Fibre does nothing for you. For people who have been eating large amounts of fibre, suddenly dropping your consumption to zero will probably make you constipated. If your colon is used to pushing around huge fibre laden turds it can become 'desensitized' to the much smaller ones you get with low carb (and consequently fibre) style eating.AceBandage said:
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Weight Loss Before/After Thread! (with pics)
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BertramCooper said:
This is not true at all. Weight loss is 110% diet. You can lose weight sitting on the couch. It is best to weight train while losing weight to make sure you are losing mostly fat, but even that is not necessary.
That being said, cardio is great for you and there is no reason NOT to do it (only benefits).
But the mindset that diet and cardio are equally important is dangerous. Diet is the most crucial part of losing weight. I firmly believe this.
elrechazado
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re: Cardio
I lost a bunch of weight last year, running 25-30 miles a week like a madman. I gained some back after some health issues and regressing to poor diet.
So this year I've been losing weight, eating the same diet as last year, and due to my pretty careful record keeping of what I ate, how much I ran, etc, I'm able to track my weight loss. This year, with basically zero cardio, I'm losing just as much, if not more, at the same or better rate of weight loss.
Exercise (and mostly HIIT and resistance training) is great for sculpting your body, making you healthy, etc, but for pure weight loss, it's not really that important.
I lost a bunch of weight last year, running 25-30 miles a week like a madman. I gained some back after some health issues and regressing to poor diet.
So this year I've been losing weight, eating the same diet as last year, and due to my pretty careful record keeping of what I ate, how much I ran, etc, I'm able to track my weight loss. This year, with basically zero cardio, I'm losing just as much, if not more, at the same or better rate of weight loss.
Exercise (and mostly HIIT and resistance training) is great for sculpting your body, making you healthy, etc, but for pure weight loss, it's not really that important.
AceBandage said:
Fiber is just stuff in food that cannot be digested. I haven't used fiber supplements in years, but I wouldn't just take any supplement. I think some of them are exclusively soluble fiber which will bulk up your bowel movements and if anything make constipation worse.
I would recommend green leafy vegetables and a magnesium supplement.
teh_pwn said:
Yep. I became stressed out and would be prone to binging after doing long steady state cardio sessions. It actually took a couple of days for my cortisol levels to come down, I suspect. On the other hand, you can walk indefinitely without raising cortisol levels and short bursts of intense activity don't really raise cortisol levels nearly as much as the steady state stuff.
Escape Goat
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i was thinking of joining a spin class. Do you just sign up and then try to keep up until you've done it enough where you're not having to break from the instructor and rest?
BertramCooper
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Touche. Pwn is the last person I would ever pick an argument with.
That said, I needed cardio when I first started losing weight, simply because I couldn't do much strength training. I couldn't do a single goddamned pushup because I was so heavy.
And I still love doing it. It makes me feel great. I couldn't imagine losing weight without it, but that's just me.
That said, I needed cardio when I first started losing weight, simply because I couldn't do much strength training. I couldn't do a single goddamned pushup because I was so heavy.
And I still love doing it. It makes me feel great. I couldn't imagine losing weight without it, but that's just me.
AceBandage
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I believe cardio is good for increasing stamina and lung capacity, isn't it?
BertramCooper said:
It's okay to disagree. My days of 100 links and constant arguing on the internets is over I think.
I exercise because it makes me feel healthier. Cardiovascular health so I don't have to breath hard walking up stairs.
elrechazado
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If you like a physical activity, I don't think anyone would say don't do it. Sometimes I like to go for a run just to get out there (not in the freaking summer though), and for me, the psychological committment to the running was what I knew how to do at that point in my big weight loss journey.BertramCooper said:
Again I would recommend taking Magnesium Glycinate if you're worry about the diarrhetic effect of Citrate.teh_pwn said:
AceBandage said:
Yes, sprinting!
