Oh yeah. Sniper rifles were great too. Assaults ended up doing more damage for me but those characters had higher combat initiative (or whatever was the stat that defined the number of turns you get).
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Wasteland 2 |OT| Explode 'em like a Blood Sausage
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Gamma Ray Blaster is crazy broken. On Burst fire that kills virtually every enemy in one shot. Honey Badgers, dead. 300+ HP Heavy Gunners, dead, Super huge mecha dudes, dead. Everyone else, dead. It's beyond over powered. It pretty much alone took out the Scorpitron and made mince meat out of the energy canons.
I'm not that far into the game, but (despite my other criticisms about the battles) I'm not seeing this. Rifles are powerful, but SMGs outperform them in close-range single-target damage output, shotguns have higher damage against groups and energy weapons work much better against heavily armed targets.
As for INT, after reading the attribute descriptions for all attributes and thinking about it during character creation I made 4 characters with 8 or 10 int and 1 luck each. Haven't regretted it so far. Certainly not a game where "rather lucky than good" applies
Trust me man Gamma Ray Blaster > Assault Rifles >>> everything else in the game soon enough.
Absolutely the best gun in the game. I don't have a huge problem with it being so good because it isn't exactly handed to your party and you can't purchase it.
afternoon delight
Member
I too have very much enjoyed the box, it was a funny feeling actually unboxing a new PC game...
Quick question, is the Steam code printed on our manuals the same as was sent out earlier? Have a friend I'd love to gift this to but I'm unsure if backers received two product keys.
Quick question, is the Steam code printed on our manuals the same as was sent out earlier? Have a friend I'd love to gift this to but I'm unsure if backers received two product keys.
Check your backer portal -are the keys the same or not?
I got two keys on my portal site, but I'm CE tier.
For those that got their boxes, what's the map like? What material is it printed on?
Dunkelgrau
Member
]blacky[;135715861 said:
Is there any other way to get rid of the juvies in Highpool than
giving them cigarets?
And has the prisoner-quest any influence on the election?
Maybe when I get better shotguns, my impression will be like your. Hopefully.
In later half of the game, I think sniper rifles showing its diminished use. It still deal high damage, especially with that high critical rate. But enemies in California tends to be numerous in number, which makes the assault rifles by its burst shot attack damage much better for dealing against enemy with superiority in number.
Unless you happen to get some really high tier armor early on enemy penetration will be eating through whatever armor you have effectively making it worthless. Later on you have to to question if you want armor on or not because of energy weapons.
Fantastapotamus
Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
Not really. Honestly all their other games are....mediocre at best.
Edit: Well, some people like Bard's Tale. I didn't really.
Yea about that...I don't want to spoil but you might want to have a secondary healer towards the end.
Edit: One who isn't Lexicanum.
Shake Appeal
Member
I really have to finish this. Curse you, Football Manager.
(My secret hope is that inXile will keep patching it, the mod tools will let the community fix or improve a hundred other things, and a year or 18 months from now there'll be a shiny and improved Wasteland 2 to replay.)
(My secret hope is that inXile will keep patching it, the mod tools will let the community fix or improve a hundred other things, and a year or 18 months from now there'll be a shiny and improved Wasteland 2 to replay.)
OK also I just remembered that you want one person with one point in computer science too. Just one point is all you need. It's for a door at the end.
A Black Falcon
Member
So, my kickstarter boxed copy of the game FINALLY arrived yesterday! It's been way too long, the game released (digitally) over a month ago and I backed it back in 2012, but it's here at long last. Of course the game's been available on Steam, and I was given the key for that, but I wanted the boxed copy that I'd backed... and I have it, finally. Took more than long enough.
As for the game, I haven't really played it much yet, but it seems good. I can comment on the box, though. The box cover is the Wasteland 2 art, which is fantastic. The box is kind of medium-size for a cardboard box -- it's full-sized, but thinner than most later '90s PC game boxes were. Still, it's a 'big box' for sure, and looks nice. I do kind of wish that it pretended to be a real box, though, and not just a backer reward -- all that's on the back is a 'thanks for backing the game' message in six languages, three screenshots, and some Windows/Mac/Linux logos. There's no PR copy on the back describing the game, and no system requirements on the box! It should at least have that, it's a PC game... oh well. It's still pretty awesome. Inside, there's a ~97 page spiral-bound manual, a cloth map of the first region (of the two in the game), and the game (on two DVDs) in a nice cardboard/plastic case. The manual isn't the thickest, but it's all in full color, which is great, and the spiral bound is very cool; reminds me of the BGII manual, which also was spiral bound, albeit a lot thicker of course. I hope that the manual covers everything despite being slightly thin for a classic-style PC RPG manual. Full color makes up for some of that, though. And yeah, the map's cool as well. Great thing to have!
