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[Setsuna]

I wonder why turning on this content fixes stuttering.

I think its because the settings in one of the config files lowers texture resolution independent of what you set it in game.

So while you believe you are running ultra textures you are actually running high or medium which causes the elimination of stutter.

This may not be correct though

 

[Derp]

Which file is the "super-scret E3 mode" in?

I also need to know this.

 

[elektrixx]

eh... the side mission stuff is just filler though. after six mainline assassin's creed games of the same sort of pointless busywork, i just wasn't compelled to waste my time like that for some mediocre upgrade rewards.

I don't think I'll do the same thing in a sequel, but I want to do a lot in this game because it's a good time investment that will be appreciated when the Watch Dogs series continues.

If I never played the first Assassin's Creed I'd be regretting it. You have to get in before the original game is outdated and you're out of the loop.

 

[Nzyme32]

I think its because the settings in one of the config files lowers texture resolution independent of what you set it in game.

So while you believe you are running ultra textures you are actually running high or medium which causes the elimination of stutter.

This may not be correct though

That's not correct. Several people early claimed that it is because the mod has changed the way the textures are streamed, which is why people with 2gb cards are reporting performance improvements as well as stutter reduction

 

[Objectively Bad Opinion]

That's not correct. Several people early claimed that it is because the mod has changed the way the textures are streamed, which is why people with 2gb cards are reporting performance improvements as well as stutter reduction

And the side effect is shimmering in distant textures?

Is there a version without these stutter improvements? You know, for people who bought good GPUs.

 

[Tizoc]

This isn't real is it? It's gotta be a joke/someone just tossed it in there when they made the snapshot

 

[Cygnus]

plain daylight graphics still look like shit.

Man how high our standards have become.

 

[Jibbed]

Anddddddd we're on IGN, sweet. I'm name-dropped too.

How I haven't died at the hands of a Ubisoft assassin yet is beyond me.

 

[Alej]

This thread is cringe worthy with all those conspiracy theories, or FUD about consoles.

But what remains? Watch Dogs is a game lacking polish and it's a result of the development hell it passed through.

It overblown his original budget by a rather important order of magnitude (even Ubi doesn't really want to acknowledge his budget) and Ubi rushed the project to the market by outsourcing (130 to 600 people working on it) a ton of things in the last months (i really think they even gave up on the franchise as a series at some point prior to the release). What you have now is the result of those events. You feel it's a downgrade, you are right in a way but it would imply that the game was running like E3 2012 at a time, although it clearly wasn't.

Then, about consoles, those effects introduced by the mod aren't undoable on X1 and even less so on PS4. If you dont believe this you obviously are blind/have an agenda. There is nothing fantastic about it that forbid those features to exist on consoles, even more when you take into account the reduced resolution on consoles (a result of the development hell too) and the fact that their CPUs have less and less API overhead (not even taking into account the massive GPU compute advantage they could have in theory right now).

This game has just been rushed to the market, without any polish. The ship has sailed long ago for Ubi. Everything showed in this thread is the result of that, not consoles or conspiracy theories.

 

[Setsuna]

That's not correct. Several people early claimed that it is because the mod has changed the way the textures are streamed, which is why people with 2gb cards are reporting performance improvements as well as stutter reduction

So why doesnt it there be a performance for those with 3 or 6GB of Vram?

 

[Jibbed]

So why doesnt it there be a performance for those with 3 or 6GB of Vram?

People with 2GB or less had shit performance. People with 3GB+ had meh performance.

Now everyone has meh performance, but for those 2GB and below people it's a godsend.

 

[Mengy]

This isn't real is it? It's gotta be a joke/someone just tossed it in there when they made the snapshot

No, it's very real. However, the context of it is not what the majority of this thread thinks. Basically the function call this comment is in is some kind of texture resolution graphic function. Another comment further up the function talks about how for the Xbox they need to play with some trickery in order to display things properly, and then a little bit down is this comment "This is PC, who cares", which is nothing more than a sarcastic comment stating that because PC's can do anything the devs simply don't have to play with texture paring down, on PC they simply display them at full resolution/clarity.

So, it's actually a sarcastic compliment to PC's, not the dig on how PC's are worthless like most of this thread would like to make it out to be.

 

[Tizoc]

Anddddddd we're on IGN, sweet. I'm name-dropped too.

How I haven't died at the hands of a Ubisoft assassin yet is beyond me.

