Voice chat on the Switch will consist of a paid app on "smart" devices (your phone)

udivision said:
I think you have it backwards...
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Well shit, heres a picture you're right.

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This makes more sense now IMO. Playing on handheld mode you will put the cord in the port will give you mic/chat/game audio and all - however the phone will be used to invite friends to parties and games because the OS is rushed and half-baked and these interfaces aren't in it yet.


However, it still sucks for console players. Because if you have the switch in the dock - how will you get audio? Can you use the headphone jack while its docked and will it give you audio? If so, you're gonna need a long ass cord.
 
jdmonmou said:
So what if you're in public and want to use headphones on the Switch and use voice chat at the same time. I guess you got to slip the earbuds under your headphones?? Just a tacky solution.
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I have a feeling that the switch will wirelessly output the game's audio to the phone. That's the only way this would work.

Kind of like The Wii U Tablet's streaming but with a third party's (phone manufacturer) device.
 
jdmonmou said:
So what if you're in public and want to use headphones on the Switch and use voice chat at the same time. I guess you got to slip the earbuds under your headphones?? Just a tacky solution.
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You have two ears bro so mic earbuds in one ear and another separate headphone in the other.

I just.......what is going on inside Nintendo.
 
I was positive the phone app would be an alternative but reading that Reggie quote, what in the world. I guess they couldn't get a headphone jack in the joycon for docked play.
 
So I mean... That's your phone, right?

They literally took Sakurai's sardonic "solution" to no Brawl voice chat from 9 years ago and ran with it for their flagship system.

What the hell is going on with this thing?
 
udivision said:
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-switch-specs-confirmed/1100-6446904/

Yeah, here's visual confirmation.

The problem is that if you dock the switch, it shouldn't be right next to you. Which means that you wouldn't be able to use the voice chat party stuff I guess?
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Alright, so work w/ me here and see if this sounds reasonable, because now I sort of get the situation overall now cause I was confused about everything.

Nintendo has this horrible way of not doing the right job when it comes to translating which is beyond annoying. So, if this is some sort of theory/assumption, let's think the Switch was originally supposed to be out in Fall 2017 w/ all the current march titles as launch titles. Then comes Microsoft announcing Scorpio, so they were like oh shit let's move it earlier to not lose sales and such (which would make some sort of sense). This would then be a good reasoning as to why the launch is meh and why we haven't seen the UI.

If this was to be true, then that's why we've barely seen the UI, which is why they're not seeing many screenshots/preview of it or why they didn't show it off last night. The intention could of potentially been to have party chat but with the move from Fall back to March, they decided to find some temporary solution which is the app.
Because it seems like the intention was to have a party chat hense why it's coming the Fall? Maybe I'm over thinking it?
 
IDontBeatGames said:
Wait wait wait,

So if Kaelan has it backwards, it's an audio jack on the tablet/screen however there's no audio jack on the dock? If that's true and I have it right, whats the complaining going on besides the party stuff/voice chat stuff
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You can have an audio jack for headphone use, but it's not going to do the microphone any good if it doesn't support voice chat through the console. They really need to clear this up.

Kaelan said:
Well shit, heres a picture you're right.

This makes more sense now IMO. Playing on handheld mode you will put the cord in the port will give you mic/chat/game audio and all - however the phone will be used to invite friends to parties and games because the OS is rushed and half-baked and these interfaces aren't in it yet.
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Putting the headphone jack in one of the Joy Cons instead of the tablet would more or less fix that conundrum. Might make some motion controlled games awkward though.
 
GuitarAtomik said:
You can have an audio jack for headphone use, but it's not going to do the microphone any good if it doesn't support voice chat through the console. They really need to clear this up.
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Everything is confusing man, I agree. They really need to give us this information up front it makes no sense like why does everything have to be so complicated?
 
Wish people would stop banging on about discord etc. Its completely unacceptable that a games system does not have party chat option in 2017.
 
tim.mbp said:
Shoutout to Chris Kohler.
Would've been nice to have used the original Wired article.
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Added to OP.

alt27 said:
Wish people would stop banging on about discord etc. Its completely unacceptable that a games system does not have party chat option in 2017.
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I don't think those people are also saying that it is acceptable to not have a party chat option in 2017. They are pointing out the free app that is easy to use.
 
So am I correct in assuming that Nintendo went this phone route because they don't have a viable Bluetooth solution for docked/undocked play?
 
fluffydelusions said:
Wait...did he really say that? No words if true
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I was paraphrasing, but basically yes. Here's his exact quote: "Instead of having some sort of bulky gamer headset, you’ll be able to do it right off your smartphone, put in your earbuds that you use for your standard mobile device. We think that’s a pretty sweet solution."
 
They're doing this to protect kids. They're crazy paranoid about that. Remember them killing Swap Note (my favorite thing on 3DS)?
 
