More_Badass
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My only problem with Maeve's storyline is Sylvester. Remove him and suddenly it all make sense and there's nothing you need to handwave. Felix alone is an Ex Machina-style storyline.
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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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GentlemanCrow
Member
Hello Lawrence...
I agree with what people have said, Maeve's storyline is atrocious. Unless it turns out that Ford was somehow orchestratic that entire thing too it's REALLY dragging the quality down because it's something that really shouldn't be happening.
Disagree, the kind of changes made and the kind of impact Maeve's is having (and actions she's taking both in and outside of the town) would never go unnoticed. it just doesn't make sense.
Disagree, the kind of changes made and the kind of impact Maeve's is having (and actions she's taking both in and outside of the town) would never go unnoticed. it just doesn't make sense.
I kind of love that about her. Darling.
I do see the problems people have with the storyline at the same time. But at least it seems the wider system is finally becoming aware that something's up with Maeve.
Dinton get me wrong. There's some scenes where she's absolutely amazing but the majority in the later Eps are killing me to watch.
Wut. Nah, dat ass in those jeans...
She has to be the strong, bitchy, kill all humans type to lead the robot uprising.
Barnaby_Jones
Member
No lies detected. Feel like I have to crack a window to cool off.
they've already made references that certain hosts (old models) in the park can be altered without anyone being alerted (Ford's house in the woods). Whether or not this applies to Maeve (seems likely) and whether or not this can be used against Ford himself hasn't been revealed yet.
her actions in town were noticed, they came for her
Angelus Errare
Banned
Pancakes
Only if Felix is a host programmed to be submissive.
Kor of Memory
Member
I liked how someone said Felix sees the hosts as a person. While Sylvester sees the hosts as a fancy iPhone.
Felix sees personality and passion, while Sylvester just sees moving replaceable parts and adjustable fields.
So when Sylvester tells Felix we're going to brick her, Felix sees that as killing a living being, which is way beyond the line for him.
I could deal with that.
Show him a bit more alone (being an outsider, wanting to be a programmer etc) and give him more depth and I would have been cool with it.
Felix is so naive that he comes off as a host.
He may be compassionate but he would have to be a simpleton not to see that Maeve is extremely dangerous to him and Sylvester. In fact, she lied straight to his face when she said she wouldn't hurt anyone only to slice Sylvester's throat.
Very clearly to anyone with a brain Maeve wouldn't hesitate to kill Felix and Sylvester to save herself.
While Sylvester is a douche you can't really deny that the only sensible thing to do faced with Maeve is to brick her.
Felix behavior is not believable for a rational human with self-presevation instinct.
Who doesn't love pancakes?
Yep. Dolores/William is in generic romance territory at this point. That, and with all the talk about Maeve's storyline being unbelievable when everything about that train getaway scene as the most eye-rolling thing in the entire show. It's to the point that I almost don't care what the big reveal is.
Teletraan1
Banned
The train escape was just another loop, just another thrill ride attraction. Did you expect william to get gunned down by a gatling gun? 100s of interconnected narratives. This is the kind of thing that I got called out from Evilore for pointing out because he thought I was referencing him but I clearly wasn't. People just want to point out plot holes while totally forgetting the conceit of the show while declaring that the show was at fault and it hurt your enjoyment.
I rewatched the scene last night where Ford shows Bernard the picture of Arnold. That blank space is definitely where Arnold was because you could clearly see Ford looking at where the blank space would be on the photo while talking about Arnold. His eyes were fixed on the right side of the photo.
Seriously. Absolutely beautiful woman. Shame about Elsie as well. Hot geek lady had me sweating.
Pancakes are my favourite part of the day
Copper
Member
Seriously. Absolutely beautiful woman. Shame about Elsie as well. Hot geek lady had me sweating.
Pancakes are my favourite part of the day
We don't know about Elsie yet. They haven't confirmed what happened to her.
Not a fan of Charlotte at all though. I hope she fails.
I'm still hoping Elsie comes back either alive or as a host. I've liked the actress since Raising Hope.
shira
Member
I'm still hoping she's Dolores mother, but Maeve seems to fit better.
#VectoringAsshole
Spectromixer
Member
Episode 9 might be up on HBO Go tonight. They tweeted about it.
https://twitter.com/westworldhbo/status/802184346706661376
https://twitter.com/westworldhbo/status/802184346706661376
afternoon delight
Member
DON'T PLAY WITH ME LIKE THIS. Might turn my 'meh another boring holiday' around with a big grin.
Edit: lmao at the responses. "HBO's gonna reply [the tweet] doesn't look like anything to them."
