they may no longer need MCU once their contract is up.

 

[JLMC469]

And Venom's strong opening thus far is showing that they may no longer need MCU once their contract is up.

Let's see how big the drop is first...

 

[Geki-D]

I thought it was ok, I mean it was decent. Not the greatest movie ever but it's not a terrible mess either. It's no Cat Women, DareDevil or fan4stic. A pretty average action flick with some good action scenes. There have been a few MCU movies that I've thought were worst.

I liked how people actually got killed in it, made a good difference from the other Marvel movies and not just 'bad guys' either. The only let down is the third act which feels rushed as fuck and doesn't make much sense.

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After the hospital it starts to unravel, starting with Brock pointlessly getting walked into the woods to be shot when they had no trouble getting rid of bodies in the lab before that. Earlier Venom was all, like "We're gonna come and destroy your world" then suddenly at the end for no real reason he's like "I like it here, you remind me of myself, let's save the world, together".

Then there's that women who get left in the woods but suddenly teleports to the control room, ignoring distance, for plot convenience and speaking of her, the symbiotes need compatible hosts but Venom just jumps in her and controls her with no side effects, same with the dog (none of the feeling sick or anything) because plot convenience. Venom and Riot fight but it's all so rushed, Venom just shows up and Riot already seems pretty sure he has to fight him. I mean he literally asks Venom to get on the rocket and Venom barely says more than "nope" and Riot's all like "Well whatever, you die now" as if he saw it coming from a mile away. And Stan Lee seems to know Brock has Venom in him and Brock apparently finds this to be normal he also wants to keep Venom still being alive a secret from his ex but has no issue 'transforming' into Venom in front of people to seemingly outright eat a guy whole then joke about the guy he just murdered.

I wish the end was as decent as the rest. People tend to remember endings more than the any other part so I feel that's going to taint a lot of people's opinions of the movie. I also want this to be canon the the rest of the MCU.

 

[Mr Hyde]

Very polarizing on Rotten Tomatoes.

30% critics approval versus 89% audience. Is this the new The Last Jedi except the opposite?

 

[Codes 208]

Just saw it a second time with another group of friends. Even a second time I thought it was a decent romp and everyone ive seen it with enjoyed it with some minor complaints.

Like i mentioned, if you turn of your quality assurance glasses, its just a dumb fun movie (se ond half anyway. I understand the complaints that it takes too long to set up venom, but i prefer it that way otherwise it feels rushed.

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I would say my favorite parts are moments like when venom threatens Brock's neighbor for playing music too loudly. When he first appears and brock makes a girly scream as he flings back into the wall knocking himself out.

Oh, and venom calling brock a loser just like him.

 

[Geki-D]

Very polarizing on Rotten Tomatoes.

30% critics approval versus 89% audience. Is this the new The Last Jedi except the opposite?

Well I mean the main character is a white guy, the women in it barely does anything and there's pretty much only one and the villain is Indian or something to that effect, I mean he's not white (and besides the minor asian roles he's the only non-white speaking role). I'm not surprised modern day critics aren't liking it but gush all over a dumpster fire like Black Panther.

 

[Hotspurr]

I saw it and really liked it. More than most marvel movies.
Without Tom Hardy it would border on a B movie, though. There are some major character personality leaps, but other than that it is enjoyable, has decent comedic moments, the action is good, there is a science fiction component. Overall it made a much better impression for me than Avengers (which was half a movie) or Black Panther (which was just politics).

 

[Bryank75]

Very polarizing on Rotten Tomatoes.

30% critics approval versus 89% audience. Is this the new The Last Jedi except the opposite?

Critics don’t have a clue anymore, they were gagging to shot on this for months. I always go by my own interest in the subject and then genuine testimonial of people....finally my own impression.

 

[PrCat88]

Let's see how big the drop is first...

Even if there's a drop it doesn't seem like Sony is viewing this a failure a week and a half into it.

 

[Woo-Fu]

Even if there's a drop it doesn't seem like Sony is viewing this a failure a week and a half into it.