All their male assassins are busy doing mo-cap and body mo-cap for AC Unity and they can't afford for female assassins :V

Spoiler

This sounded a lot better in my head >_>;

 

[Jibbed]

All their male assassins are busy doing mo-cap and body mo-cap for AC Unity and they can't afford for female assassins :V

Spoiler

This sounded a lot better in my head >_>;

7/10 for effort, at least.

 

[Ghazi]

You're kidding right? The console versions don't even use the unmodded ultra settings.

A lot of decent PCs can't seem to run unmodded ultra settings consistently. Seems like it's due to shoddy optimization, rather than graphical prowess, which is why I think it could be possible.

 

[Spaghetti]

I don't think I'll do the same thing in a sequel, but I want to do a lot in this game because it's a good time investment that will be appreciated when the Watch Dogs series continues.

If I never played the first Assassin's Creed I'd be regretting it. You have to get in before the original game is outdated and you're out of the loop.

i'm not entirely sure what you mean by good time investment.

from a personal perspective i've been burned long enough by pointless side activities in ubisoft games as an artificial content extender that i don't see the point in even trying them in a new ip, seeing how watch dogs already suffered from bad mission design seemingly copied and pasted from assassins creed even in the main story content. it's like ubisoft have one mode of game design and only really alter the superficial elements to distinguish one franchise from another.

 

[Tizoc]

No, it's very real. However, the context of it is not what the majority of this thread thinks. Basically the function call this comment is in is some kind of texture resolution graphic function. Another comment further up the function talks about how for the Xbox they need to play with some trickery in order to display things properly, and then a little bit down is this comment "This is PC, who cares", which is nothing more than a sarcastic comment stating that because PC's can do anything the devs simply don't have to play with texture paring down, on PC they simply display them at full resolution/clarity.

So, it's actually a sarcastic compliment to PC's, not the dig on how PC's are worthless like most of this thread would like to make it out to be.

Thanks for clearing it up, and I do confess I treated it as the latter in your last setence ^^;

 

[GavinUK86]

Anddddddd we're on IGN, sweet. I'm name-dropped too.

How I haven't died at the hands of a Ubisoft assassin yet is beyond me.

You made it, you're famous. Being name-dropped on IGN is about as good as it gets.. right?

 

[Kabouter]

Tried this fix this morning, runs great and a really nice boost in visuals. I still think the game is really lacklustre looking in most parts of the city during clear weather in daytime though. I don't know what they could really do about that.

 

[Hip Hop]

So I added the mod files and it looks great and runs amazingly well. Aside from either changing "Quality" to HIGH or ULTRA on the GamerProfile document, is there anything else I'm supposed to tinker with, or does the mod files do all the work?

I have a 2gb GTX 670, could I bump up the Textures to Ultra now, or am I still limited to high?

 

[blastprocessor]

Honestly l don't see anything that can't be done on PS4. The DOF is some of those screenshots are just well overdone.

 

[Akai__]

Not sure, if I got the real v0.7 of this? The previous download included a patch.fat, patch.dat and a read me file and now all I see is 3 folders with camera settings?!

Is there a guide, that explains how to use these things, like I'm a 6 years old? I'm really confused.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Lot of Iraqi Information Minister posts overnight.

PROTECT THE HIVE

No, it's very real. However, the context of it is not what the majority of this thread thinks. Basically the function call this comment is in is some kind of texture resolution graphic function. Another comment further up the function talks about how for the Xbox they need to play with some trickery in order to display things properly, and then a little bit down is this comment "This is PC, who cares", which is nothing more than a sarcastic comment stating that because PC's can do anything the devs simply don't have to play with texture paring down, on PC they simply display them at full resolution/clarity.

So, it's actually a sarcastic compliment to PC's, not the dig on how PC's are worthless like most of this thread would like to make it out to be.

In context yeah, it's just an explanation for why they do a bunch of complex things then suddenly have a default case which does nothing. However, removed from that context and put within the context of this discussion it's just very, very funny.

 

[oxidax]

Well Damn! What the hell happened to Ubi? They had an amazing game and decided to lock all those amazing things..for what?

I guess ill wait until everything is unlocked. Bad Ubi.

 

[drexplora]

this mod is truth!
Game actually has me hooked now

Any chance that Ubi left this all of these tweakable options open on purpose?

