Grimløck;99136769 said:
sagely advice towards the end. the game should be about having fun with friends and other GAFfers, first and foremost. that's why the clan was set up in the first place, wasn't it? it should never feel like a chore, even if the core game is all about grinding. while i understand the want to be first on the leaderboards, it shouldn't be the crux of why we're playing this game. hell, the cicero crisis still has a week left for members to finish their runs.
personally, i feel like you need to slow your roll, mol. the need to be heavy-handed is unwarranted; calling other members "idiots" publicly is tactless. we all play for fun on an individual level, but we also want to contribute to the clan as a whole. how about showing your members some respect?
While I typically avoid these conversations I think I could help settle things down by adding my two cents to the situation.
You see back when the NeoGAF clan was first formed the guy who spent a little bit of platinum and got the Dojo started never logged in after that. Now for why or whatever his reason's were are none of my business, but the flip side to this is he was only player with Officer privileges. So basically no one else was able to add rooms/decorations to the Clan Dojo (even though he had this fancy document laying out the design he wanted for it). Neither could no one else invite players to the clan. Well eventually a Gaffer by the name of Sykotik was promoted with Officer privileges
So for a few weeks you only had one guy doing all the building/decorating and clan inviting. The guy who was our clan leader told Sykotik to upgrade the clan capacity which mulitplied the requirement on research by a factor of ten making it extremely difficult getting research done. Which this inevitably lead to Sykotik getting burnt out and just stopped playing Warframe altogether. So I asked our Clan Leader who was never on to promote me so I could keep the clan running. Well basically after I got promoted to do the same stuff Sykotik was doing I was starting to get burnt out of having to keep check of the activity of clan members trying to keep active members in and inactive members out, my ass was starting to get burnt out. Around this time Molnizzle was promoted to help with the busy stuff. Which while it did help me out alot the problem was is we still had a clan leader who was never online and had the only privileges that a Warlord does (which we needed).
So once I finally got a hold of the guy I politely asked him to transfer leadership to someone who would fit the bill. Because I surely as hell didn't want to be Warlord. Well Molnizzle was the guy that became the clan leader and I decided to be second-in-command. Molnizzle was the guy who spent alot of damn time tearing down and rebuilding the Clan Dojo. Without his time and devotion our Clan Dojo would still be a little turd floating around the edge of the Origin System.
So the whole fiasco of actually getting the leadership of the clan transferred to a person who would actually be a active leader and getting the Clan Dojo in the up and running condition it is now was a pain in the ass to say the least.
Obviously Molnizzle and myself didn't have to contribute the time and effort that we did to keep the clan from stagnating, but we just wanted to. Its kind of like a guy who makes a replica of Helms Deep with abunch of Lego's is completely unnecessary, but if it gets trampled on he is going to be upset.
I don't know Gold_Loot and I never really played with the guy, so I can't speak for him. However I have played with Molnizzle alot. I don't remember exactly what was said in the text chat, but I do remember ShikiAoi stated staying near machine defending it. And Daggr kept getting a clipping problem and was falling through the geometry of the map. Molnizzle being upset is not completely without reason. I mean hell I did what I could to help contribute with Jadeleafs yesterday by trying to help Blaise_Hun and ShikiAoi. And its not too pleasing to think the time I devoted to help out was wasted.
The point here is Molnizzle being upset is not completely unjustifiable. He probably should have checked in with them to make sure they knew what to do, but the point is no one likes devoting time and effort only for it to be wasted. So lets all shut the hell up before we all get banned.