Because that's a sure way to prop up a floundering project, admit on social media that it missed the mark.

I'm not saying that Venom isn't hitting target, I'm saying that if it weren't then the last person I'd expect to hear that from is the social media front-end of Sony Pictures.

 

[PrCat88]

Because that's a sure way to prop up a floundering project, admit on social media that it missed the mark.

I'm not saying that Venom isn't hitting target, I'm saying that if it weren't then the last person I'd expect to hear that from is the social media front-end of Sony Pictures.

I mean, it's boasting, but it's boasting about continued worldwide success on something that didn't directly have Spider-man. I get people may be disappointed if they have it in their head Sony should willingly give up the rights to Disney, but I can't blame Sony on this one. What I find funny is Tom Holland could theoretically be in a movie with Tom Hardy's Venom if Sony felt so inclined since their contract has one more movie with him after 'Far From Home' which may be the last Spiderman MCU film if the contract with Marvel isn't renewed.

 

[Akuza89]

So I went and watched it last night.

The first half of the film is slow... and boring. Tries explaining the whole symbiotes being on earth thing and what they're doing with them.

Then as Eddie gets the symbiote the film starts to change... into more of a film about a crazy person with this power, which made me sit up. But then they tried turning everything into horror....while simultaneously trying to make us laugh and care about Eddie. Which it didn't work, any of it.

The whole "venom and Eddie make out" is bull crap, without spoiling the film, it's not venom.

I feel like they tried to get too many genres in there, and it worked out a bit of a mess.

It's not the worst film of the ever, it's deffinately not catwomen. But it's not brilliant it's just, ok.

 

[PrCat88]

Number 1 for a second week now. Still going strong.

 

[Codes 208]

while simultaneously trying to make us laugh and care about Eddie. Which it didn't work, any of it.

Idk, i laughed pretty hard when venom called eddie a pussy during the escalator scene

And when he first appeard to eddie causing him to make a high pitched shriek and slam backwards.

And blatantly telling him they had no chance against riot.

Id say it hit the vibe of venom as a character pretty well. Or atleast better than SM3's portrayal. Venom was never a complicated character, and even from his first comic appearance he was a bit of an odd shade of goofball from mockingly referring to peter as a neighbor (and the origin of the phrase "eyes. Lungs. Pancreas, so many snacks, so little time.")

Everything else was either average or subpar though. Like the chase scene was cool but it was also very run of the mill.

I also wouldve preferred seeing the other symbiotes like Phage and Scream, but whatever.

Im also hoping that for the sequel we get spiderman for a good ol' teamup against carnage

 

[Owari]

I enjoyed the movie, pacing was a little off and there were some plot holes, but nothing too scathing. 7.2/10

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Carnage was absolutely horrible though. Can studios stop casting Woody Harrelson in every fucking movie for a change? He looked stupid as hell, and that little face he makes when he says "There's going to be carnage" is the most cringeworthy thing I've ever seen in a superhero movie. WHY couldnt they get the creepy looking long hair guy from the tests to be carnage? Or literally any of the other test subjects instead of this cheesy ass

 

[Silent Duck]

Although I never watched “Gotham”, the guy that plays their version of the Joker looks like Cletus Kassidy. Don’t know if he can act... but it would still be better than Little Orphan Woody.
I mean, Great zombie Jesus! That wig was awful.

 

[Duallusion]

Movie was a tonaly and otherwise a mess (deleted scenes galore, probably), was distractingly stupid in places (no cameras in the lab section Eddie just waltzed into?) and the most of final battle was so dark I could berely see what was going on and yet ... it somehow ends up being better then the sum of its parts, if only barely and mostly because of Hardy.

I'd never call it a good movie but it was fun enough.

 

[BANGS]

The trailers alone made the movie look like complete ass...

 

[michaelius]

Very polarizing on Rotten Tomatoes.

30% critics approval versus 89% audience. Is this the new The Last Jedi except the opposite?