Also very curious as to how Ubi is gonna handle this mod, as it contradicts pretty much everything they ever said in regards to a downgrade....

Curious what this next patch will be.

 

[Betta Lines]

Not sure, if I got the real v0.7 of this? The previous download included a patch.fat, patch.dat and a read me file and now all I see is 3 folders with camera settings?!

Is there a guide, that explains how to use these things, like I'm a 6 years old? I'm really confused.

Each folder contains those two DAT/FAT files, the only difference is the camera position.

 

[lmbotiva]

some dude at guru3d is saying that UBI is rolling out a 5GB patch for the game

 

[captainnapalm]

I think the best thing about this mod, aside from the night shadows/lights and the bloom (when its not overdone) is that I can now use msaax4 without stuttering. Don't ask me how that's possible.

 

[R_Deckard]

People with 2GB or less had shit performance. People with 3GB+ had meh performance.

Now everyone has meh performance, but for those 2GB and below people it's a godsend.

Its not, I have 2gb 7870 and this "mod" offers 0 improvement and only takes away FPS in the night rain now, how can it the texture streaming and LOD process is well within the core of the engine/game, the ini changes applied here are just the same effect as a tick box in a GUI and then re running the engine/game again to see.

The game was unfinished/over budget as said above and i have said before, these features look poor are unfinished and add Nothing to the game.

Bloom and DoF are present in the game just paired back to a more normal level, the shadows and rain lighting looks unfinished and glitchy and overall with the super high DoF and inyour face bloom turned off you would and cannot see a difference between this version and standard and it offers nothing on performance at all in my tests.

 

[Morphine_OD]

I think its because the settings in one of the config files lowers texture resolution independent of what you set it in game.

So while you believe you are running ultra textures you are actually running high or medium which causes the elimination of stutter.

This may not be correct though

Hardly, I think it changes the distance at which the top quality textures are loaded.

offers nothing on performance at all in my tests.

Maybe it's your problem. It could be your apparently high threshold of noticeable visual improvements, which doesn't physically allow you to perceive the godsend this mod really is.

 

[danwarb]

This thread is cringe worthy with all those conspiracy theories, or FUD about consoles.

But what remains? Watch Dogs is a game lacking polish and it's a result of the development hell it passed through.

It overblown his original budget by a rather important order of magnitude (even Ubi doesn't really want to acknowledge his budget) and Ubi rushed the project to the market by outsourcing (130 to 600 people working on it) a ton of things in the last months (i really think they even gave up on the franchise as a series at some point prior to the release). What you have now is the result of those events. You feel it's a downgrade, you are right in a way but it would imply that the game was running like E3 2012 at a time, although it clearly wasn't.

Then, about consoles, those effects introduced by the mod aren't undoable on X1 and even less so on PS4. If you dont believe this you obviously are blind/have an agenda. There is nothing fantastic about it that forbid those features to exist on consoles, even more when you take into account the reduced resolution on consoles (a result of the development hell too) and the fact that their CPUs have less and less API overhead (not even taking into account the massive GPU compute advantage they could have in theory right now).

This game has just been rushed to the market, without any polish. The ship has sailed long ago for Ubi. Everything showed in this thread is the result of that, not consoles or conspiracy theories.

Consoles don't have any CPU or GPU compute advantage. A couple of i5/i7 cores are a match for those 8 core CPUs. The Jaguar cores are about half as capable and half the clock speed on top. Really though, GPU compute is already more of a thing on PC. With PhysX and so on. Plus with much more capable GPUs.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Placebo effect, meet fanboy confirmation bias. It seems you have much to discuss.

 

[drexplora]

Its not, I have 2gb 7870 and this "mod" offers 0 improvement and only takes away FPS in the night rain now, how can it the texture streaming and LOD process is well within the core of the engine/game, the ini changes applied here are just the same effect as a tick box in a GUI and then re running the engine/game again to see.

The game was unfinished/over budget as said above and i have said before, these features look poor are unfinished and add Nothing to the game.

Bloom and DoF are present in the game just paired back to a more normal level, the shadows and rain lighting looks unfinished and glitchy and overall with the super high DoF and inyour face bloom turned off you would and cannot see a difference between this version and standard and it offers nothing on performance at all in my tests.

Try it again after a few updates!

Hardly, I think it changes the distance at which the top quality textures are loaded.



Maybe it's your problem. It could be your apparently high threshold of noticeable visual improvements, which doesn't physically allow you to perceive the godsend this mod really is.