Also read this
http://www.marksdailyapple.com/case-against-cardio/
AceBandage said:
I rarely use the treadmill. Sometimes I do when the weather outside is nasty or something. Anyway, there was a period of time recently where I was doing lots of walking at a normal pace, 30 minutes of sprints a week, and weight training twice a week totaling a little over an hour. Before that, I happened to do some walking on the treadmill. I was walking at 2.5mph with a 5 degree incline to get to my heart rate up to 130 BPM, and it would often shoot up to 140 BPM during the session, which lasted 40 minutes. Simply walking at 2.5mph with a 5 degree incline was a bit of a chore. A couple of months later after doing the walking (on a flat surface on local trails), occasional sprinting and weights 2x a week, I decided to use the treadmill again. Two months had lapsed since my previous treadmill useage -- this time I had to walk at 3.5mph with a 15 degree incline to barely get my heart rate to 120 bpm, and I felt like I could go forever. I had made huge improvements in my cardiovascular health without doing any steady-state running/jogging. Perhaps it was just that I lost 20 lbs in that span, which is why I would suggest an overweight person to worry about his weight first if he wants to improve his cardiovascular health.
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elrechazado
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This is not true at all. If it were, every single diet there is would make you just lose all of your fat and leave your muscle.cluxdeluxe said:
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So the act of running suspends the normal metabolic functions of the body, and stops all use of muscle mass? How fast does one have to run to generate this effect? If I stay under 5mph will I lose muscle, but if I go over I'll burn only fat until there is nothing left but muscle in my body?cluxdeluxe said:
What you said is patently ridiculous.
cluxdeluxe said:
"the mean amount of weight lost, 9.0 kg, did not differ significantly among groups."
"The strength-training group, however, lost significantly less FFM (P < 0.05) than the aerobic and diet-only groups."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9280173
cluxdeluxe said:
While I don't understand all of the variables involved in muscle atrophy, I know this isn't true. Amino acids cannot be created from fat and starch. When you use muscle or you live day to day, you need amino acids to live and if you don't eat enough protein the body prioritizes by cannibalizing muscle to keep the heart and organs healthy.
In labs in which they were studying leptin and insulin, rats injected with insulin on a regular basis died obese and the cause of death was a cannibalized heart. With insulin always high, the body could not use fat as fuel and had to break down muscle for calories.
So I think the answer is you don't know when your body is burning muscle. I thought you were using some sort of measurement/test like ketosis urine strips but for excessive protein breakdown metabolism or something.
My concern would be that 20 miles of cardio would be not getting the necessary protein and recovery time to repair the wear/tear of running that long. Something I don't understand is when the body decides to use ketosis or muscle breakdown to fuel the body during cardio. My uneducated guess is that it uses anything it can because you're burning calories so quickly and you're going to run out of glycogen.
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cluxdeluxe said:
Eh, that's a factoid article with more uncontrolled variables than can be counted. I was wondering if there was some sort of test you were using to confirm how much lean tissue was being burnt.
I think you can lose muscle pretty easily by eating insufficient protein and doing the same heavy lifting exercise daily with insufficient sleep.
cluxdeluxe said:
Yes, you can reduce the loss of lean mass while cutting, but you can't completely halt it. You will look significantly more muscular if you lose a lot of fat and only a little muscle. This is an optical illusion. If you're untrained you will become stronger as well through optimizations in your neural network.
Deadly Cyclone
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The weekend was not conducive to my low carb/healthy eating. It seems like I can go all week just fine, but I get to the weekend and am out and about and always have to grab Subway or something. I think I hit 2000/1900 calories both days and was around 200g+ of carbs.
Oh well, back on low carb for the week!
Oh well, back on low carb for the week!
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Deadly Cyclone said:
Usually on weekends this happens to me too; however, I get creative. Instead of a big sandwich at Subway or Port-a-Subs, order a small sourdough sandwich with double meat, cheese, avocado, and bacon. You can also load up on extra veggies. I know Jimmy Johns have Unwiches, which are sandwiches wrapped in lettuce instead of a bun.