ForsakenLotus said:
So if I understand you correct, the cool scenario you propose is this:

Two players, presumably playing locally, each with their earbuds/headsets plugged into their phone or tablet so they can have their own audio source for their game...let's even assume that Nintendo are magicians and there isn't an echo because the person is in the same room (don't see how, but let's assume they figure it out). Honestly, that seems like an inferior local multiplayer experience to me. It disconnects you from the other player.

And this is assuming Nintendo does things that almost nobody expects them to even try to do (streaming game audio to smart device as well as chat, split screen gameplay with independent audio, etc.).

And this doesn't address the obvious flaws, like receiving calls or texts or notifications. Will you have to go dark while playing? Will you have to manually deselect certain notifications?

And honestly, I still don't see why this is superior even as an option to just plugging your headset up to the console, especially given it's behind a paywall.
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I might not have explained it clearly. I'm more thinking of something like if you and I were playing Splatoon split screen, but we were online voice chatting, then the person on the left side of the screen would only hear the part of the audio feed that would make sense for what is happening to the left side of the screen and right would only hear the right side appropriate stuff. I.e. The left player wouldn't hear shots being fired at the right side player.
 
D i Z said:
Most outlets are in flat out denial and spin. Refusing to see any of this. Maybe Monday. So far Giantbomb has been the only outlet to talk about it after their time with the system.
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Thank you for this. Was searching everywhere to see if they specifically had anything up earlier today, because I hate how phony every other stream comes off.
 
VanWinkle said:
I love how Reggie says, "We don't want you to have to use a bulky gaming headset. Just plug your earbuds into your phone and start chatting!" Uhh...why don't you just offer support for plugging those same earbuds into your SWITCH and allowing us to chat?
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Hahaha that was my same reaction. You know...like how the PS4 works.
 
Wait. That interview makes it sound like you can somehow actually play using your phone's internet connectivity while on the go. I mean, it's Nintendo and they didn't specifically say it, so no of course not (also that would be a lag fest).

But tbh his comments don't make any sense at all. How does having to use a phone to enable all online features make things EASIER? Nintendo's got me really worried.
 
Seems like nintendo just doesn't want to become modern. If I were in charge I would throw out all the japanese influence and bring in western engineers.
 
Crazy spin. Reggie should just say "We're adding an extra layer for voice chat by requiring a phone so we can filter out and protect young children."
 
N.Domixis said:
Seems like nintendo just doesn't want to become modern. If I were in charge I would throw out all the japanese influence and bring in western engineers.
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From their past and with this, it really gets you wondering what the fuck they have in store as their online paid solution. Like, we thought PSN when it started was bad, how is this thing going to be
 
alt27 said:
Wish people would stop banging on about discord etc. Its completely unacceptable that a games system does not have party chat option in 2017.
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Yeah it's pretty baffling that your platform can't even do voice chat natively in 2017 let alone party chat. People shouldn't have to use things like Discord or Skype.
 
N.Domixis said:
Seems like nintendo just doesn't want to become modern. If I were in charge I would throw out all the japanese influence and bring in western engineers.
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It's not the engineers who are a problem, it's the businesspeople telling the engineers what to do. The sane choices are all possible, Nintendo just isn't making them.
 
KingV said:
I might not have explained it clearly. I'm more thinking of something like if you and I were playing Splatoon split screen, but we were online voice chatting, then the person on the left side of the screen would only hear the part of the audio feed that would make sense for what is happening to the left side of the screen and right would only hear the right side appropriate stuff. I.e. The left player wouldn't hear shots being fired at the right side player.
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That is something that having voice chat integrated into the hardware and OS achieves and without the need for a separate device that just makes the process more cumbersome and almost surely has drawbacks not found in the former solution.

And again, let's not forget Nintendo's solution is an app that is behind a paywall.

This seems too crazy even for Nintendo. I have to believe there is something we all are missing. I'm unfortunately pretty cynical when it concerns Nintendo, but this is some next level messy design.
 
Warablo said:
So, I cant even voice chat since I dont have a smart phone.
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They need to address this. There are plenty of people that don't even have cell phones as wild as it might seem. Or if they do they don't have data since it might be a pay as you go phone. They might not even have wifi but just a wired setup in their homes. There are going to be people that simply won't have access to this app setup. So what's the alternative?

They need to explain this as well. Will this app be only iOS based locking out Android users? What about Windows Phone users? Will it work on tablets (iPads/Android/Kindle Fires)? iPods?
 
Audioboxer said:
I can't see them on the PDP site. If real it will depend what the connection is. If it's simply a stereo input don't be surprised if they're for... plugging into a phone lol.

Reggie made things appear very clear in that interview, so unless he literally has no idea like half of Nintendo I'd unfortunately take what he says as truth right now.
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"Plug in your headset to your system"

Wording implies it connects to the the actual Switch. Even if it's just a 3.5mm, there'd be no reason to plug it into the Switch if you can't use the mic on the Switch.

The fuck is going on.
 
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