Think its got something to do with removed mip levels, due to the way the game loads its textures which was causing the poor performance.

 

[Garcia]

This game has just been rushed to the market, without any polish. The ship has sailed long ago for Ubi. Everything showed in this thread is the result of that, not consoles or conspiracy theories.

Really, dude? So you haven't been following this thread. The improvements are in the game. There is no conspiracy going on; common sense (plus Ubisoft's secrecy and denial about this issue) point towards an agenda just to make the PC version look worse in order to lower the abysmal gap between versions,

 

[danielcw]

No, it's very real.

If it is real, where does it come from?
I have not really followed this thread before, so forgive me if I missed it, please

 

[danwarb]

Have there been any AMD versus Nvidia comparisons with this? It looks like many of those noting little/no improvement have AMD GPUs.

 

[jim2point0]

Just to keep things in perspective...

This pic is maximum possible in game settings WITH theworsemod (1920x1080).

So yeah as nice as it looks when we get fancy and downsample, play with the fov, freecam etc... plain daylight graphics still look like shit.

Downsampling only cleans up the aliasing. The only way I know to take a downsampled shot is because it looks good @ 2560x1440 (which runs 50-60 fps for me).

I'm constantly running into scenarios where I want to take a screenshot, and that's indicative of a game that looks good (to me, of course). So I'm really enjoying it. Both playing and shooting. Though cop chases with helicopters are starting to piss me off.

 

[Delt31]

So I added the mod files and it looks great and runs amazingly well. Aside from either changing "Quality" to HIGH or ULTRA on the GamerProfile document, is there anything else I'm supposed to tinker with, or does the mod files do all the work?

I have a 2gb GTX 670, could I bump up the Textures to Ultra now, or am I still limited to high?

I would like to know this as well. Do we just leave the settings as is in the game if we change the xml to high or ultra? I'm assuming by putting ultra it defaults ultra to everything?

 

[captainnapalm]

I would like to know this as well. Do we just leave the settings as is in the game if we change the xml to high or ultra? I'm assuming by putting ultra it defaults ultra to everything?

I'm not too clear on the xml file either. I have to turn off DoF when I go in game because it's too much for me, but that reverts the xml back to saying "_runtime" instead of "ultra". Still, all the other mod additions seem to remain, so what's the point of the edit in the first place?

 

[Mengy]

If it is real, where does it come from?
I have not really followed this thread before, so forgive me if I missed it, please

Read my post from above:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=116964815&postcount=1621

It's simply a comment line from a function call in the game that some coder from Ubisoft wrote. Anyone with the PC version can open the file and see it plain as day.

IMHO the effects labeled E3 effects that are disabled and hidden from the UI is much, MUCH more terrible.

 

[IronRinn]

Tried this for a bit last night. Still can't run the ultra textures without it being a stuttery, sub-60 mess but setting them to high gives me a consistent 60 fps, so it's worth it just for that.

 

[R_Deckard]

Placebo effect, meet fanboy confirmation bias. It seems you have much to discuss.

Yep, I think nail on the head!

 

[ekim]

some dude at guru3d is saying that UBI is rolling out a 5GB patch for the game

all plats?

 

[drexplora]

in the xml aint there no ultra setting for textures?
low=med med=high, high=ultra?

no patch, prolly just redownloading game files.

 

[Dire]

Ubisoft responds:

https://twitter.com/UbiTessa/status/478622295662297088

Tessa Vilyn
@Beeelow i recall replying saying that the game was not downgraded, i still stick to that yes.

She's an Ubi PR type.

 

[_S4MUR4I_]

Read my post from above:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=116964815&postcount=1621

It's simply a comment line from a function call in the game that some coder from Ubisoft wrote. Anyone with the PC version can open the file and see it plain as day.

IMHO the effects labeled E3 effects that are disabled and hidden from the UI is much, MUCH more terrible.

I've just made it.

It's there.

Hope to Ivory Tower guys are seeing all this, because i'm very hyped with The Crew.

EDIT: How-to here.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Yep, I think nail on the head!

 

[drexplora]

Ubisoft responds:



She's an Ubi PR type.

its all a matter of perspective

 

[prag16]

Ubisoft responds:



She's an Ubi PR type.

She's either full of shit or has no eyes...

 

[Aretak]

She's either full of shit

She works in PR. That's part of the job description.