I went to the movie today (better description would be my friends wanted me to go with them) thinking it will be crap as I vaguely remembered it was scoring low so I was really surprised when after a bit slow start movie turned out to be great.

Even if it was stpid fun it was still way more enjoyable than Infinity War or Ant-Man 2.

And bonus points for actually having interesting villains unlike most Marvel movies.

 

[hiphopcr]

And bonus points for actually having interesting villains unlike most Marvel movies.

 

[VulcanRaven]

I liked this movie. I'm not saying that its great but it was fun to watch. It was awesome to see Venom in a movie again. There were a lot of stupid things though. I hope they make a sequel.

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I wouldn't have picked Woody Harrelson to play Cletus Kasady. He is a good actor but I would have picked someone else.

 

[5secondrulesucks]

it seems people enjoyed it more than they hated it. man "critics" are so out of the loop with everything. they cant even just enjoy a dumb action movie

 

[Geki-D]

And bonus points for actually having interesting villains unlike most Marvel movies.

Are you including Venom in that? Because otherwise I'd say it really doesn't do any better. Between CEO guy whose name I can't remember, goon who shows up a few times and I'm not even sure has a name and 2 minutes of Riot, I really can't agree.

If anything the villain reminded me of the first Ant-Man to the point of almost being a rip-off; Both are rich CEOs chasing after something dangerous they have to test first on both animals and humans before using that thing against the hero who has mastered it since the beginning in a prolonged CGI fight. If anything I prefered the end fight in Ant-Man because in Venom I could hardly tell what was going on.

Now that I really think about it, Venom is practically a darker version of Ant-Man when it comes to the main plot points. The only real difference is that the mcguffin is the symbiote rather than the shrink tech with the situation differences that entails. Also Ant-Man has better pacing all the way through.

The more I think about it, the more I'm actually blown away by the similarities. Am I the only one who sees this?

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I wouldn't have picked Woody Harrelson to play Cletus Kasady. He is a good actor but I would have picked someone else.

What really bothers me is he's just so old. Are we really setting up that character to be played by a 57 year old? He may even be 60 by the time the sequel comes about and he more or less looks his age, too. In the comics/cartoon (I'm more familiar with the latter) the character is pretty young, so it's just jarring.

 

[manfestival]

I saw venom. It was pretty cookie cutter. It wasn't a bad movie but it was unspectacular. Most of the humor was ok but the humor at the end was definitely tone deaf and trying too hard.

The post credit scene was nice. I do kinda hope that they learn from the first movie and continue down the story path that they have chosen. Just hope they do better than venom vs riot cause that was kinda... too much going on with too many angles.

To me the movie was more of a 5/10.

 

[Clear]

This tribalistic thing between Marvel and DC comicbook movies is so damn weird to me. To me, its all disposable fun, and the truth is cape movies are so frickin commonplace these days even if you dislike one movie, there'll be another one along shortly afterwards that might be more to your taste.

Honestly, I can't be bothered to even keep score any more.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

Well, we came to the conclusion that if any critic of the cinema gives a bad rating, it means that the movie is actually good

 

[mcz117chief]

I just saw the movie today and I enjoyed it, some weird plot holes and religious and environmental ignorance (one generation away from inhospitable planet lol ) but besides that it was very fun for the most part.

 

[Rentahamster]

It wasn't that bad. It was quite charming.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

It wasn't that bad. It was quite charming.

Once I got over “Venom without Spider-Man” then I was really could enjoy it.

I like he cast. Michelle Williams and Hardy are great, talented actors

 

[Rentahamster]

Yup, the face turn was hilarious too. "cuz I'm a loser on my home planet. Kinda like you"

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

Yup, the face turn was hilarious too. "cuz I'm a loser on my home planet. Kinda like you"

I’m a loser in my own apartment, kind of like....uh, some people.

