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[diffusionx]

So Clair Obscur is that good huh? Guess I'll have to get around to it.

PC or PS5 Pro? Wondering whether this is a controller or M&KB game.

it's a controller game but nah it's not THAT good.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

"Predictable win" because it's the best fantasy RPG in the last two decades easily.

Which was not predictable, a few months ago. What this team achieved is something incredible.

And it's a game with a cultural impact, you can tell. Same as titles like Hollow Knight, Bloodborne or Nier Automata, titles that trascend the medium and are remembered for years. Bananza is great but nowhere near that. Astrobot was also a masterpiece but not a pivotal title like E33.

None of the games I mentioned won any GOTY but in retrospect most people would consider them better or more important than the winners of those years. E33 is in that group.

 

[Topher]

I thought this thread was personal GOTY and not Geoff's though

My personal one is DKB for now

Expedition 33 will win Geoff's because it's a feel good story about a small French team that got out of evil Ubisoft to make dream game etc start the violins. I'm fine with it winning GOTY anyway because it was mine as well until DKB, but game awards are so predictable

It's more predictable that the game will win GOTY because it is such a great game than anything else. Having said that, I wouldn't be upset at all if DKB took GOTY. I just think Clair Obscur deserves it.

 

[Tg89]

DK or Ex33 depending on my mood.

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

I haven't played anything this year that I liked as much as I liked Avowed. Yes, I platinumed Expidition 33 and it's my 2nd favorite.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Not everyone thinks it's the second coming.

And he's completely right about how GOTY is selected at that show, and by journalists more broadly. They are more concerned with crafting a narrative that says something about themselves and what they want people to talk about, than they are strictly assessing quality of games in as objective of a manner as possible. Sometimes the two things accidentally overlap, but often they don't.

This is why GOTY is a joke.

so ? that doesn't make downplaying the games achievements less idiotic, you see, i m not the most fanatic about Botw or Totk, but downplaying their achievements just cause i don't think its the second coming would be idiotic too.

also i doubt that if it was a "the game i like is the front runner" situation some ppl here would be throwing the Geoff sell out , Goty joke speech.

also 2: its seens that Nintendo fans still butthurt about Totk losing to BG3 in 2023.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Expedition 33. Nothing else is remotely close.

 

[CosmicComet]

First Berserker so far

 

[Rush2112]

Just a few months ago, Capcom fanboys wouldn't shut up about MH. That's how can spot overhyped games.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Just a few months ago, Capcom fanboys wouldn't shut up about MH. That's how can spot overhyped games.

lol, from day 1 most ppl knew that MHWi had no chance and i say that as someone that put more than 600hrs into it.

 

[Punished Miku]

so ? that doesn't make downplaying the games achievements less idiotic, you see, i m not the most fanatic about Botw or Totk, but downplaying their achievements just cause i don't think its the second coming would be idiotic too.

also i doubt that if it was a "the game i like is the front runner" situation some ppl here would be throwing the Geoff sell out , Goty joke speech.

also 2: its seens that Nintendo fans still butthurt about Totk losing to BG3 in 2023.

People can downplay anything they want. People can have any opinion they want. People don't have to conform to a single thing you think is important. I wrote a detailed review of CE33 and it downplays almost every aspect of the game. Cry about it.

 

[Mr Moose]

Hasn't changed for me. E33.

 

[Lokaum D+]

People can downplay anything they want. People can have any opinion they want. People don't have to conform to a single thing you think is important. I wrote a detailed review of CE33 and it downplays almost every aspect of the game. Cry about it.

criticizing and downplaying are different things, if your review is based on downplaying a game ( any game ) instead of criticizing i m certain that It's not even good enough to wipe my ass with it, let alone wasting time reading.

 

[SamuraiEdge]

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 easily

 

[MiguelItUp]

For what I've played, it's likely going to be Death Stranding 2.

If E33 doesn't win game of the year from every outlet, I will be shocked.

 

[Orbital2060]

Ive played some great games this year but Doom is top of my list so far. Amazing game.

Also Tony Hawk 3+4 and Capcoms Fighting Collection 2 is high up.

 

[Lillie]

Expedition 33

 

[vaibhavpisal]

I'd say it is on par with BG3. Lots of differences though. It doesn't have all the polish and shine of BG3. Doesn't have the voice acting. Doesn't have the big sprawling world to explore since it is space based, but it still has plenty to explore. Personally, I like the characters in RT more than BG3. Also love all the systems. Trading is well thought out and goes well beyond the usual "get gold/buy shit" mechanic. Also loot feeds into trading heavily, but again, more than just buy/sell. There are factions, reputation, etc. Then you have space faring and battles. So I'd say there is a lot more depth to RT than BG3. That doesn't necessarily mean it will automatically be better to a lot of folks because the learning curve is a bit much. I'm not done with the game so I can't speak to the story. BG3's was great and massive. Really they are both great games.

