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[godhandiscen]

The major investor referenced in the video is Tencent, which is owned by the CCP.

Worried about Huawei? Take a closer look at Tencent

The social media giant is a growing global force, and it does Beijing's bidding.

www.japantimes.co.jp

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Democrats keep calling Trump a "nazi" to distract from the actual nazi-like regime taking place in asia. Heartbreaking to see but completely unsurprising. China never "reformed", dummies. This has been going on for decades.

 

[Pagusas]

So this is the type of thing the extreme left dreams of and touches themselves to at night?

 

[godhandiscen]

I showed this to some friends working at companies with Tencent investment:

“summer camp bro”

Nobody on the side of the money gives a fuck.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

The guards are just ensuring proper social distancing.

 

[triplejjj]

Democrats keep calling Trump a "nazi" to distract from the actual nazi-like regime taking place in asia. Heartbreaking to see but completely unsurprising. China never "reformed", dummies. This has been going on for decades.

Both can be right, I don't know why it's important for you to argue the lesser of two, very obvious evils.

Also - trump very openly admires the CCP

 

[Knch]

Nobody gives a fuck.

Fixed.

 

[Alfen Dave]

I showed this to some friends working at companies with Tencent investment:

“summer camp bro”

Nobody on the side of the money gives a fuck.

based friend

 

[LordCBH]

Do not watch films funded by Tencent. Don’t play games published by Tencent or a company Tencent owns. Fuck Tencent and fuck the Chinese government.

 

[Stouffers]

What are Lebrons thoughts on this?

 

[godhandiscen]

based friend

I know, I chuckled too. I love my buddy though, and I won’t cast a stone. I am confident that the money I make is pretty amoral too.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Democrats keep calling Trump a "nazi" to distract from the actual nazi-like regime taking place in asia. Heartbreaking to see but completely unsurprising. China never "reformed", dummies. This has been going on for decades.

One of the more upsetting details in Bolton's (droning, inane) book was that Trump apparently told Xi that this was the exact right thing to do. I don't know why we just decided this week to give a fuck about this.

 

[notseqi]

What are Lebrons thoughts on this?

Or has anybody had the sense to ask Ja-Rule for his expertise?

 

[GAMETA]

Both can be right, I don't know why it's important for you to argue the lesser of two, very obvious evils.

Also - trump very openly admires the CCP

Please explain to me how Trump is a nazi. I'm not american.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

China making better and better phones to capture their evil shit lol

 

[Goro Majima]

Kinda wish the US would offer amnesty to these people if they're able to get out.

 

[lock2k]

And some morons insist on defending this shithole.

 

[lock2k]

Kinda wish the US would offer amnesty to these people if they're able to get out.

Send the soypeople there and bring these people to the west.

 

[triplejjj]

Please explain to me how Trump is a nazi. I'm not american.

No one's calling trump a nazi. They (the poster I'm referring to in this thread) are saying he has a nazi-like regime, which when broken down just means he has a racially charged agenda.

If you need help to understand how "build a wall to keep the mexicans out", "good people on both sides" and "caravan of rapists and looters" isn't racist, I can't help you further.

 

[JimiNutz]

How is this kinda shit still happening in 2020.

As a species we're still mostly a bunch of dumb fucking apes.

 

[SF Kosmo]

No one's calling trump a nazi. They (the poster I'm referring to in this thread) are saying he has a nazi-like regime, which when broken down just means he has a racially charged agenda.

If you need help to understand how "build a wall to keep the mexicans out", "good people on both sides" and "caravan of rapists and looters" isn't racist, I can't help you further.

"White grievance" definitely seems to be the operating theme of his campaign. And the notion of an ever-more fantastical culture war that he alone can protect his base from.

Trump's not really able to wield power effectively enough to be a fascist, though, but he certainly seems to have a great amount of admiration for those that do.

 

[BoingBus]

No one's calling trump a nazi. They (the poster I'm referring to in this thread) are saying he has a nazi-like regime, which when broken down just means he has a racially charged agenda.

If you need help to understand how "build a wall to keep the mexicans out", "good people on both sides" and "caravan of rapists and looters" isn't racist, I can't help you further.

Dundunpachi is a true American patriot unlike those SJW cucks who just want to see Trump fail. If you want to see Trump fail, you are not American.

 

[godhandiscen]

One of the more upsetting details in Bolton's (droning, inane) book was that Trump apparently told Xi that this was the exact right thing to do. I don't know why we just decided this week to give a fuck about this.

I had never seen video of this. Up until now, all I had to believe in it was my faith in SouthPark. I posted it here because it was in the front page of another forum I frequent.

