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Walmart store gives man posing as Armored Car Driver all their money.
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Particle Physicist
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What? He is blaming Walmart. Walmart is not a person. Not saying they can't be a 'victim' but victim blaming generally refers to people. In this case, a company can very well have policies in place that lead to something like this.
SenorArdilla
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Can't believe it took this long for someone to try this. Can't believe it actually worked.
No, but you act as if this was an armed robbery.
People always had a soft spot for cunning trick thieves getting something from a rich, hated body.
When speaking of real world experience.
Two sided coin: theft of 75k bucks, cunning clever nonviolent execution
Two reactions.
AlimNassor
Banned
The two CO, the Asm or whoever signed, the SM, maybe even then front end supervisor are all fired. I'm sure gaf is fine and happy a bunch of people lost their jobs. It's not exactly easy to find another management job.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Honestly, I've considered doing something like this. Armored car guys wear uniforms (which makes them visually interchangeable) and follow set schedules (which makes them predictable). You show up in the right place, at the right time, in the right outfit, and you're 90% of the way there. You'd just have to go to different places on the route, around when they'd be expecting you, and keep going in until you find somewhere that is lax about ID.
BobTheFork
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Catch him, put him in jail...but I'm pretty impressed.
No guns or yelling, just planned ahead and took advantage of them.
Now go get him.
No guns or yelling, just planned ahead and took advantage of them.
Now go get him.
_illmatic_
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I truly feel sorry for the Wal-Mart employee, they're super fired. Just being off on a register a few times and you a usually out the door at retail jobs, but you just gave away $75k, whew.
I think most people, outside of the Supreme Court, would agree with this statement. But are you saying that corporations cannot be victims of certain crimes? They're allowed to own property,and when that property is damaged or stolen, are they not victims? I'm just not sure where you're going with this...
IISANDERII
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Regardless of how much they're paid, it doesn't absolve them of their failure to do their job correctly. Thus, they should be fired.
cuevas. PhD.
Member
At banks there's photos of people who can pick up money, how do you fuck that up? This person must try to stick square pegs into a circle hole.
CharlieDigital
Banned
How do they not have a super strict protocol about identification in this process?
I dont really see how though.
The money was willingly given.
Also, his clothes look nothing like the Loomis uniform. Let's say he didn't show any credentials or claimed to be a security officer at any time, would it still count as impersonating a security officer?
When you have to have a food drive for your own employees, protocol is probably gonna get thrown out the window.
AlimNassor
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Dude, walmart associates get paid pretty good now. $9 and soon to be $10, and with 30-50 cent raises. hourly Supervisors get paid $13-$15/hour, do you know how easy it is to get promoted? People act as if Walmart pays us nothing. Many of our long timers are making $20+/hour. As shitty as Walmart is we do get paid well enough to care.
Dude, Walmart will throw the book at him. We had a shoplifter pretend to be an associate and he took a bunch of items. He got caught and ended up doing a few years. he only stole a couple thousand.
cuevas. PhD.
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$9 - $10 is pretty good for a summer job.
They are in management and they didn't follow protocol. This time it was just about money and thankfully no one got hurt. Hopefully they hire more competent people next time.
Am I happy that they are fired? no, but I'm not sad either. They are fired for not doing their job.
Thats completely different though. This guy just walked in and was given money. I'm really interested on what ll happen if they catch him
LOL!!!!!!!!
Particle Physicist
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I don't know where people get this fallacious idea that because someone is given something in error it becomes their property. That has never been the case legally.
djplaeskool
Member
Theft by Deception
Dude better launder his money well before he starts paying off anything. Be smart, dude. I want this guy to get away with it, because catching him isn't gonna undo the fuckup and let the employees keep their jobs. Besides, it makes for a good story. Over/under on Sony picking up the movie rights? Couple of weeks?
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
Correct. It could even be argued that this was not theft, as the money was willingly given with Walmart's consent. One could argue that they are at fault for negligence.
He'll still get punished if caught though, I mean, the plan was essentially to take money that wasn't his.
He was given the money in error. He knew it was not his property, yet left with it. It's theft.
The Handsome Llama
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The guy wasn't just walking by the store when a Walmart Employee ran out and handing him a bag of cash. He went into the store with the intention of fraudulently taking however much cash he could from Walmart. This is the very definition of "larceny" in Oklahoma:
What this guy did was grand larceny:
And can net him 5 years in prison:
No, it's not correct. And there is absolutely no way, under the facts we know now, that this was not theft. There is no crime for "negligently allowing someone to steal your property," nor is that a cognizable defense to theft in any jurisdiction based upon English common law.
CarpeDeezNutz
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Yeah you're right but that sounds too old timey for me.
people saying that's not a lot of money, I looked up some stats and the avg bank robber nets like 4,330 so this guy had a big haul.
And as clever as this is, it comes at the expense of some people's jobs.
Sure, and some people have a hard spot for ugly people and treat them poorly. The fact that this is true does not make it okay.
Many hedge fund managers are far more clever in their theft, but you don't see people defending them. I suggest you be consistent: crime does not suddenly become okay because it happens to tickle your personal funny bone or because you don't personally like the victim.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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9/10
5 years appears to be the max for the larceny. I'm not sure if Oklahoma has any criminal statutes against impersonating an armored car driver, but that could be another offense he gets hit with if they do.
entremet
Member
I feel like I'm being trolled here, but on the off-chance you're serious: $9-10/hour in 2015 is still well into "fuck you, you're cheap and replaceable labor" territory. I was making $10.50/hr in 1996 doing technical support, which in 1996 had the same buying power as $15.91/hr does today source. An associate making $9.50 today has only marginally more spending power than the 1996 federal minimum wage ($6.27) source
$9-15 is squarely in "not paid enough to give a fuck" territory, especially near anything resembling a large city.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Lmao that's a weight vest. I own that weight vest. Did the manager not ask himself, "why would a bulletproof vest have a headphone jack. "
The Lamonster
Member
okay this guy is awesome
Is it really even robbery if they gave him the money?
Is it really even robbery if they gave him the money?
dave is ok
aztek is ok
But they are losing their jobs because of their own ineptitude. It's hard to feel bad for them
goldsoundz
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speculawyer
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Damn, that's so simple yet effective.
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