-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | February 2013 | The most desirable handheld in Japan
- Thread starter Noi
- Start date
Yeah, the PSP showcase was a little awkward.
It is the the streaming tech integrated into the PS4, allowing for an improved remote play.
so you were waiting for Vita price cut and vita games announcements in the PS4 event? really?
using Gaikai tech to make Vita able to work as good as Wii U gamepad with all PS4 will be good, and it is just a feature you can use or ignore.
If anything more people having Vitas is not a bad thing..also they didn't kill Vita games developments or anything.
Wonder why they changed the Vita D-Pad from the devkit controllers back to the four-piece?
yeah,hope they put vita dpad back in the final version of DS4.
Kyleripman
Member
So if all PS4 games are going to be remote play with Vita, what incentive will developers have to even make a Vita version of any games?
Remote play only works if the PS4 is in the same room?
Considering that third party devs rarely if never offer cross-buy (Sony only), how would that be a bad thing? Other than slightly higher costs as you're forced to buy the PS4 version, but then you're getting the console game.
I suppose it would be like if instead of Urban Trials having a PS3 version and an inferior Vita version for a few bucks less, you'd have the PS3 version playable on both. Seems like a win-win to me.
(But I suppose the actual answer would be for Vita owners that don't own a PS4, and as mentioned above^)
Hi i'm Caleb
Member
I got excited for a split second when he said monster hunter...but then reality set back in. Still though dat remote play!
Kyleripman
Member
This, and if it's only remote play (no actual Vita version of the game), then you can't play it on the go.
Maybe I'm just being alarmist, though. I guess this will get more people interested in the Vita in the first place, which can only be good.
Weren't people saying wait for this conference to see if the support was there? What about people that don't want to get a PS4 but want vita games are they shit out of luck?
Leona Lewis
Banned
Cut off at the knees, that poor thing.
More B-tier schlock, save us Media Molecule (and your tiny Vita team of 15 people).
How so? Was there a release date for Shadow Fall?
Anyone have footage of Knack Remote Play?
AranhaHunter
Banned
I am glad I wasn't the only one lol
Leona Lewis
Banned
That guy is a fraud. He was talking about some new indie games being announced and Europe's oh-so-lovely 1st Vita-versary sale.
famousmortimer is the only one who's hinting anything of actual substance. Though if he was talking about the game I think he was, hype remains at zero for now.
Places where there's no/low-speed Wi-Fi? People who don't want to spend $400+ on a PS4?
Regardless, I think implementation will be disappointingly sloppy and rare. Sony never gets anything completely right.
think about it this way...
if the ps4 is a success
and if the vita remote play takes off
the vita will sell more
and more games will come to it.
i've been saying for a while though that this event likely wasn't going to talk much about the vita, they have to save something for destination playstation next week, which lines up with the japanese date for the vita price cut nicely so it makes sense to have vita news and the price cut there.
corrosivefrost
Member
Holy shit! Toto is the voice of reason?! Did I die during the event or something? Quick!!! Someone call 911! I need a bambulance!
J/K buddy -- but seriously, I like this Toto. Sarcastic voice of reason Toto. *high-five*
Based on the conference, I'd rather play Killzone: Mercenary than play CrysisZone 4.
Kyleripman
Member
Yup, that's pretty much me. I'm just hoping that developers won't ignore Vita development since "oh well they can just use remote play to play whatever they want." Like I said, maybe it's a stupid worry. Here's hoping.
Mercenary is no longer the next Killzone, Shadow Fall is. A really stupid announcement to make if it isn't a launch title, and Sony planned on making Mercenary a big deal.
corrosivefrost
Member
(1) No launch date.
(2) Footage looked early.
(3) Footage wasn't impressive (to me, at least)
Again, I'd buy a Vita and Killzone: Mercenary before I'd ever consider a PS4 and Crysiszone: 4: Shadow Fail
if every developer had unlimited funds and could push the best graphics possible they would then likely ignore the vita and just say that they can use remote play.
That isn't the case, and especially with japanese developers they would rather just make early ps3 level projects because they are much cheaper, that would look to crappy to release as a full ps4 release, but require to much work to be a psn only release and thus would be right at home on the vita.
the niche jrpgs at the very least I don't see going anywhere.
plus portability is important in japan, remote play only works locally, lots of people use handhelds on trains.
if sony was smart though they would release the ps4 at $400 base, with a second model that is $500 that includes a vita to move both a ps4 and vita at the same time even if they lose a little extra on the bundle.
Killzone PS4 is not a Vita game, KZM will be the next KZ game they release and the one on Vita, KZ4 don't change this.
Also KZ Vita was a spinoff when they announced it,made by Cambridge people, it was never supposed to be the big next Killzone game.
corrosivefrost
Member
Guess they have a lot of work to do then. :3
I still don't think it changes anything.
