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Walmart store gives man posing as Armored Car Driver all their money.
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Clearly from the opinions of some, Walmart is an evil megacorp, so swindling $75,000 is totally a Robin Hood thing to do, and so, despite any logical reasoning, feels good, and that's enough moral reasoning to also be right.
Why is the correct redress for a corporation's shortcomings outright crime?
Why is the correct redress for a corporation's shortcomings outright crime?
mgs2master2
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Kinda reminds me of this story
Walmart store robbed by man dressed as a Walmart Employee
it only happened a few days ago
Walmart store robbed by man dressed as a Walmart Employee
it only happened a few days ago
First, the Waltons are very unlikely to be personally affected by this in significant ways; the employees may, however.
I also want to make sure you're aware that other people can also excuse criminal behavior in the same way in situations you might not approve of. For instance, I may think you're a jerk, because one time you said something mean to my sister. I'm sure you've said mean things; everyone has. If someone steals from you, I can just as readily say "I'm happy, he was a jerk anyway" based on my experience and emotional response.
If we start allowing people to excuse criminal behavior because they don't personally like the victims, then we can't shut the door as soon as that process starts working against us. I think a better approach is to consistently disapprove of criminal behavior, even when our personal emotional response is schadenfreude.
Okay, sorry if that was confusing. Yes, I definitely did not mean to suggest it was 100%. It's entirely within the realm of possibility that no one will be fired for this, for instance.
Well done hustle there. Sounds like it happened way easier than it should've been. That store is going to need to rethink its procedures.
It's the 21st century. Aren't there badges with RFID tags that can be scanned? I know that if I owned a store, I'd want such a system in place.
It's the 21st century. Aren't there badges with RFID tags that can be scanned? I know that if I owned a store, I'd want such a system in place.
ryutaro's mama
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What an odd series of posts by J10.
Praising a thief for stealing money through fraud isn't something to celebrate.
Praising a thief for stealing money through fraud isn't something to celebrate.
Yes, I want to emphasize how bad a precedent it sets to say "I don't personally like X, so it's okay if people steal from them."
It may feel good right now, but that exact line of reasoning can readily be turned against you in situations you may not like so much. Eventually someone or some company you do like will be violated. Someone will come and say, "I don't like that person/company, so I'm happy he's hurting." At that point, you will no longer be able to complain, because we've already established that it's fine to condone larceny as long as you don't like the victim.
Dusk Soldier
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I worked at a store that used armored pickup, but at our location the money was kept in a drop safe requiring two keys( one owned by us, one owned by them) to open. I would've figured that system was standard.
Ocean's $10.72
You're talking about two completely different sources of cash and two different levels of money. Rich people screwing over rich people isn't big on my list of concerns. It's the various market manipulation and scamming of people who can't afford it.
If Walmart fires anyone over this, it's due to their own negligence and need for a scapegoat, especially when people are coming into the thread with anecdotes about tons of stuff being stolen from stores all the time.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
This doesn't surprise me. When I worked with Walmart I was always surprised at how disorganized they were. I expected it at the store level, but was pretty shocked when I saw it went up to the corporate level as well. I'm not sure how they're still in business.
DoktorEvil
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Well, they pay their employees shit and they put mom and pops in the surrounding area out of business, so they can offset any potential losses from operating a crappy administrative corporate office.
The people who frequent Walmart keep it alive, because low prices and no other options.
What I don't understand is how a store was run so poorly that nobody bothered to ID the armored guard that walked away with that much money.
I'm guessing that the guard has some relationship with some employees or former employees at that specific Walmart. He had to have an idea that the store was ran so shit that something like this oversight could occur.
I wish them luck in finding jobs, but you do realize someone has to take the blame for this big of a fuckup, right?
This right here. The company is at fault sure, but no doubt the employee(s) will be held accountable. If anyone has ever been at a retailer when Loomis/Brinks/etc make a pickup, they park the vehicle right in front of the store. You also may notice that the retailer is provided a printout with all the names/pictures of the employees that work the route. (I've seen them at asset protection checkpoints and behind customer service desks... and they were posted in the back offices of my former employers) It shouldn't be an easy scheme to pull off if your employees had been properly trained.
Edit: never mind. Was already pointed out.
xDUMPWEEDx
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No one gives a fuck about Wal-Mart. They are a piece of shit corporation who treat their hard working employees like shit. This is why Wal-Mart isn't getting much sympathy here, combined with the fact that this guy stole from Wal-Mart directly, not from any of the employees.
No one is condoning felony grand theft.
Yeah. I imagine not every Joe or Jane Associate has access to the money safe or whatever the store uses. So there had to be an employee with access to the money, and they weren't trained on the procedure. It's either a shitty local management decision or a disregard for up-to-date training by regional or national corporate policy.
Delta Assault
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Robert DeNiro and Val Kilmer in HEAT were going about this all wrong.
Right, none of the money Wal-Mart makes is used to pay their employees or anything, but it's fine, lets just give Wal-Mart a reason to either have to shut down that store, pay employees less, cut hours, or something else.
Wal-Mart isn't the only victim here.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Honestly, I wouldn't bet on that. I could walk into a Walmart and just go anywhere inside. People might (might mind you, not would) ask me who I was and what I was doing there, but no one ever tried to vet me. Employees cared so little that I probably could have told them I was a new manager and they would have believed it, or just not given a shit and acted as if I was.
I think that a guy with a uniform like this walking in and saying "hey I'm here for the cash" could probably do this at almost any Walmart. Or, at least the could have. I'm sure things will be tighter for a while.
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