I think I am liking writing and its delivery more in RT. Feels more like a traditional RPG.

BG3 had more of a im-sim style map that was good for experimentation (still pared back from DOS2). Voice acting etc were ok additions for my personal preferences, don't really care about those in crpgs.

 

[Brakum]

Still 33, it's not even close and it's unlikely to change because 33 would be my goty in 9 of the last 10 years

 

[Roman Empire]

I've learned that I hate games

From everything I played, I enjoyed MH Wilds the most but it can't win GoTY, not with its performance and casualization of the game from Capcom. So Expedition 33 takes the cake.

 

[SupaComputa]

Again, I have nothing against it, it was my runner up too. I wouldn't agree on 30 years claim, the game has flaws imo but that's just preference.

But it's also kind of predictable, regardless of upcoming games in the remaining of 2025.

For sure it has flaws, but the highs are so high that it justifies the hype around it. Just the music for example is actual art, not generic chiptune, jpop/rock or orchestral scores that's been spoon-fed to us since the ps3/360 generation.

 

[Topher]

I think I am liking writing and its delivery more in RT. Feels more like a traditional RPG.

BG3 had more of a im-sim style map that was good for experimentation (still pared back from DOS2). Voice acting etc were ok additions for my personal preferences, don't really care about those in crpgs.

Pretty much agree. Oh.....the music in RT is just fantastic. Perfect for 40k.

 

[The Cockatrice]

Best game I've played this year is W40K Rogue Trader. If it had been released this year I'd vote for it as my GOTY easy.

Did you play Pathfinder WofR? If yes how does it compare with it?

 

[MrAlwaysRight]

MAFIA

 

[Danny22]

Again, I have nothing against it, it was my runner up too. I wouldn't agree on 30 years claim, the game has flaws imo but that's just preference.

But it's also kind of predictable, regardless of upcoming games in the remaining of 2025.

Its predictable NOW, but I bet 99 percent of us didn't predict EX333 winning GOTY at the start of the year, and we're forum enthusiasts. Did you predict it even for a nomination?

And all industries are somewhat predictable, inlcluding Oscars and Emmys. Frankly, even more predictable than gaming. I know the HBO drama is getting nominated at the emmys, and so will the Oscar baits.

Frankly, I hope AI makes all of these so cheap to create that everybody with talent can create their own TV shows, Movies and games from their computer alone. That's when the competition will truly blow up and the world will truly compete with each other.

 

[Buggy Loop]

Downplaying E33 achievements to a mere "feel good story about a small French team that got out of evil Ubisoft to make dream game etc start the violins" is just idiotic.

Its the same of someone saying that DK Bananza ll win goty just cause its a Nintendo game and Nintendo game 99% of the time get a pass.

Missed the whole point but what to expect from you

I'm saying that game awards are manufactured

KCD 2 imo is a better RPG than expedition 33

If expedition 33 had been made by Ubisoft say, a lot less buzz around it would have been made, a lot less. The whole marketing is basically "Can you believe what this small team made???"

DK has no chance, Nintendo does not drive the narrative Geoff awards wants to do

again with your trolling of Nintendo, pathetic. Truely lives rent free in your head. Nintendo gets a pass? How many GOTY they had since the existence of the show? Come back to me after you figure it out

 

[Lokaum D+]

Missed the whole point but what to expect from you

I'm saying that game awards are manufactured

KCD 2 imo is a better RPG than expedition 33

If expedition 33 had been made by Ubisoft say, a lot less buzz around it would have been made, a lot less. The whole marketing is basically "Can you believe what this small team made???"

DK has no chance, Nintendo does not drive the narrative Geoff awards wants to do

again with your trolling of Nintendo, pathetic. Truely lives rent free in your head. Nintendo gets a pass? How many GOTY they had since the existence of the show? Come back to me after you figure it out

at least i m not the only one missing a point here

"is just idiotic. Its the same of someone saying that DK Bananza ll win goty just cause its a Nintendo game and Nintendo game 99% of the time get a pass."

i just said that talking this about Nintendo games is idiotic as downplaying the achievements of a game like you did.

 

[Topher]

Did you play Pathfinder WofR? If yes how does it compare with it?

I've only played the opening part of Pathfinder. Mister Wolf has finished both so he can give you a better response. I plan on returning to Pathfinder after I finish RT.

