There's definitely some slight screen tearing during driving, but it's really hard to spot so it's a non issue. Slowdown occurs during high speed chases with a few police cars tailing you. The frame rate dips just a little where it's noticeable, but it doesn't affect your control at all.
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Watch_Dogs |OT| PS4 would probably melt trying to do this
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There's definitely some slight screen tearing during driving, but it's really hard to spot so it's a non issue. Slowdown occurs during high speed chases with a few police cars tailing you. The frame rate dips just a little where it's noticeable, but it doesn't affect your control at all.
I cleared all the ctOS towers and hack-points last night.
Really great fun - mix of stealth, hacking and the occasional gun-fight. The game really allows dynamic scenarios to develop based on what you choose to do.
e.g. there is one ctOS center on an island up north - you can swim across, then hack into the cameras, blow a fuse to attract a guy with a camera, hack his camera as he walks up to the center, and then hack into the center just before he turns back.
I'm enjoying it, and had really no hype or exposure beforehand.
edit - and I'm really enjoying the driving - once you get the hang of it, and use the handbrake for screeching turns, its actually quite good
Really great fun - mix of stealth, hacking and the occasional gun-fight. The game really allows dynamic scenarios to develop based on what you choose to do.
e.g. there is one ctOS center on an island up north - you can swim across, then hack into the cameras, blow a fuse to attract a guy with a camera, hack his camera as he walks up to the center, and then hack into the center just before he turns back.
I'm enjoying it, and had really no hype or exposure beforehand.
edit - and I'm really enjoying the driving - once you get the hang of it, and use the handbrake for screeching turns, its actually quite good
SJRB
Gold Member
If only you had something you could use to stop them. A real head scratcher, this one.
flaxknuckles
Member
I didn't get that hack ATM upgrade because the game has enough UI popping up in my face without the civilians having blue boxes over their heads too. Unless that only shows up when you take out the profiler, I'm keeping mine the way it is.
Liferebooted
Banned
On the PS4 its amazing how different driving is depending on the view. Default view its worst than GTA which I thought was impossible yet in COCKpit view its Forza 5 accurate.
So how is ps4 better?
Hacking is overrated.
flaxknuckles
Member
It's like people forget they have a gun, can blow fuses on the wall, get into a car and lightly tap the dude so he falls but doesn't die, etc. The running speed is faster than the npcs also.
don't want to scare the whiney ass civilians who report you for sneezing too loud.
Liferebooted
Banned
Digital Foundry.
hands in pockets
I've gotten so good at the crimes, now I can smack my baton in their face before they manage to run away.
Fried Food
Banned
Am I missing something with these criminal convoys? I'm getting killed instantly when I try to "knock down" the person. Very frustrating
Seems like you have to get them to get out of the car when there's not too many other bad guys around. That and some luck
Windom Earle
Member
Despite the fact that the PC version is superior, wtf is that shit?
Fried Food
Banned
There's always guys around and they call for backup
Well then I guess just luck, lol. I've only done one but struggled a few times before I was able to get him alone
The convoys actually takes some planning be it last minute. Use the grenade launcher to take out the cover vehicles and even use a grenade against the main vehicle. Once the guy gets out of the car or truck take them out but just be sure to use some sort of cover at all times. It isn't that hard.
Why does it bother people so much? They chose this style of play to push people into being more aware of their environment and using that to their advantage. NPCs can't shoot so doesn't really bother me.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
It takes a lifetime to get any hacking matchups and each time it's someone who has very strong defense. Wtf am I supposed to do here.
I just wanna hack some noob.
I just wanna hack some noob.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Keyboard
Cop Cars just seem to good at following though, and even if I go and manage to hide that cTOS thing comes up and I get detected again.
XANDER CAGE
Member
So the game looks alright on PS4, but I have to ask the people going all out on PC - is the insane bokeh from the early E3 demos in the game at all? Did they even try to fudge it?
Yes, NPCs CAN shoot while driving. It's maddening when you're given a motorcycle to chase someone in a car with a full squad of guys driving behind you busting caps into your fresh ass.
Just fresh off a frustrating mission, so a little heated about it.
A few short thoughts:
The gameplay is incredibly enjoyable. It's obviously formulaic, but what it does new is meaningful enough for me. The game does a great job at establishing a sense of place and atmosphere all based around a singular theme. It's quality stuff, and you can tell a lot of money went into it. The storytelling may be a bit cliched...but it's serviceable and the characters are fun. Overall, the modern day Assassin's Creed vibe that some people pointed out seems warranted. They definitely feel like they're cut from the same cloth both aesthetically and in terms of gameplay.
The Chicago setting as well as the protagonist's Batman voice also make the game feel a bit like a Chris Nolan movie, if you're into that sort of thing.
