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Warhammer Online, The Official Thread of Destruction vs Order

Won

Member
I was wondering what the point of the Greenskin CE bonus item was. But one random click later it looks like that spears are one-hand items and my SH still can wear something in my left hand. And since I always use my bow I now carry a dwarven head on my back into battle. :lol

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Azwethinkweiz said:
Yet they didn't feel there were too many roots. I swear to god the amount of roots on order side is downright criminal. Thank god I just got my root immunity skill.
Msg me like crazy if im online.. I tend to not see messages well
 

JoeMartin

Member
Azwethinkweiz said:
Yet they didn't feel there were too many roots. I swear to god the amount of roots on order side is downright criminal. Thank god I just got my root immunity skill.

And by downright criminal you mean exactly the same amount as there are on destruction?
 
JoeMartin said:
And by downright criminal you mean exactly the same amount as there are on destruction?

Possibly. I have no idea since our classes never use them. They're too busy trying to top the damage meters.
 
I would love to play against destro on your server, on Averheim every sorcerer and squig herder abuses the fact that roots don't give immunity like they're supposed to (currently) that it's almost exploitish.
 

Kinitari

Black Canada Mafia
Hit level 15, and am really starting to hit my stride, leveling frequently, doing really good in the RvR (Almost always top 10, usually top 5) and PQing it up like crazy. The low frequency of anything but green bags is getting me down, but other than that so far it's going great. Made a few friends through all the PQing and getting geared out! Got turned into a chicken for the first time too when I went back to Tier 1 to level my Apothecary skill... finally realize what all those fast ass bunnies running around I see from time to time were.
 
Greatsword is a very fun class, after playing shit loads of melee chars in beta and live the combat on this one just flows. Could be the animations also, they're really nice.

I'd still drop it to play a reiksguard/knight of the BS any day though.
 

Tamanon

Banned
Rolled my first dwarf tonight, a runepriest. On one hand, their scenario is popping almost as soon as you get in the queue it starts. On the other hand, it's such an annoying battlefield to me, exacerbted by the demographics where there's basically tanks, ranged and healers up against ranged/healer/tanks + squigs:( Still a fun class, more effective healer thus far than my archmage, I like that there are more immediate heals.
 

Ferrio

Banned
Teknopathetic said:
I would love to play against destro on your server, on Averheim every sorcerer and squig herder abuses the fact that roots don't give immunity like they're supposed to (currently) that it's almost exploitish.

Heh, it's hilarious. I play on both side, and I hear both sides "OH xxx is cheap cause they blah blah"

Currently destro bitching that bright wizard's root doesn't break on damage.
 
Teknopathetic said:
I would love to play against destro on your server, on Averheim every sorcerer and squig herder abuses the fact that roots don't give immunity like they're supposed to (currently) that it's almost exploitish.

Roots breaks correctly now. It was BW's that had the impossible to break root. Everyone was talking about it on WH alliance for a few days last week. Everyone confirmed the BW one was broken and the others were broken too but still broke but not as often.


My Squig Herder hit 21... I destroy squishies in RvR.. its pretty awesome.. But I'm about to hit Tier 3 RvR and I'm sure the first few lvls will suck hard.

I kick in my Tier 2 morale ability and 1 second plinks.. and I'm critting Rune Priests / Bright Wizards / Witch Hunters / Engineers / Shadow Warriors for about 600-800 dmg and can get 3 shots in 7 seconds.

Its awesome.

Horned Squig got a knock back too now too.. cant wait to see him knock people off randomly now :p
 
"Roots breaks correctly now. It was BW's that had the impossible to break root. Everyone was talking about it on WH alliance for a few days last week. Everyone confirmed the BW one was broken and the others were broken too but still broke but not as often."


I'm not talking about roots breaking on damage, I'm talking about roots not adding immunity.
 

Ferrio

Banned
Teknopathetic said:
"Roots breaks correctly now. It was BW's that had the impossible to break root. Everyone was talking about it on WH alliance for a few days last week. Everyone confirmed the BW one was broken and the others were broken too but still broke but not as often."


I'm not talking about roots breaking on damage, I'm talking about roots not adding immunity.


Ya I know. But it's funny... each side bitches about how cheap the other side is. It's ridiculous...
 
"Ya I know. But it's funny... each side bitches about how cheap the other side is. It's ridiculous..."