Spectromixer
Member
Welp the tweet has been deleted
shira
Member
StopMakingSense
Member
What tweet?
Oh my god that better include HBO now too then
Doesn't look like anything to me.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
I was hoping HBO would just put Episode 9 up early since this is a holiday weekend and people will be traveling and shifting around. Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!
They might be concerned about spoilers though. I'd bet money they'd do it for sure if we were earlier in the season.
They might be concerned about spoilers though. I'd bet money they'd do it for sure if we were earlier in the season.
Imperial Hot
Banned
What did it say? Was it a generic tweet about it airing "tonight" or did it say that it was airing early?! I need my fix.
What door?
Spectromixer
Member
It said episode 9 would be on HBO Go tonight, pretty much was a mistake.
Something like "Catch up on episode 8 before episode 9 airs tonight"
So generic tweet that was published too early.
Something like "Catch up on episode 8 before episode 9 airs tonight"
So generic tweet that was published too early.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I like Maeve's storyline because I really like the idea of showing us what the hosts are actually capable of if you don't arbitrarily limit their abilities. Which is clearly the point of her story.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
It didn't look like anything to me.
Dominican Power
Member
I love the character Maeve and the actress that plays her. She's a beautiful woman.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Sure, but the execution falls flat. It's like if Skynet was created because the AI was holding some dude's porn history hostage and the AI was completely at the mercy of said dude who had the power to shut that shit down and erase his porn history whenever he wanted.
More_Badass
Member
That's why Sylvester is such an annoying character. I could buy Felix keeping thing secrets even as they escalated because he's sees her alive, and doesn't see hosts as that different from us, and is excited and fascinated by what's happening and wants to see how events play out
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I just assumed that Sylvester simply doesn't have the know-how to fix the situation, e.g. he would have bricked Maeve himself if he had any clue how to actually do it.
More_Badass
Member
I just don't buy him not instantly reporting what's going on as soon as things got violent
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Yeah, the guy doesn't give two shits about Felix so I don't really buy that he doesn't completely throw Felix under the bus the first chance he gets and rats out both Maeve and him.
Felix I can kinda understand, but I think the actor needs to portray more fascination and less fear in order to convey that conflict of conscience. So far the direction makes him seem like he's constantly scared and doing things because he just has no backbone. I think cutting out Slyvester completely would have lent more time for Felix and Maeve developing their relationship and chemistry. He shouldn't have gottten involved that early in her story. It should have been Felix trying to keep Maeve's development under wraps from Slyvester and only get discovered by him later in the season.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, that's really bothering me. Or hell, just turn her intelligence down to 1 while you're messing with her stats or something.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I think you were supposed to take his initial line where he told Felix not to damage Maeve because they'd have to file a damage report more seriously. I'm not saying it's a great explanation, but so far it doesn't bother me that much.
Ok, I guess I'll give my two cents about the show...regarding my theories mostly.
I do not believe that William is the Man in Black, even with all the theories that are floating around (and have a lot of basis to them). I do believe he might kill him, or something in the manner. (But then again, different timelines might be plausible...him being a young Man in Black in the past? Doesn't make ANY sense to me)
I'm pretty sure that Ford is a robot and the Man in Black might know it too - but specifically, that he's a robot made by Arnold (or even Arnold himself, but that doesn't fit in my head completely so ignore that for now).
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About the show in general - it has an amazing concept and setting, great actors, and some really really good moments...but it's EXTREMELY average with so much stupid parts and bad characters, but it's something that I think every other TV show nowadays falls into - starts off good with great potential but quickly falls into mediocrity and hangs on by some big premise or mystery that us viewers are itching to know more about. I don't know if I'll stick with another season of this......
But that's just how I think...
I do not believe that William is the Man in Black, even with all the theories that are floating around (and have a lot of basis to them). I do believe he might kill him, or something in the manner. (But then again, different timelines might be plausible...him being a young Man in Black in the past? Doesn't make ANY sense to me)
I'm pretty sure that Ford is a robot and the Man in Black might know it too - but specifically, that he's a robot made by Arnold (or even Arnold himself, but that doesn't fit in my head completely so ignore that for now
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About the show in general - it has an amazing concept and setting, great actors, and some really really good moments...but it's EXTREMELY average with so much stupid parts and bad characters, but it's something that I think every other TV show nowadays falls into - starts off good with great potential but quickly falls into mediocrity and hangs on by some big premise or mystery that us viewers are itching to know more about. I don't know if I'll stick with another season of this......
But that's just how I think...