So I found them relatable

 

[triplestation]

This movie obviously wasn't reaching for the stars or anything. It was like watching an episode of a cartoon, but live action. Only real issue I found was the villain. I just don't buy Riz Ahmed as a fucken CEO lmao. Take the suit off and put a hoodie on him and he easily looks like a fucken college student. If this movie had a compelling villain, even if the villain were over the top, it would have been pretty solid. As is, it's still a pretty watchable "cartoon episode" movie. It's one of those that you land on and keep watching as you're flipping through the channels.

Another thing I found just off is Michelle Williams. What in the fuck is she doing here? She's got no clue what's going on and is dressed like a high school student. She just looks absolutely lost in this.

TBH I would recast most of the characters. Get Channing Tatum for Brock. Turn this dude's hair blonde and make his character an MMA gym rat somewhat loner type with an interest in UFOs and conspiracy theories and journalism. I think that would be cool!

Hugo Weaving for Carlton Drake

I think Venom 2 will deliver with fucken Woody Harrelson as Carnage. Venom 2 will be what this should have been.

 

[God Enel]

This movie obviously wasn't reaching for the stars or anything. It was like watching an episode of a cartoon, but live action. Only real issue I found was the villain. I just don't buy Riz Ahmed as a fucken CEO lmao. Take the suit off and put a hoodie on him and he easily looks like a fucken college student. If this movie had a compelling villain, even if the villain were over the top, it would have been pretty solid. As is, it's still a pretty watchable "cartoon episode" movie. It's one of those that you land on and keep watching as you're flipping through the channels.

Another thing I found just off is Michelle Williams. What in the fuck is she doing here? She's got no clue what's going on and is dressed like a high school student. She just looks absolutely lost in this.

TBH I would recast most of the characters. Get Channing Tatum for Brock. Turn this dude's hair blonde and make his character an MMA gym rat somewhat loner type with an interest in UFOs and conspiracy theories and journalism. I think that would be cool!

Hugo Weaving for Carlton Drake

I think Venom 2 will deliver with fucken Woody Harrelson as Carnage. Venom 2 will be what this should have been.

Is a sequel officially in the making?

 

[5secondrulesucks]

i thought the first dare devil movie was tight. and i also liked the captain america movie where he steals the car and the mask squishes his nose. i dont give a fuck they were great movies

 

[triplestation]

Is a sequel officially in the making?

Yep. I believe it's a 3 movie deal.

I'm wondering if they do Carnage for the second movie villain then who the hell else could be the villain for 3? Oh I know. Spider-Man!

 

[Papa]

i thought the first dare devil movie was tight. and i also liked the captain america movie where he steals the car and the mask squishes his nose. i dont give a fuck they were great movies

Very cool opinion, friend

 

[triplestation]

Man Tom Hardy's Brock wasn't curious enough. I think I nailed it. For some reason they made his Brock a pushover. You need an Eddie Brock with obsessive qualities. He'd be like an amalgamation of Eddie bravo and Joe Rogan. He'd be into MMA, UFOs and conspiracy theories and he'd be a small time journalist. Take someone like that and introduce them to an alien symbiote. I think that would work great.

 

[VulcanRaven]

i thought the first dare devil movie was tight. and i also liked the captain america movie where he steals the car and the mask squishes his nose. i dont give a fuck they were great movies

I recommend watching the director's cut of Daredevil. It is 30 minutes longer and much better than the theatrical version.

 

[5secondrulesucks]

I recommend watching the director's cut of Daredevil. It is 30 minutes longer and much better than the theatrical version.

i dont know to me its like the movie sucks sure but if you cant just sit down and enjoy a crappy movie then what the fuck can you enjoy

 

[Stiflers Mom]

I watched this yesterday on Netflix, and really loved it. First off I felt it would suck, but once they get this Eddie/Venom dynamic going, it was really fun.

Tom Hardy was amazing in his role, Michelle Williams was quite okay as well.
Didn't like the indian dude as the evil CEO. He just didn't have the presence to portray that role, imo.

It's definitely up there with the better MCU efforts.

4.5/5