"Bullshit build" was running on top of the line PC parts before PS4 and Xbox One were close to being finalized. Once the actual hardware was out there, coupled with the game having to ship on last gen hardware as well, you get a game that will never reach it's initial target build.
Watch_Dogs downgradeaton confirmed
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Always-honest
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Yeah that difference is huge. It,s like they forgot to stream a shitload of textures on the bridge too.
Still, the rest of the gameplay looked fine to me.
Stealthcobra
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Looking for to how a lot of u will have your foot in your mouth
GHG
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Yep, something's amiss with that section. Either things have failed to load into the scene or we are looking at a clip of the PS3/360 version.
nelsonroyale
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I wonder what they are thinking? That wouldnt even look good on PS3...
Personally I agree that there is hyperbole flying around, but the downgrade does seem to be significant. The issue is that the game doesn't look very visually impressive anymore. Infact, I kind of agree with those saying ACIV looks more impressive in some ways, though I can see the similarities. Considering the size of the dev this should be near the top of the class visually, but is looking like it is near the bottom of the barrel. That doesn't mean it doesnt mostly look decent per se (visuals in general these days generally look good), just pretty bad considering what others are doing. Lighting in particular looks high contrast but flat. The volumetric lighting before looked like what you would expect at this stage of the gen. This looks a bit flat...
hydragonwarrior
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From the (shitty quality) video:
Seriously getting an N64 game vibe.
I think a prob with this pic is the unfortunate placement of the 3d map over the main character, which makes him look like a chunk of jagged polygons.
And yea that's a very low res pic lol
Always-honest
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You're right. They probably have someone's cousin iMovie-ing these trailers together
.XANDER CAGE
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a bit bigger (and higher quality) version of the gif in the OP?
Yikes.
From the (shitty quality) video:
Seriously getting an N64 game vibe.
That looks like a PS2 game.
CosmicGroinPull
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Downgrade confirmed? Really? I don't see any updates in the OP.
If true.... Wow, no words.
If true.... Wow, no words.
Daffy Duck
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Well if anything I am going to wait a week to get this as something just seems a ltitle bit odd about all this!
Pop
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There's also the complete lack of lighting.
Admiral Woofington
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It's easy to judge us and say 'wait for the finished version'
But after seeing those trailers and gameplay videos, you cannot blame us. That looks like shit compared to what it used to. They took time to polish my ass, they took time to make it run. They promised too much and couldn't deliver. I seriously hope that's the ps3 version (not officially confirmed besides random PS twitter as far as I hear).
But after seeing those trailers and gameplay videos, you cannot blame us. That looks like shit compared to what it used to. They took time to polish my ass, they took time to make it run. They promised too much and couldn't deliver. I seriously hope that's the ps3 version (not officially confirmed besides random PS twitter as far as I hear).
Always-honest
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No, but i can see why you say that. A lot is the compression though. It kills all the detail in a scene that allreday has little detail. And the particular lighting in that room and time of day is flat. It looks better in motion in the HD stream, but still... HD heavily compressed.
It's weird ... They release these insane bullshots that can't be matched and then they release gameplay segments that actually harm the game.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I'm baffled in this day and age of social and peer reviews/comments/feedback, people still care about official industry 'coverage' at all
a bit bigger (and higher quality) version of the gif in the OP?
If anyone thinks that original pretty version of Watch_Dogs will look like this downgraded crap on Xbone/PS4, he ether has serious problems, or he purposefully wants to create a fake controversy.
edit - PC/nextgen version has HQ Corn Building on the right after bridge, oldgen version has some low-poly generic building.
larrybird33
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Wow.... just got home from work, found this thread and my excitement for this game is entirely dissipated.
Fair enough, I now remember hearing about that. I guess I should rephrase it to "consumers would have received it better at launch than in May." I could be wrong, and I hope that's the case, but we shall have to wait and see.
The worst part is that this game is giving me a total Driver 3 vibe.
Daffy Duck
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Watch Dogs 2 will be amazing.
hmm, i never jumped into the downgrade bandwagon, but damn the textures look shockingly flat @ 00:57 - 1:04 in that gamespot video
Oh my why is downgrade always a thing with a certain publisher/developers games
All websites and got the identical b-roll. To me it looks like Ubisfot provided both nextgen and oldgen footage in it.
Lethtonium
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I wonder if anyone from Ubisoft is going to comment on this since it's front page news and features on Reddit. It's getting a decent amount of exposure, and if one of the big sites picks it up we might actually get a response.
It's a different bridge I think. They didn't replace the buildings.
The layout of the streets is totally different, too.
If anyone thinks that original pretty version of Watch_Dogs will look like this downgraded crap on Xbone/PS4, he ether has serious problems, or he purposefully wants to create a fake controversy.
edit - PC/nextgen version has HQ Corn Building on the right after bridge, oldgen version has some low-poly generic building.
If that's the case, Ubi should fire their marketing people. Why on earth would anyone want to display last gen versions in a trailer?
Then again, we know they did it in the Aisha Tyler trailer...
A Serious Man
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The lighting took a massive step backwards. Like, off a cliff.
AHA-Lambda
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I thought it was, genuinely didn't realise that was Watch Dogs at first :/
Hard to believe that this was the original reveal.
awesome how he kicks the taxi and it's totally demolished at the end of this gif
Lethtonium
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And the reflections. I can't see any in the "updated" version, at all. Maybe it's the low quality of the GIF or something, but I am disappointed.
Mr. PlayStation
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Here's hoping those flat textures and lighting was all PS3/360 stuff. That E3 2013 PS4 demo of Watch Dogs looked incredible, even DF mentioned that it came very close to the original reveal at E3 2012
Gaf please make some Gifs out of this PS4 E3 2013 demo, it looked mighty impressive and it's still the closest to E3 2012 reveal. Please someone here do it
Mr. PlayStation
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I agree , if it's been a launch game it would have sold a ton.
If anyone thinks that original pretty version of Watch_Dogs will look like this downgraded crap on Xbone/PS4, he ether has serious problems, or he purposefully wants to create a fake controversy.
edit - PC/nextgen version has HQ Corn Building on the right after bridge, oldgen version has some low-poly generic building.
LOL Man! those are the Marina Towers. And for sure they got a downgrade..
I really thought game was coming along fine, but the art direction has definitely shifted in the trailer.. Outdoor lighting seems flat with less contrast , less realistism, probably less occlusion or reflections.. Textures look nice I think, and indoor lighting for the style is fine. Is all this 360 footage tho.? I think so.also do not like aiden's newer face.
also I see some things like daylight scenes already were not too hot graphically back in august http://youtu.be/degSKAbs1AA
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Deleted member 10571
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I'm sorry, but who is this and why should we care? I might have missed something here, but Google gave me nothing - some videogame media guy?
Edit: Oh, found him. N4G?
Insider.
Mr. PlayStation
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He's an industry insider, has a ton of contacts from mid level to upper level staff within game studios across the globe.
BurnOutBrighter
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Good. They'll learn that they can't pull this shit on us.
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