If Bidden expressed at least a bit of discontent towards the CCP for the situation we are all living though, it would be wonderful; perhaps even change some minds. Alas, the only one calling a spade a spade in front of the cameras seems to be Trump.

 

[cryptoadam]

Its ok, Reddit allows racism committed by minorities.

I mean seriously, Chinese people have to deal with Trump saying Kung Flu, what else are they supposed to do? If someone implies that a pandemic originated in China the logical thing for China to do is round up people based on their beliefs. How does no one see this?

Thank god Biden was quoting Mao the other day to make sure we all remember how glorious and oppressed the CCP are. CCP is just fighting for minoirty Han rights in China where they are a minority and victims of systemic racism.

 

[SF Kosmo]

I had never seen video of this. Up until now, all I had to believe in it was my faith in SouthPark. I posted it here because it was in the front page of another forum I frequent.

If Bidden expressed at least a bit of discontent towards the CCP for the situation we are all living though, it would be wonderful; perhaps even change some minds. Alas, the only one calling a spade a spade in front of the cameras seems to be Trump.

It's not enough to just be critical of China, though, we're in a very co-dependent relationship with them and Trump doesn't seem to have a lot of good ideas about how to solve any of these problems or even what exactly they are. He looks at tarriffs like they some form of collections, but he doesn't seem to actually understand what they are or who pays them or what the long term effects are.

It would be nice if there was someone who both wanted to stand up to China AND had a functioning brain, but I don't think that person is running for office this year.

 

[YCoCg]

So this is the type of thing the extreme left dreams of and touches themselves to at night?

And it's what the right WISHES they could do to the left, it's a funny thing how that gets accused when Right wingers have been in favour of these tactics in the past when it aligns with their political beliefs.

 

[BoingBus]

Its ok, Reddit allows racism committed by minorities.

I mean seriously, Chinese people have to deal with Trump saying Kung Flu, what else are they supposed to do? If someone implies that a pandemic originated in China the logical thing for China to do is round up people based on their beliefs. How does no one see this?

Thank god Biden was quoting Mao the other day to make sure we all remember how glorious and oppressed the CCP are. CCP is just fighting for minoirty Han rights in China where they are a minority and victims of systemic racism.

Yep! This guy gets it.

Trump is the furthest thing from racist and it makes me sick that people are calling him a racist. He talks like a nomal person, like all of us do without 24/7 PC filters.

Biden and Obummer, now those two are clowns who just want to take all our money. Just look at China and Venezuela is you want to see what happens to liberal countries.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Democrats keep calling Trump a "nazi" to distract from the actual nazi-like regime taking place in asia. Heartbreaking to see but completely unsurprising. China never "reformed", dummies. This has been going on for decades.

And guess which candidate a part of the globalist cabal is in bed with China...

 

[lock2k]

Yep! This guy gets it.

Trump is the furthest thing from racist and it makes me sick that people are calling him a racist. He talks like a nomal person, like all of us do without 24/7 PC filters.

Biden and Obummer, now those two are clowns who just want to take all our money. Just look at China and Venezuela is you want to see what happens to liberal countries.

People calling him racist are plain dumb. He is far better for black communities than Obama ever was.

 

[Pagusas]

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And it's what the right WISHES they could do to the left, it's a funny thing how that gets accused when Right wingers have been in favour of these tactics in the past when it aligns with their political beliefs.

Absolutely, extremes in both parties are the worst. Right now the extreme left is the one in the headlines, it'll come back around to the extreme right soon enough im sure.

 

[BoingBus]

People calling him racist are plain dumb. He is far better for black communities than Obama ever was.

Obama is the bigger racist and he caused all the roadblocks (aka problems) that Trump is dealing with right now to get anything done effectively.

 

[godhandiscen]

It's not enough to just be critical of China, though, we're in a very co-dependent relationship with them and Trump doesn't seem to have a lot of good ideas about how to solve any of these problems or even what exactly they are. He looks at tarriffs like they some form of collections, but he doesn't seem to actually understand what they are or who pays them or what the long term effects are.

It would be nice if there was someone who both wanted to stand up to China AND had a functioning brain, but I don't think that person is running for office this year.

You mock Trump for not understanding his own strategy, but do you understand what the tarrifs have done?
The tariffs sought to protect the intellectual property of American companies while aiding countries with less exploitative labor when bidding for manufacturing contracts.

Moreover, what negative impact have we seen as a result of the tariffs? Harley’s costing 10% more? There is a lot of articles written around the tariffs, and yet we have not seen how us residents of the USA are negatively affected.