 

[LakeOf9]

so ? that doesn't make downplaying the games achievements less idiotic, you see, i m not the most fanatic about Botw or Totk, but downplaying their achievements just cause i don't think its the second coming would be idiotic too.

also i doubt that if it was a "the game i like is the front runner" situation some ppl here would be throwing the Geoff sell out , Goty joke speech.

also 2: its seens that Nintendo fans still butthurt about Totk losing to BG3 in 2023.

Bro, sharing opinions isn't "downplaying" anything. I voted for Expedition 33 for GOTY in this poll, and I think it will win at the awards this year too, but if people have legitimate complaints about the game (and there are many, from the direction the story takes after Act 2 to complaints about the battle system), then that's not "downplaying the game's achievements", that's sharing opinions

You also seem obsessed with Nintendo and Nintendo fans, given the fact that every single one of your posts seems to bring up how some imaginary Nintendo fans are acting butthurt

 

[Buggy Loop]

at least i m not the only one missing a point here

"is just idiotic. Its the same of someone saying that DK Bananza ll win goty just cause its a Nintendo game and Nintendo game 99% of the time get a pass."

i just said that talking this about Nintendo games is idiotic as downplaying the achievements of a game like you did.

Again, you are thinking I am saying this with a partisan bias, I am not. The awards are predictable, simple as that. It's a recipe.



Of course to get nominated you need merit, but to win you also need to grow the narrative that games are next big thing, get the fuck out Hollywood, here's what a small team could achieve, see? The industry isn't fucked with crunch and bloated teams of 1000 devs to also get recognition.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

so ? that doesn't make downplaying the games achievements less idiotic, you see, i m not the most fanatic about Botw or Totk, but downplaying their achievements just cause i don't think its the second coming would be idiotic too.

also i doubt that if it was a "the game i like is the front runner" situation some ppl here would be throwing the Geoff sell out , Goty joke speech.

also 2: its seens that Nintendo fans still butthurt about Totk losing to BG3 in 2023.

The only opinion that matters is yours though.

 

[Lokaum D+]

Bro, sharing opinions isn't "downplaying" anything. I voted for Expedition 33 for GOTY in this poll, and I think it will win at the awards this year too, but if people have legitimate complaints about the game (and there are many, from the direction the story takes after Act 2 to complaints about the battle system), then that's not "downplaying the game's achievements", that's sharing opinions

You also seem obsessed with Nintendo and Nintendo fans, given the fact that every single one of your posts seems to bring up how some imaginary Nintendo fans are acting butthurt

i m just sharing my opinion, chill out

 

[LakeOf9]

i m just sharing my opinion, chill out

I would say the literal exact same thing to you

 

[diffusionx]

Again, you are thinking I am saying this with a partisan bias, I am not. The awards are predictable, simple as that. It's a recipe.



Of course to get there you need merit, but to win you also need to grow the narrative that games are next big thing, get the fuck out Hollywood, here's what a small team could achieve, see? The industry isn't fucked with crunch and bloated teams of 1000 devs to also get recognition.

Yes this is true. I said it in another thread, CO33 has GOTY locked up because of the narrative around it. No chance another game wins, none.

This is true of all awards shows btw, the stuff that goes on behind the scenes with Oscars has nothing to do whatsoever with the inherent quality of the movies.

 

[RAIDEN1]

Earthion deserves to be considered, it is by all accounts one of the greatest shoot-em-ups to have released in how many decades? No half-baked game here, you get what you paid for, no hidden paywalls, nothing, entertainment from the get-go..and what gaming used to be all about!

 

[Buggy Loop]

Yes this is true. I said it in another thread, CO33 has GOTY locked up because of the narrative around it. No chance another game wins, none.

This is true of all awards shows btw, the stuff that goes on behind the scenes with Oscars has nothing to do whatsoever with the inherent quality of the movies.

Bingo

And again, same for BG3, it was my GOTY easily, but I knew nothing else that year could have a chance of displacing it for GOTY at Geoff's, before the end of year and all games had released

There's just not much weight to put into the awards, games or movies alike

I mean the Oscar's are a joke, that is known

 

[LakeOf9]

Bingo

And again, same for BG3, it was my GOTY easily, but I knew nothing else that year could have a chance of displacing it for GOTY at Geoff's, before the end of year and all games had released

There's just not much weight to put into the awards, games or movies alike

I mean the Oscar's are a joke, that is known

One issue with a lot of E33 fans is that any statement about the game that's anything less than "this is the greatest achievement of all time and absolute perfection" gets viewed as a personal insult. Even a statement as benign as "yes E33 deserves to win GOTY and it will anyway because of the narrative the awards want to push" which until last year would have been the most non controversial observation of all time, gets them butt hurt.

Truly the most obnoxious fan base.

 

[DragoonKain]

Clair Obscur so far. The only two I think could dethrone it for me are Metroid Prime 4 or Hollow Knight(if either actually come out this year).