Who's bitching about one side being cheaper than the other? I couldn't tell you what BWs are doing on my side. I don't even see that many BWs in scenarios in T3 to begin with. My problem is with roots in general. I can't say "Oh those darn BWs are chain rooting me" because they aren't.
 

Ferrio

Banned
Teknopathetic said:
"Ya I know. But it's funny... each side bitches about how cheap the other side is. It's ridiculous..."

Who's bitching about one side being cheaper than the other? I couldn't tell you what BWs are doing on my side. I don't even see that many BWs in scenarios in T3 to begin with. My problem is with roots in general. I can't say "Oh those darn BWs are chain rooting me" because they aren't.


I would love to play against destro on your server, on Averheim every sorcerer and squig herder abuses the fact that roots don't give immunity like they're supposed to (currently) that it's almost exploitish.

Somehow I read bitching in that... guess I was wrong. Sorry.
 
"Somehow I read bitching in that... guess I was wrong. Sorry."

I'm definitely bitching, but I'm not saying Order is a pack of saints either, especially considering all of the knocking back into the talabec dam river I saw while it was bugged.
 

Dina

Member
My damaging/HEALING (yes that is intentional) hybrid called the Archmage is kind of falling flat on his face in tier 2, and it doesn't seem like it's going to improve in tier 3. I'm thinking of rolling an Engineer alongside him, just for the kick of it. I realise the Engineer is not a damaging powerhouse in itself, but the CC they supposedly get at later levels kicks ass.

Any Engi's here? And if there are, how do you like them so far?
 

Won

Member
Well if the Engineer is anything like the Magus than I will say he is a fun class to play, but you will be pretty useless for a long time.
 

Won

Member
eznark said:
I'm a level 14 warrior priest. Any ideas on the best place to get a helm?

The first non-drop helm is level 15. There are several quests I think, just hit up wardb.com for it.
Or you wait till level 16 and just get the helm from the renown gear merchant.
But both are statsless of course.
 

Atrophis

Member
They need to sort out renown gear. Its the worse gear in the game currently o_O Why the fuck does my bright wizard need willpower on his pvp gear? :lol
 

TheExodu5

Banned
So how's the game? I'm a WoW player who recently hit 70 (about 3 weeks ago). I realized that what I liked about WoW end game the most was PvP, so Warhammer has me intrigued. The fact that it makes all the PvE elements easy (quest markers, etc...) interests me as well.

I might pick it up after work. How does the whole Faction vs. Faction thing work? I can't find anything that says it. If I chose a faction, am I in the same world as everyone else, or am I only playing with the opposing faction? Can someone clarify this?
 
Won said:
I was wondering what the point of the Greenskin CE bonus item was. But one random click later it looks like that spears are one-hand items and my SH still can wear something in my left hand. And since I always use my bow I now carry a dwarven head on my back into battle. :lol

Thats awesome. The dwarf CE bonus item is a large ring with orc teeth and goblin ears on it that can be held in the left hand.
 

Sullen

Member
Teknopathetic said:
Who's bitching about one side being cheaper than the other? I couldn't tell you what BWs are doing on my side. I don't even see that many BWs in scenarios in T3 to begin with. My problem is with roots in general. I can't say "Oh those darn BWs are chain rooting me" because they aren't.


Hm, BW's are all over in T3 scenarios on Averheim. You probably dont notice them as much because you aren't getting dotted and then dying to them 5 seconds later. :lol I dont really feel any class is too OP in the game, but BW's are by far the class feared most by destro in T3.

I generally don't find roots to be that annoying, what I do find annoying is knockback in tor anroc. Order definitely has an advantage there because of the class composition that usually shows up on that map. Destro usually has an abundance of dark elves there, which have no knockback at that point. On the other hand, High Elves have several methods of knockback at that point.
 

Chris R

Member
Azwethinkweiz said:
Haha, you think T2 is going to remedy that?
Good point :(

Seriously, every time I go into any instanced rvr 95% of the order healing comes from getting your level up to 8 and then the healing that comes after that :lol
 

eznark

Banned
TheExodu5 said:
So how's the game? I'm a WoW player who recently hit 70 (about 3 weeks ago). I realized that what I liked about WoW end game the most was PvP, so Warhammer has me intrigued. The fact that it makes all the PvE elements easy (quest markers, etc...) interests me as well.