You can read the full agreement here:

https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/files/agreements/phase%20one%20agreement/Economic_And_Trade_Agreement_Between_The_United_States_And_China_Text.pdf

Please do not reply with journalist opinions, make up your own.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Please do not reply with journalist opinions, make up your own.

In many cases, you may as well ask someone not to speak instead of this.

Borrowed intelligence is perhaps the most rampant internet brain-disease.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Obama is the bigger racist and he caused all the roadblocks (aka problems) that Trump is dealing with right now to get anything done effectively.

It's the opposite. Obama strengthened the power of the executive and side-stepped Congress (who in fairness were very obstructionist in their tactics). Trump has continued to push this even further and really test the constitutional limits of his authority, but Obama (and Bush to a lesser extent) laid the groundwork for that.

 

[LoV]

Land of the free where you can call Trump a Nazi while China ships slave labour daily.

Enjoy communism.

 

[SF Kosmo]

Borrowed intelligence is perhaps the most rampant internet brain-disease.

Borrowed intelligence is also called "civilization". As individuals only a small fraction of our knowledge is actually novel.

Joe Rogan had a bit many years ago that said "You take the smartest guy on the planet and put him on a desert island with a hatchet how long until he can send me an email?"

What makes us smart as a species is the way we have built collaboration tools to share information, and you can trace a direct line between how advanced a society is and how able it is to share information across a large amount of people.

Problem is we largely sift through this information using consensus but now with the internet and social media we can find any consensus you want. We work it backwards. You think the earth is flat, you just find people to tell you that. You want to prove your point you just google someone who has done it for you.

The current information paradigm has kind of broken the way our brains actually process that information, so you get a lot of people being real fucking dumb.

 

[M1chl]

Do not watch films funded by Tencent. Don’t play games published by Tencent or a company Tencent owns. Fuck Tencent and fuck the Chinese government.

With Unreal Engine and Tencent backing Epic, this is quite an issue.

 

[daveonezero]

Democrats keep calling Trump a "nazi" to distract from the actual nazi-like regime taking place in asia. Heartbreaking to see but completely unsurprising. China never "reformed", dummies. This has been going on for decades.

Maybe that is just the distraction. He could be in on the distraction.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Borrowed intelligence is also called "civilization". As individuals only a small fraction of our knowledge is actually novel.

Joe Rogan had a bit many years ago that said "You take the smartest guy on the planet and put him on a desert island with a hatchet how long until he can send me an email?"

What makes us smart as a species is the way we have built collaboration tools to share information, and you can trace a direct line between how advanced a society is and how able it is to share information across a large amount of people.

Problem is we largely sift through this information using consensus but now with the internet and social media we can find any consensus you want. We work it backwards. You think the earth is flat, you just find people to tell you that. You want to prove your point you just google someone who has done it for you.

The current information paradigm has kind of broken the way our brains actually process that information, so you get a lot of people being real fucking dumb.

No, I'm talking about borrowed intelligence, not the building blocks of civilization. Are you able to hold a conversation, or is this the typical NPC yanking it back to the narrow range their script covers instead of... you know... forming their own opinion? Seems like godhandiscen had you pegged.

When your intelligence is comprised of disconnected statements, quips, quotes, and articles about some study from some scientists, you aren't actually smart. You're just taking something you saw and throwing it at someone who knows a bit less than you. But in actual conversation, it becomes obvious who is just borrowing talking points and who has their own opinion. Finding the latter is a gem and should be treasured, even if the other person doesn't happen to share all the same viewpoints as you, which isn't the goal anyway. The internet is a perfect tool for sorting out borrowed intelligence and real intelligence, because there are no equalizers or bigotries. Black, white, old, young, male, female, none of that matters on the internet as long as you can form a compelling argument.

I'm here to have a conversation with people who've put in the time to learn, who are humble enough to accept suggestions aimed at their paradigm, and who continually present a better, more complete version of their beliefs as time goes on. I seek out those kind of people and I appreciate when they return the sentiment to me.That is civilization. Parroting talking points from journos is not intelligence and especially not "civilization"

 

[CloudNull]

With Unreal Engine and Tencent backing Epic, this is quite an issue.

I am uninstalling Valorant and all Riot games soon as I get home. Sucks because Valorant is my most played game in years but I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg for Tencent.

 

[M1chl]

I am uninstalling Valorant and all Riot games soon as I get home. Sucks because Valorant is my most played game in years but I have a feeling this is just the tip of the iceberg for Tencent.