So yeah, I'm satisfied overall. Other boxed-tier kickstarters want a lot more than the $50 this one cost for the box; this was one of the earlier major gaming kickstarters, and they didn't quite have the costs of making boxed down I presume. For $50, it was definitely worth it! Of course though, you can't buy this now; it's backer-only. The game does have a retail version for sale, but that's just in the usual thick-DVD cases PC games come in today. Apparently it has two variants though, one with no paper manual and a thinner case, and a SE version or something with a manual. Though given that physical PC games are so uncommon outside of Europe, I doubt it'd be too easy to find... and it's got nothing on the large cardboard-box copy I have, that's for sure!
As for the game, I haven't really played it much yet, but it seems good. I can comment on the box, though. The box cover is the Wasteland 2 art, which is fantastic. The box is kind of medium-size for a cardboard box -- it's full-sized, but thinner than most later '90s PC game boxes were. Still, it's a 'big box' for sure, and looks nice. I do kind of wish that it pretended to be a real box, though, and not just a backer reward -- all that's on the back is a 'thanks for backing the game' message in six languages, three screenshots, and some Windows/Mac/Linux logos. There's no PR copy on the back describing the game, and no system requirements on the box! It should at least have that, it's a PC game... oh well. It's still pretty awesome. Inside, there's a ~97 page spiral-bound manual, a cloth map of the first region (of the two in the game), and the game (on two DVDs) in a nice cardboard/plastic case. The manual isn't the thickest, but it's all in full color, which is great, and the spiral bound is very cool; reminds me of the BGII manual, which also was spiral bound, albeit a lot thicker of course. I hope that the manual covers everything despite being slightly thin for a classic-style PC RPG manual. Full color makes up for some of that, though. And yeah, the map's cool as well. Great thing to have!
So yeah, I'm satisfied overall. Other boxed-tier kickstarters want a lot more than the $50 this one cost for the box; this was one of the earlier major gaming kickstarters, and they didn't quite have the costs of making boxed down I presume. For $50, it was definitely worth it! Of course though, you can't buy this now; it's backer-only. The game does have a retail version for sale, but that's just in the usual thick-DVD cases PC games come in today. Apparently it has two variants though, one with no paper manual and a thinner case, and a SE version or something with a manual. Though given that physical PC games are so uncommon outside of Europe, I doubt it'd be too easy to find... and it's got nothing on the large cardboard-box copy I have, that's for sure!
I see.
4 armor that you can get at the beginning could help. later on you have to decide if wear them or not and it makes a big difference in both cases in most of the fights so I don't know how that is meaningless.
No it won't force you, there's a very very obvious confirmation required for you before the point of no return.
I had the same trouble, but it's not a bug. Just boneheaded icon selection.
The cure looks like something else common, but I don't remember what offhand (maybe pain pills?). You'll have to tooltip to find it.
If you can scroll back in the chat log, you can probably find which of your rangers was talking to him
and likely got the cure.
Fallout-NL
Member
Yeah it looks like the icon used for anitbiotics I think.
Didn't make any difference though. The guy still started shooting after letting me in.
Antibiotics sounds right, which is probably why I glossed over them. They have been useful one time in 20 hours of playing...
Huh, that's surprising. That didn't happen to me. I even
killed all the people at the farm the first time I was at the prison, when they aggro'd me for freeing the pigs. I *did* use a bunch of speech skills in the dialogue with the head guy, though.
DiscoJer
Member
Really? When I did it, he wanted to talk to me, but I wouldn't have any of that and had all my guys shoot him. Which felt quite good, given all the crap he's done.
Screaming_Gremlin
My QB is a Dick and my coach is a Nutt
I just finished my first play through of the game. Overall, I would have to say that I am really happy with how it turned out and I am glad that I backed the Kickstarter.
- While it isn't the greatest looking game, I liked the general atmosphere and setting. The story was pretty good, as was the voice acting. Well, with the exception of Matthias. I can't say that I liked his voice at all.
- I really wish they had more character portraits. I was fine importing my own for my party, but there was a severe lack for the NPCs. It especially stood out for me at one part where the text is describing the guy I am meeting as fat, with a huge beard and with two white stripes. Then I look over at the portrait and it shows a guy who looks like he is about to starve to death, also with no beard. Sort of throws you out of the moment.