I might pick it up after work. How does the whole Faction vs. Faction thing work? I can't find anything that says it. If I chose a faction, am I in the same world as everyone else, or am I only playing with the opposing faction? Can someone clarify this?

I'm loving it. I played to like 45 in WoW when it came out but got pretty bored and didn't want to have to schedule bricks of time to accomplish something in the game. With the focus on PvP and RvR and public quests you can literally boot up the game for 20 minutes and do something meaningful.

The built in quest tracker is also awesome, except that I don't think I've read any of the accompanying story lines,so despite being level 14, I still have no clue what is going on story wise.
 

Macattk15

Member
TheExodu5 said:
So how's the game? I'm a WoW player who recently hit 70 (about 3 weeks ago). I realized that what I liked about WoW end game the most was PvP, so Warhammer has me intrigued. The fact that it makes all the PvE elements easy (quest markers, etc...) interests me as well.

I might pick it up after work. How does the whole Faction vs. Faction thing work? I can't find anything that says it. If I chose a faction, am I in the same world as everyone else, or am I only playing with the opposing faction? Can someone clarify this?

Yeah you're in the same world as everyone else on that server. If you choose Order, you'll obviously start in the Order lands and move on into the contested lands ... just as WoW kinda did.

As for an overview of all the classes? I guess Warhammer's website gives a good rundown of what the classes do / expected to do. Either that or you can read forums such as Warhammer Alliance.

And for some reason, the PvP in this game is 400x more fun than WoW. My order guild on Wolfenheim is the top guild on the server .... and we only have 50 members. Rank 12 and rolling people left and right in scenarios.
 

mr stroke

Member
eznark said:
I'm loving it. I played to like 45 in WoW when it came out but got pretty bored and didn't want to have to schedule bricks of time to accomplish something in the game. With the focus on PvP and RvR and public quests you can literally boot up the game for 20 minutes and do something meaningful.

The built in quest tracker is also awesome, except that I don't think I've read any of the accompanying story lines,so despite being level 14, I still have no clue what is going on story wise.

So jumping right into a RvR server will let me play CTF,PVP,etc, right away or is it set up like WOW or AOC where I can't get into good PVP stuff until much later in the game? I got board with AOC fast because PVP stuff was really limited in general and anything good wasn't until later on in the game and I didn't want to fight bats and aligators for 60 hours until I could reach something fun.
 

Macattk15

Member
PvP is fun at level 1. Though I recommened leveling up a bit to have access to some skills.

Queue up with the button near your minimap for a scenario (BG) and bam, you're in. You get your stats leveled to level 8 (not your skills though) so you can compete and be useful.

T1 Scenario's there are 3 ... they last from levels 1-11.
T2 also 3 .... levels 11-22
T3 has 6 .... 21-32

And I don't know from there on out :) But it's fun. There are different types of BG's.
 

Ferrio

Banned
mr stroke said:
So jumping right into a RvR server will let me play CTF,PVP,etc, right away or is it set up like WOW or AOC where I can't get into good PVP stuff until much later in the game? I got board with AOC fast because PVP stuff was really limited in general and anything good wasn't until later on in the game and I didn't want to fight bats and aligators for 60 hours until I could reach something fun.

From lvl 1 you can pvp.

You'll automatically be leveled up to 8, unfortunately you aren't given any skills. So it's kinda boring. I'd say wait till like lvl 5 (really quick) until you jump into PvP or you'll just be useless and most likely boring on your part.
 

Tamanon

Banned
Eh, I jump in the queues as soon as I can at level 1, just to try and keep my renoun rank and rank as close as possible. But yeah, RvRing at level 1 blows, especially as a rune priest!:lol
 

eznark

Banned
While it may be kind of boring without the higher level skills, PvP makes leveling fast as hell. Most fun way to grind ever.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Macattk15 said:
Yeah you're in the same world as everyone else on that server. If you choose Order, you'll obviously start in the Order lands and move on into the contested lands ... just as WoW kinda did.

As for an overview of all the classes? I guess Warhammer's website gives a good rundown of what the classes do / expected to do. Either that or you can read forums such as Warhammer Alliance.

And for some reason, the PvP in this game is 400x more fun than WoW. My order guild on Wolfenheim is the top guild on the server .... and we only have 50 members. Rank 12 and rolling people left and right in scenarios.