I need your help GAF. I am afraid something has happened that I never thought would. A few days ago I started noticing that I was constantly thirsty and was going to the bathroom five or six times a day. I thought it might be because of the heat, but if that was true, I wouldnt be needing to go to the bathroom constantly. I mentioned it to my dad, and he told me that it was one of the symptons for diabetes. He didnt really seem to make a big deal about it, and kind of played it off. I, however, did not. I had always worried it might happen, and now it may have. I looked up the symptoms, and the only other sympton I match is vision issues, but part of that is because the office I work in is very bright and causes me to have floaters while working, but it is not an issue outside of the office. I understand that symptoms can be unseen for years, but it only started recently.
I have not been to the doctor in about a year, and I dont plan on going now. Quite frankly, I am terrified. I have decided to change my diet and start excercising. Last year I started dietining in January of 2010. I kept with it religiously for about 4 or 5 months, and ended up losing somewhere around 60 pounds, bringing my lowest total to around 320. This was all without any sort of exercise whatsoever, and my diet consisted of just cutting out crap and eating healthily. I kind of got off of the diet, and stopped completely sometime last winter. I started to gain weight and I am now at 370. I am 65, so while this is a good amount of weight, I am not as heavy as if I was a lot shorter. A few months ago, I attempted a high protein/low carb diet, and while I lost about 6 or 7 pounds, it didnt go that well, and I didnt really notice any change.
I need to know what you think I should do. I have today gone back to my healthy diet, and am literally too scared to eat any more crap. I have a friend of mine who was in a similar situation as I am in now (albeit he is much older and smaller than I am) who lost around 20 or 30 pounds and cut down his chances significantly of having diabetes. He did it without getting a checkup for health insurance reasons, but was checking his levels daily. I just need to know what I need to do or watch out for. I am not really versed in the disease, and it almost makes me sick thinking about it. I want to beat this the natural way.
I have not been to the doctor in about a year, and I dont plan on going now. Quite frankly, I am terrified. I have decided to change my diet and start excercising. Last year I started dietining in January of 2010. I kept with it religiously for about 4 or 5 months, and ended up losing somewhere around 60 pounds, bringing my lowest total to around 320. This was all without any sort of exercise whatsoever, and my diet consisted of just cutting out crap and eating healthily. I kind of got off of the diet, and stopped completely sometime last winter. I started to gain weight and I am now at 370. I am 65, so while this is a good amount of weight, I am not as heavy as if I was a lot shorter. A few months ago, I attempted a high protein/low carb diet, and while I lost about 6 or 7 pounds, it didnt go that well, and I didnt really notice any change.
I need to know what you think I should do. I have today gone back to my healthy diet, and am literally too scared to eat any more crap. I have a friend of mine who was in a similar situation as I am in now (albeit he is much older and smaller than I am) who lost around 20 or 30 pounds and cut down his chances significantly of having diabetes. He did it without getting a checkup for health insurance reasons, but was checking his levels daily. I just need to know what I need to do or watch out for. I am not really versed in the disease, and it almost makes me sick thinking about it. I want to beat this the natural way.
Escape Goat
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omgkitty said:
so you're making plans to combat a disease you may or may not have? Just go to the doctor and find out what you need to do to reach your goals.
Escape Goat
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Doctors can't force you to do anything. They're ethically bound to keep your information confidential and have no authority to enforce anything.
diabetes is not a death sentence. Its a totally treatable condition. They'll test your blood sugar after you fast for 9-10 hours. They may want to test it again to be sure another day. But the best way to approach medical concerns is to get the facts so you can make informed and safe decisions for your future. Diabetes isn't reversible but depending on the type you may (or may not) have there have been some pretty fantastic advances in treatment.
diabetes is not a death sentence. Its a totally treatable condition. They'll test your blood sugar after you fast for 9-10 hours. They may want to test it again to be sure another day. But the best way to approach medical concerns is to get the facts so you can make informed and safe decisions for your future. Diabetes isn't reversible but depending on the type you may (or may not) have there have been some pretty fantastic advances in treatment.