The issue is that, basically the people who needs to see it, not going to see it. And that's how this giant grew probably. Obviously the principle "is too far, I don't care for it" does not applies in this, because I am sure that sooner or later, there is going to be some cultural and ideological push. Remember where the whole subversion of western culture or rather that principle came from. China.

 

[SF Kosmo]

No, I'm talking about borrowed intelligence, not the building blocks of civilization. Are you able to hold a conversation, or is this the typical NPC yanking it back to the narrow range their script covers instead of... you know... forming their own opinion? Seems like godhandiscen had you pegged.

This got aggro and pissy out of nowhere, so you tell me? Nothing I said was meant as a personal attack at all, let's be cool.

When your intelligence is comprised of disconnected statements, quips, quotes, and articles about some study from some scientists, you aren't actually smart.

Likewise, if you're just pontificating without having read all those statements, quotes, and articles you're not smart either.

For most of human history, access to information was the biggest problem we were trying to solve and people who had better access to information were the ones who got ahead. That's why I say, historically, better mechanisms for disseminating information have been the key movers in societies advancing. Boats, writing, the printing press, all moved society forward because it allowed us to share information collectively.

Now we all have virtually unlimited access to information and for the average person that paradigm has kind of flipped because the tools we use to actually process and analyze that information (i.e. our brains) haven't adapted to this.

We have all this access to "information" but much of it is of dubious quality and we aren't really equipped to filter and sort through it very well. In the old days we did this in a group, but now people self-select their consensus groups, and often specifically seek out information in a way that does this. It breaks the old way of dealing with conflicting information.

So that's my point. It's not so much about whether your information is novel or borrowed, it's about your ability to vet and interpret that information.

 

[Ma-Yuan]

Imagining that most of these people on the video will end up dead or best case scenario never be released again makes my blood boil. It reminds of the trains we Germans used to the concentration and death camps so much. Hard to believe we live in world where this can happen again. But it's human nature I guess and I can't blame the Chinese in general for it. There are many other people world wide who do the same to other groups if they could indoctrination and the need to see urself better drives this shit combined with certain human characters that are capable to commit this atrocities and still go on as if nothing happened.

 

[Tesseract]

shit is fugged, all you can do is limit the damage by not doing business with these clowns

 

[LordCBH]

With Unreal Engine and Tencent backing Epic, this is quite an issue.

Sadly you’re 100% right. I didn’t think I’d ever say this, but I wish companies in the US were limited from or forbidden from getting funding and investments from CCP companies.

 

[DESTROYA]

How horrible if true, not that this is a unusual practice to China seeing how they handle the Uygurs .

 

[SinDelta]

So much for "Never again."

 

[DragoonWalker]

If that is indeed what's happening in that video and those people are innocents, then horrible.
However, if those people are actually extremist terrorists and criminals, much like Antifa and crazy rioters in the US, then... maybe this isn't what we think it is...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_China

I'm gonna catch shit on here for this, but I'm not so sure it's such a simple situation. It's too easy to call the CCP, however shady they are in surveillance, the second coming of Nazis, when we're unclear of the political situation over there. With recent events in the US, BLM running amok, even talk of succession, don't people on here think it's best to throttle the crazies? What if this is their version, and they're just putting a hard stop to it? Look, I could be wrong and the CCP is indeed overreaching, as would be the gut reaction, but... just a thought.

 

[brap]

Tencent should be banned from doing anything in the US.

 

[Thurible]

Honestly fuck the Chinese oligarchy. Free religious and political expression is not allowed there. Did you know that the Chinese government closes down and literally razes churches not in line with the party? There is also essentially two catholic churches in China, one that is controlled by the state and another that exists underground and is actually in accordance with Rome. However (and this really pisses me off), the Vatican allows this and recognizes the state controlled churches instead of the underground ones. The real faithful are being abandoned. Religious persecution is a very real and tangible thing in China as those not in line could be arrested or even worse. Toeing the line and bowing to an evil regime to try to protect some of the faithful doesn't justify abandoning the rest who actually put their lives on the line for the Church. It astonishes me as a practicing Catholic that they would do this as it goes against our very beliefs.

Then there is what is happening with the Uyghur Muslims. They are actively trying to destroy a people and faith with them by sending the Uyghurs to "re-education camps" and putting subjectong them to torture and forced labor. Sterilization of these people and forced abortions on their unborn babies is also happening.

Mass media surveillance is everywhere and freedom of speech is non-existent in China. I absolutely hate that such a beautiful land and peoples are under the control of tyrants with no respect or decency to the individuals that they govern.