What server are you in? Any more room in the guild? I just bought the game on a whim. :lol

edit: oh Wolfenheim
 

Crayon Shinchan

Aquafina Fanboy
Anyone else playing a swordmaster? Or even a tank character?

How you finding it?

I'm getting my butt kicked more then I'd like... but I can be quite effective with good healing behind me. Any good tips on PVPing with one?

I get the feeling that, if I play to my role, I should excel (i.e. playing as a tank)... but the reality is, I don't think many others know how to play their role (i.e. healing me!), so it kinda all falls apart.
 

Elbrain

Suckin' dicks since '66
He went from my rank 20 shadow warrior and rerolled a White Lion right now I am rank 15, my god it's so much fun. Going behind enemy lines trying to wreck the healers and the casters and just seeing the scatter oh man it's awesome. Rerolled because in my server there are a fuckton of Healers and Ranged dps on the order side, so I went mdps to spice things up.
 

Tamanon

Banned
Elbrain said:
He went from my rank 20 shadow warrior and rerolled a White Lion right now I am rank 15, my god it's so much fun. Going behind enemy lines trying to wreck the healers and the casters and just seeing the scatter oh man it's awesome. Rerolled because in my server there are a fuckton of Healers and Ranged dps on the order side, so I went mdps to spice things up.

It's even better as a Witch Hunter since once you hit rank 10 you can just appear in their midst, heh.
 

Elbrain

Suckin' dicks since '66
Tamanon said:
It's even better as a Witch Hunter since once you hit rank 10 you can just appear in their midst, heh.

Yeah I know me and my friend, he rolled Witch hunter are going in and wrecking shit he appears behind them and I sprint to them they are fucked once we do that.
 

Cheeto

Member
Macattk15 said:
PvP is fun at level 1. Though I recommened leveling up a bit to have access to some skills.

Queue up with the button near your minimap for a scenario (BG) and bam, you're in. You get your stats leveled to level 8 (not your skills though) so you can compete and be useful.

T1 Scenario's there are 3 ... they last from levels 1-11.
T2 also 3 .... levels 11-22
T3 has 6 .... 21-32

And I don't know from there on out :) But it's fun. There are different types of BG's.
How do you do the other scenarios? When I hit the button I only get Nordenwatch.
 

Tamanon

Banned
Cheeto said:
How do you do the other scenarios? When I hit the button I only get Nordenwatch.

You have to fly to the other lands. It's the only reason I'm thinking of flying to Elven lands with my dwarf. I hate the Dwarf scenario, but love Khaine's embrace.
 

Cheeto

Member
Tamanon said:
You have to fly to the other lands. It's the only reason I'm thinking of flying to Elven lands with my dwarf. I hate the Dwarf scenario, but love Khaine's embrace.
Oh that explains it... I haven't found a flight master yet. Thanks.
 

TheExodu5

Banned
Wait...only Empire vs. Chaos have a capital city? Doesn't that mean that if I chose a Dwarf I'll never get to experience a captial city sacking?
 
TheExodu5 said:
Wait...only Empire vs. Chaos have a capital city? Doesn't that mean that if I chose a Dwarf I'll never get to experience a captial city sacking?
You can visit those cities whenever you want even if you arent of that race.. that technically is your city for now.

They will add the other cities in future free patches (Free according to 1up interviews with Marc Jacobs)
 

TheExodu5

Banned
TurtleSnatcher said:
You can visit those cities whenever you want even if you arent of that race.. that technically is your city for now.

They will add the other cities in future free patches (Free according to 1up interviews with Marc Jacobs)

Sounds good.

Anoter minor balance gripe just looking at the manual, comes from Elves vs. Dark Elves. Elves don't have a tank class, while Dark Elves have all 4 classes.
 

Ferrio

Banned
TheExodu5 said:
Sounds good.

Anoter minor balance gripe just looking at the manual, comes from Elves vs. Dark Elves. Elves don't have a tank class, while Dark Elves have all 4 classes.

Dark elves don't have a tank class. Elves have swordmaster which is a tank.
 

Tamanon

Banned
TheExodu5 said:
Sounds good.

Anoter minor balance gripe just looking at the manual, comes from Elves vs. Dark Elves. Elves don't have a tank class, while Dark Elves have all 4 classes.

It's the opposite. All races are going to have 4 classes supposedly, just patched in later.
 
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