- I have seem some comments that people didn't like the LA/California part as much as the first half of the game. I am curious if that is because they didn't like the setting or missions as much, or if it is just because they had been playing for so long at that point they just were ready for it to finish up. Personally, it was my favorite part of the game. I loved the Mannerites and that whole area. I also liked the aspect of establishing the Desert Rangers, with new S.O.S. calls popping up every ten minutes.
- I loved the introduction of the Skorpitron. That was a fun battle.
- While overall the combat system was pretty fun, it did seem a bit simple after playing Divinity. They also need to balance a few of the weaker weapons to bring them in line with the rifles and sniper weapons.
Even having only played South Park, Divinity, and now Wasteland 2, this is has been a fantastic year for RPGs. I still need to play the expansion for Shadowrun, as well as M&M X before the end of the year. Plus I just saw that Dead State is going to release on December 4th. Not sure how I am going to have time to play them all before the GAF GOTY thread.
- While it isn't the greatest looking game, I liked the general atmosphere and setting. The story was pretty good, as was the voice acting. Well, with the exception of Matthias. I can't say that I liked his voice at all.
- I really wish they had more character portraits. I was fine importing my own for my party, but there was a severe lack for the NPCs. It especially stood out for me at one part where the text is describing the guy I am meeting as fat, with a huge beard and with two white stripes. Then I look over at the portrait and it shows a guy who looks like he is about to starve to death, also with no beard. Sort of throws you out of the moment.
- I have seem some comments that people didn't like the LA/California part as much as the first half of the game. I am curious if that is because they didn't like the setting or missions as much, or if it is just because they had been playing for so long at that point they just were ready for it to finish up. Personally, it was my favorite part of the game. I loved the Mannerites and that whole area. I also liked the aspect of establishing the Desert Rangers, with new S.O.S. calls popping up every ten minutes.
- I loved the introduction of the Skorpitron. That was a fun battle.
- While overall the combat system was pretty fun, it did seem a bit simple after playing Divinity. They also need to balance a few of the weaker weapons to bring them in line with the rifles and sniper weapons.
Even having only played South Park, Divinity, and now Wasteland 2, this is has been a fantastic year for RPGs. I still need to play the expansion for Shadowrun, as well as M&M X before the end of the year. Plus I just saw that Dead State is going to release on December 4th. Not sure how I am going to have time to play them all before the GAF GOTY thread.
You may want to toss Legend of Grimrock 2 in your "to play" list as well.
DiscoJer
Member
I just shot it a bunch of times with assault rifles on burst. That does a lot of damage, at least if you have the best assault rifles. I thought it pretty easy because it doesn't have an energy weapon, so if your guys have armor on, it won't hurt too much.
I ended up having all my guys with assault rifles, except for Vulture's Cry who had the .50 anti-material sniper rifle. If you mod them they have great range, are very accurate, and don't jam. Firing a burst will often drop a guy in one shot and basically never, ever miss (unless they are real close)
I hear brawling can be useful.
I guess the scorpitron isn't really the problem, but all the trash mobs you have to deal with first. So far I've been focusing on killing Dungan first because he seems to do the most damage to my squad. I think I might need better gear as well. Were can i buy the best weapons for end game?
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
Brawling's only REALLY good with a high str character, as it scales with your level and your strength stat.
With a mediocre str stat (and/or if you have low speed/luck to run around and get crits on everything) it can be tough to do as a transition build.
I'd say have at least 1 dedicated energy user (or 2 if you have the gamma ray) because it takes a while to find weapons to 'catch up', while due to armor, pretty much every laser weapon will be hitting that 2.2 multiplier when you first touch down in
LA
Have fun with the
20 odd robots piling on you, especially if you have Rose or Lexicaneum in the party!
Screaming_Gremlin
My QB is a Dick and my coach is a Nutt
Yea I had them both too. I was like :/ Luckily my Gamma Ray Blaster and assault rifle user carried me.
Whoa, how could this happened?
Need some help with the Hollywood/Church quest....starting to annoy me
Going for peace. Killed Heidi and the Synth and then talked to McDade as instructed. Took the secret passage and killed Jones and his crew (for some reason the merchants attacked me as well). Nothing happened, went outside and killed the guys along with cannon. Again, nothing happens. The only time Veronica, McDade and Fealty appear in the observatory is if I free the penitents. If I do that they attack me.......what gives? I even went through and cleared out the guys at the tower and the guys by the entrance (the guys you had to fight as part of the gauntlet
Do I need to reload a save game from before I started the Hollywood quest line?
Do I need to reload a save game from before I started the Hollywood quest line?
Vax fom Wasteland 1 is in a shipping crate somewhere. I never looked for him. He's one of those NPCs who tags along with you, but can't control