 

[Mister Wolf]

Did you play Pathfinder WofR? If yes how does it compare with it?

Rogue Trader is better to me. Owlcat is improving every game. I expect Dark Heresy to be better than Rogue Trader.

 

[Neilg]

I loved E33, but for me this year KCD2 is the clear winner. The scale of the story, the arc it takes in the second half, the moments through the side quests, all hit me right where it needed to. Even a rough opening 15 hours wasnt enough to take away from it.

I do know a lot of people really, really hated those first 15 hours though so there's no way it'll win.

 

[diffusionx]

One issue with a lot of E33 fans is that any statement about the game that's anything less than "this is the greatest achievement of all time and absolute perfection" gets viewed as a personal insult. Even a statement as benign as "yes E33 deserves to win GOTY and it will anyway because of the narrative the awards want to push" which until last year would have been the most non controversial observation of all time, gets them butt hurt.

Truly the most obnoxious fan base.

yea I noticed this too.

 

[The Cockatrice]

So Clair Obscur is that good huh? Guess I'll have to get around to it.

PC or PS5 Pro? Wondering whether this is a controller or M&KB game.

I've only played the opening part of Pathfinder. Mister Wolf has finished both so he can give you a better response. I plan on returning to Pathfinder after I finish RT.

Considering I have very little information about the W40K universe, how "lost" will I feel in RT? Or does it have that awesome mechanic in its dialogue where they explain bits of lore whenever they mention something important, like they did with all Pathfinder games?

EDIT: this is what I mean as below pic, whenever there was a mention of a figure or event or location, like Iomedae in this example, you could click on it and you'd get a nice short lore description, which I really liked instead of having to read a million books or check a stupid lore page with everything scattered around.

 

[Fbh]

Still E33 by a wide margin.
And I doubt that will change based on the games that have already been announced for the rest of the year

 

[ecosse_011172]

One issue with a lot of <insert video game here> fans is that any statement about the game that's anything less than "this is the greatest achievement of all time and absolute perfection" gets viewed as a personal insult

Truly the most obnoxious fan base.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Topher]

Considering I have very little information about the W40K universe, how "lost" will I feel in RT? Or does it have that awesome mechanic in its dialogue where they explain bits of lore whenever they mention something important, like they did with all Pathfinder games?

Yeah, they have a thing that highlights words and gives you a description of stuff if that is what you mean. Might be good if you watch a youtube video giving you an overview of the lore, but I think the gist of what is going on doesn't really require you to know all the ins and outs of W40k. The Rogue Trader as a character is a bit outside the traditional table top game and carves its own story in the w40k universe. I'm actually learning quite a bit more about the 40k universe in this game as I've only read a few of the books and only played games like Dawn of War and Space Marine.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 without a doubt. I haven't played KDC 2 yet and might like it more, but the evolution brought to the RPG genre, it's mature storytelling and unending barrage of GOAT music in games simply elevate Expedition 33 to a masterpiece and best of the year.

 

[Topher]

Even a statement as benign as "yes E33 deserves to win GOTY and it will anyway because of the narrative the awards want to push" which until last year would have been the most non controversial observation of all time, gets them butt hurt.

You say that to the fanbase of any game and you are just asking for pushback. I don't get why it matters. If the "narrative" behind GOTY award (whatever it is) means the game that deserves GOTY actually wins GOTY then it is a moot point. So why harp on it?

 

[justiceiro]

Mecha break, I wish I had the time to master it.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Considering I have very little information about the W40K universe, how "lost" will I feel in RT? Or does it have that awesome mechanic in its dialogue where they explain bits of lore whenever they mention something important, like they did with all Pathfinder games?

EDIT: this is what I mean as below pic, whenever there was a mention of a figure or event or location, like Iomedae in this example, you could click on it and you'd get a nice short lore description, which I really liked instead of having to read a million books or check a stupid lore page with everything scattered around.

They have that same mechanic.

 

[LakeOf9]

You say that to the fanbase of any game and you are just asking for pushback. I don't get why it matters. If the "narrative" behind GOTY award (whatever it is) means the game that deserves GOTY actually wins GOTY then it is a moot point. So why harp on it?

I didn't say it at all, tbf, but I am just saying these statements are made every year. I saw them about Elden Ring, I saw them about Baldur's Gate 3, God of War, Breath of the Wild, because again, most people understand that making a comment about awards shows is not a reflection on the quality of the game.

No E33 fan should be butthurt over someone making a remark about how Keighley's awards go, certainly not for a post that makes it a point to still recognize the quality of the game. If they are doing so, I feel like they have invested far too much of their identity into the game.