Some random pros and cons:
+This is the best open world city I've experienced since Sleeping Dogs. Dripping with atmosphere. Los Santos wasn't doing it for me since I'm not a huge fan of the SoCal feel (I live there, so I'm allowed to criticize)... but Watch Dogs nails Chicago. I'm not saying it's an objectively better game than GTAV as far as the open world is concerned (in fact, I might argue the opposite), but it's certainly my preference.
+It reminds me of Assassins Creed Brotherhood and Arkham City with regards to how often the side-quests take you off the beaten path. I'd actually say Watch Dogs is even stronger than those as far as variety is concerned.
+Hacking never gets old.
+Presentation does look and feel nextgen to me. Your mileage may vary.
-The horn sounds stick out like a sore thumb. There's maybe one or two "horns" in the entire game, and they both sound like they were recorded in a garage. I honk a lot in open world games, so maybe others haven't noticed. It bumps me even more considering how slick the rest of the presentation is. Nitpicking, but whatever.
-This is the worst in-car soundtrack I've ever heard in an open world game. There's like maybe 1 or 2 decent songs. I turn the radio off, which is fortunate since the sound design is 99 percent great. The score is very good as well. I wish there was a way to just stream that from behind the wheel.
Anyway, enjoying my time so far. My expectations may have been a bit lowered, but overall the game's exceeding my expectations. I'm probably only a third of the way through, though.
Edit:
One more big negative for me: The online just flat out doesn't work for me on PS4. I end up waiting for ages just to connect to someone... Usually I quit out after 5 or so minutes.
The gameplay is incredibly enjoyable. It's obviously formulaic, but what it does new is meaningful enough for me. The game does a great job at establishing a sense of place and atmosphere all based around a singular theme. It's quality stuff, and you can tell a lot of money went into it. The storytelling may be a bit cliched...but it's serviceable and the characters are fun. Overall, the modern day Assassin's Creed vibe that some people pointed out seems warranted. They definitely feel like they're cut from the same cloth both aesthetically and in terms of gameplay.
The Chicago setting as well as the protagonist's Batman voice also make the game feel a bit like a Chris Nolan movie, if you're into that sort of thing.
Some random pros and cons:
+This is the best open world city I've experienced since Sleeping Dogs. Dripping with atmosphere. Los Santos wasn't doing it for me since I'm not a huge fan of the SoCal feel (I live there, so I'm allowed to criticize)... but Watch Dogs nails Chicago. I'm not saying it's an objectively better game than GTAV as far as the open world is concerned (in fact, I might argue the opposite), but it's certainly my preference.
+It reminds me of Assassins Creed Brotherhood and Arkham City with regards to how often the side-quests take you off the beaten path. I'd actually say Watch Dogs is even stronger than those as far as variety is concerned.
+Hacking never gets old.
+Presentation does look and feel nextgen to me. Your mileage may vary.
-The horn sounds stick out like a sore thumb. There's maybe one or two "horns" in the entire game, and they both sound like they were recorded in a garage. I honk a lot in open world games, so maybe others haven't noticed. It bumps me even more considering how slick the rest of the presentation is. Nitpicking, but whatever.
-This is the worst in-car soundtrack I've ever heard in an open world game. There's like maybe 1 or 2 decent songs. I turn the radio off, which is fortunate since the sound design is 99 percent great. The score is very good as well. I wish there was a way to just stream that from behind the wheel.
Anyway, enjoying my time so far. My expectations may have been a bit lowered, but overall the game's exceeding my expectations. I'm probably only a third of the way through, though.
Edit:
One more big negative for me: The online just flat out doesn't work for me on PS4. I end up waiting for ages just to connect to someone... Usually I quit out after 5 or so minutes.
Unless you're on PC, no - there are no HUD related options in the game's options menu. With it being an Ubisoft game and multiplatform, I highly doubt they're going to patch in any options either.
I'll promise to eat something if I'm proven wrong.
Story mode, should be when you're almost done with Act I.
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Deleted member 80556
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I don't really miss it, it pushes me into using what the devs actually wanted me to use: hacks!
NPC can shoot you if they have extra passengers with guns.
Played for around 8 hours. The majority of that time has been spent invading, being invaded, doing side quests, accessing towers, and exploring.
I don't usually like open world games, but this place feels alive enough and has enough optional content so far that I seem to forget the time.
I love the NPC AI. The way they move and interact, the random crimes, the way they step out of their vehicles and lament after crashing at lights, it's a really good effort at making the place feel alive.
I think the game looks great. Playing on high with Shadows on Ultra and AA off, and it looks very good. Daylight is the game's weakest time visually, but it's far from atrocious at the setting I'm playing on. Night time can look stunning, it definitely has a next-gen feel at times. Downgrade sure, but we're not being starved here.