It's simple:
(1)You own a Vita and want Killzone Mercenary.
(2)You will buy a Vita and Killzone Mercenary because you want a quality portable Killzone title.
(3)You will buy a PS4 and Killzone Shadow Fall because you want a next gen Killzone experience and are willing to shell out hundreds of dollars more to be an early adopter.
I don't think 3 necessarily precludes sales that would generate from 1 or 2.
10 out of 10 totos
Speaking of, what the hell is happening with Toto in this page? Did he get his account hacked?
corrosivefrost
Member
Glad to impress.
Don't get me wrong, I love Killzone, but that aesthetic they chose didn't seem to fit; the rifle looked way different than most of the weapons in the PS3 Killzone games and if I had only caught the trailer starting at the spot where the player was holding on to the rope, I seriously would have thought "WTF? another Crysis game already?" until the door opened and a Helghan popped out.
I'm sure I'll play it eventually; But I'm not in group 3 from my previous post.
--
I still can't believe they *LED* the conference off with Knack.
I would've thought some iconic Sony franchise would have been first up. Killzone (even though I'm criticizing it currently), Infamous (sorta, not as identifiable without Cole, as the aesthetic was different/new), or maybe something like Uncharted 4 or LBP3 or something that carries more weight than a new IP (which generated 0 interest for me).
Leona Lewis
Banned
It's all part of his master plan to endear himself to you all and then shank you when you're at your most vulnerable.
Singularity42
Member
That gave me a chuckle and the fact that during the presentation Capcom completely skipped over the Vita. Talked about ps2, psp, ps3, and then went to ps4
But we all knew Capcom hates the Vita so it didn't shock me. But the troll factor was pretty large.
To add I grabbed UTF and it's pretty fun, never played a Trails game before and it's been worth the Kaz PSN fun bucks that I spent on it
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Late to the party here, but what was the Vita XL Plus thing all about? I can't seem to find info on it. Is it a redesign?
I wish. It's not real as far as I'm aware. Would happily eat crow but I don't think I'll be that lucky.
Singularity42
Member
The remote play for all ps4 games has me hyped but...
Sony is going to have to prove that one to me before I actually believe it
Sony is going to have to prove that one to me before I actually believe it
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Ah. Well that makes things slightly less exciting. Oh well. Hopefully they'll reveal something at E3.
What I'm saying is that each successive Patapon sold more than the last in Japan.
Schobeleth
Member
So many crybabies in regards to that conference. I went in hoping they'd do a few things:
1) Show new games (they did)
2) Say they were going to finally push remote play on Vita for PS4 games (they did)
3) Say they were doing backwards compatibility, somehow. (they did)
4) Not skimp on overall system memory for the PS4 (they definitely didn't)
... that's about all I can think of now. We still have lots to look forward to people, Sony is at basically every game event round the year so of course they're not blowing their load tonight. Silly drama queens
1) Show new games (they did)
2) Say they were going to finally push remote play on Vita for PS4 games (they did)
3) Say they were doing backwards compatibility, somehow. (they did)
4) Not skimp on overall system memory for the PS4 (they definitely didn't)
... that's about all I can think of now. We still have lots to look forward to people, Sony is at basically every game event round the year so of course they're not blowing their load tonight. Silly drama queens
ThatStupidLion
Member
ok...so how many of you guys are looking forward to the social functions? a first i wasnt but now im stoked to share and watch with all you vitamuffins
!
!
Singularity42
Member
So many crybabies in regards to that conference. I went in hoping they'd do a few things:
1) Show new games (they did)
2) Say they were going to finally push remote play on Vita for PS4 games (they did)
3) Say they were doing backwards compatibility, somehow. (they did)
4) Not skimp on overall system memory for the PS4 (they definitely didn't)
... that's about all I can think of now. We still have lots to look forward to people, Sony is at basically every game event round the year so of course they're not blowing their load tonight. Silly drama queens
I agree, most people expected Sony to reveal everything tonight. This was just a taste like a good pusher does, give the waiting hordes a nibble, then a little more, then E3 drop a bomb or two, more hype throughout summer, and by launch you have people foaming at the mouth.
Sony has MS and Ninty to worry about showing their hand now would be stupid. All Sony did tonight was show that they have a really strong hand and that they are coming to play for keeps. I loved the show tonight, it didn't live up to the hype I had built up in my mind but I don't think Sony could have lived up to that level of hype anyways
ThatStupidLion
Member
was also pissed when they showed all the future content providers and hbo go wasnt one of them.....
DiscoJer
Member
What new Vita games did they show? I missed the conference
Nothing, it was purely a PS4 conference.
corrosivefrost
Member
I'm pretty sure if the DualShock 4 has a share button still when or if I finally buy a PS4, I will be opening the controller and disconnecting it.
I'm buying the console day one because of those. They excite me more than the software does.