The driving was annoying at first, but I'm getting the hang of it. The faster sports cars and bikes are great, the rest are probably a little off. I love how fluid it is to hack lights and bollards as you drive, it makes for some incredibly satisfying and heart pounding moments.
Aiden's movement and shooting are great. On PC, I had to adjust the fov slightly but now he feels really responsive. I especially like riding the cameras. Headshots might be a little too easy, though, and I only use bullet time if I get caught in a life or death situation.
Stealth movement is pure Blacklist, which isn't a bad thing. Would have been cool to keep more aspects from that game like vents and horizontal pipes maybe to add to the stealth options.
I really like how hacking is so simplistic. This is a video game after all, and the ability to hack things fluidly in a fight or dangerous situation make the game feel quite fresh. Little things like using a camera to flank an enemy and detonate his grenade or the vent beneath him while you stay hidden really add to the combat, for example.
The ctOS towers are a lot more fun than. I thought they'd be, I like the platform puzzle elements even if they're incredibly easy. That some are housed in security stations adds a neat variation.
Invasions are great, and I love how seamless they are. I've not found then repetitive yet as each player has been different and they've played out in many different ways. I wouldn't focus on them, but it's a fun break when you get the notification that someone's trying to find you. I also really like the race vs mobile users as you try to escape while they control police deployment. Surprisingly fun!
Aiden. Well, I get that he's hardly the most memorable character, but I kind of like it. He's like a ghost in the system, floating through the digital ether and the physical world like a phantom. He's almost disappearing, like his desire for revenge is the only thing keeping him rooted to this world. He's not a great character at all, but I find he fits the tone well. If he'd been better realised the game would definitely have jumped up a few notches in status though, IMO. It's probably a shame.
I thought the lack of crouch would bug me, but the Blacklist run to cover and context sensitive ducking works great. Would still like a dedicated duck for soft cover, though. Hell, a prone would be amazing too.
And I know building interiors are difficult, but the one thing that really bothers me about the city is how most of it feels like a bunch of blocks for Aiden to bounce around on. This becomes most apparent when invading, or escaping from cops. It starts feeling a little artificial when all you can do is hug the outside of giant rectangles. Some areas are worse off than others, those with ally ways and sections you can mantle up on to the roof are fine, but it can be a little off putting at times.
Missions so far seem varied. Side missions are really well planned out. Voice acting and writing is at least passable and sometimes effective. Riding trains is great, especially if you stop one in the middle of the tracks to escape on.
The real problems I have are the usual video game limitation issues. AI being a bit too forgetful of the fact I just slaughtered a bunch if its friends, or lacking a response to an explosion a few feet away, and the fact that outside of the hacking mechanics this game is really doing nothing new. I can imagine people who play a lot of this style of game getting bored, I guess I'm lucky as I tend to avoid them.
Anyway; I think it's great. Not GOTY great, but typical Ubisoft "let's take generic style A, refine the shit out of it, and add a cool defining mechanic" great. And while it does (as some reviewers have mentioned) feel like an amalgamation of all their best features, it's an incredibly fun game because of that.
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Favourite features:
Incredible atmosphere at times
Evading police (hiding in vehicles is really good)
Invasions
Playing Vs mobile users
Riding cameras
Blacklist style stealth
Hacking stuff in general
Great NPC AI
Disappointments:
Not enough buildings allow access
Money is bit too easy to come by
Can't give to poor/beggers
Some MP modes aren't very active
Unoptomized menus for PC
Forgetful/unaware enemy AI
Overall: generic foundation, but highly polished and enough unique aspects to make it feel fresh enough to bother with.
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PS - I wish you could remote hack ATMs to spew out money and cause a stampede of NPCs to help you escape. That would be great.
I don't usually like open world games, but this place feels alive enough and has enough optional content so far that I seem to forget the time.
I love the NPC AI. The way they move and interact, the random crimes, the way they step out of their vehicles and lament after crashing at lights, it's a really good effort at making the place feel alive.
I think the game looks great. Playing on high with Shadows on Ultra and AA off, and it looks very good. Daylight is the game's weakest time visually, but it's far from atrocious at the setting I'm playing on. Night time can look stunning, it definitely has a next-gen feel at times. Downgrade sure, but we're not being starved here.
The driving was annoying at first, but I'm getting the hang of it. The faster sports cars and bikes are great, the rest are probably a little off. I love how fluid it is to hack lights and bollards as you drive, it makes for some incredibly satisfying and heart pounding moments.
Aiden's movement and shooting are great. On PC, I had to adjust the fov slightly but now he feels really responsive. I especially like riding the cameras. Headshots might be a little too easy, though, and I only use bullet time if I get caught in a life or death situation.
Stealth movement is pure Blacklist, which isn't a bad thing. Would have been cool to keep more aspects from that game like vents and horizontal pipes maybe to add to the stealth options.
I really like how hacking is so simplistic. This is a video game after all, and the ability to hack things fluidly in a fight or dangerous situation make the game feel quite fresh. Little things like using a camera to flank an enemy and detonate his grenade or the vent beneath him while you stay hidden really add to the combat, for example.
The ctOS towers are a lot more fun than. I thought they'd be, I like the platform puzzle elements even if they're incredibly easy. That some are housed in security stations adds a neat variation.
Invasions are great, and I love how seamless they are. I've not found then repetitive yet as each player has been different and they've played out in many different ways. I wouldn't focus on them, but it's a fun break when you get the notification that someone's trying to find you. I also really like the race vs mobile users as you try to escape while they control police deployment. Surprisingly fun!
Aiden. Well, I get that he's hardly the most memorable character, but I kind of like it. He's like a ghost in the system, floating through the digital ether and the physical world like a phantom. He's almost disappearing, like his desire for revenge is the only thing keeping him rooted to this world. He's not a great character at all, but I find he fits the tone well. If he'd been better realised the game would definitely have jumped up a few notches in status though, IMO. It's probably a shame.
I thought the lack of crouch would bug me, but the Blacklist run to cover and context sensitive ducking works great. Would still like a dedicated duck for soft cover, though. Hell, a prone would be amazing too.
And I know building interiors are difficult, but the one thing that really bothers me about the city is how most of it feels like a bunch of blocks for Aiden to bounce around on. This becomes most apparent when invading, or escaping from cops. It starts feeling a little artificial when all you can do is hug the outside of giant rectangles. Some areas are worse off than others, those with ally ways and sections you can mantle up on to the roof are fine, but it can be a little off putting at times.
Missions so far seem varied. Side missions are really well planned out. Voice acting and writing is at least passable and sometimes effective. Riding trains is great, especially if you stop one in the middle of the tracks to escape on.
The real problems I have are the usual video game limitation issues. AI being a bit too forgetful of the fact I just slaughtered a bunch if its friends, or lacking a response to an explosion a few feet away, and the fact that outside of the hacking mechanics this game is really doing nothing new. I can imagine people who play a lot of this style of game getting bored, I guess I'm lucky as I tend to avoid them.
Anyway; I think it's great. Not GOTY great, but typical Ubisoft "let's take generic style A, refine the shit out of it, and add a cool defining mechanic" great. And while it does (as some reviewers have mentioned) feel like an amalgamation of all their best features, it's an incredibly fun game because of that.
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Favourite features:
Incredible atmosphere at times
Evading police (hiding in vehicles is really good)
Invasions
Playing Vs mobile users
Riding cameras
Blacklist style stealth
Hacking stuff in general
Great NPC AI
Disappointments:
Not enough buildings allow access
Money is bit too easy to come by
Can't give to poor/beggers
Some MP modes aren't very active
Unoptomized menus for PC
Forgetful/unaware enemy AI
Overall: generic foundation, but highly polished and enough unique aspects to make it feel fresh enough to bother with.
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PS - I wish you could remote hack ATMs to spew out money and cause a stampede of NPCs to help you escape. That would be great.
Muffdraul
Member
I think it's scripted to trigger when you go on the mission
in which you first meet up with badboy17,
XANDER CAGE
Member
That's certainly the most defensive I've ever seen someone get over it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh
Just played it for about 7 hours straight and I've not even moved beyond the second story mission.
It's formulaic as hell but it's definitely enjoyable to roam around in and dabble in all the sidequests and stuff. I'm just working my way through all the different activities now and building my skills up before progressing any more in the story. Although some will be locked until I progress a bit more, still, having fun with it.
It's formulaic as hell but it's definitely enjoyable to roam around in and dabble in all the sidequests and stuff. I'm just working my way through all the different activities now and building my skills up before progressing any more in the story. Although some will be locked until I progress a bit more, still, having fun with it.
Did something similar to this today. That's a satisfying feeling when you can complete a mission without even stepping foot in the place.
There's a few, but it's probably the
Rabbid statue in one of the bars in Pawnee. Hack it to make it go Bwaah.
Yes, I really love that too! The mood, ambient, and atmosphere is just perfect.
It's really something. Like I thought this would be something I hate and immediately turn off but once I tried it I was hooked. Kinda like the AC MP but even more heart pounding. Good stuff.
It's a term used in photography. Japanese origin, I think. It relates to out of focus parts of the shot. Especially light sources, which don't just blur, but become larger.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...XTkAXC54DYDw&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1142&bih=523
When someone calls the cops and they come, stand still.