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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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dave is ok
aztek is ok
Maeve seems like such an afterthought.
She actually makes Dolores' story shittier because she's getting shit done way quicker and without having to make 200 mile pilgrimages every loop
She actually makes Dolores' story shittier because she's getting shit done way quicker and without having to make 200 mile pilgrimages every loop
My guess is that William timeline is around the time Bernard wakes up the first time, so with a big tragic event like the loss of the founder causing high turnover in the years plus Ford's Ken Levine-ification by the board that led to the scrubbing of Arnold led to not many questions asked.
Plus, didn't we see Delores mow down a bunch of people when she apparently went rampage mode and killed Arnold originally? Maybe she mowed down a good percentage of them right then and there, with the rest leaving due to aforementioned issues.
He's gotta be expensive
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
We see a flashback showing a huge massacre at the test site under the church when she first arrives. I'm guessing she killed everyone other than Ford.
Arnold died before the thing went public. And he worked on an isolated now defunct facility. No one really knew him
More_Badass
Member
So what's the over/under that the "Wyatt" of Teddy's flashback is really Dolores?
Maeve never should have made it this far
shira
Member
You would think the internet still exists in the future and there would be photos of Arnold. Both online and on, say, Ford's desk.
oooh that's good
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I wouldn't be surprised. I guess it depends on whether Teddy's storyline is actually just a thing Ford made up or not.
And also Hopkins must be reaaaally expensive lol
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
of course Anthony Hopkins would talk about homo sapiens eating other humans as something natural.
A week ago someone mentioned that and I thought it sounded crazy, now I'm leaning towards it being likely.
Getting her to kill him sounds easier
100% chance that is the case.
What is kind of hilarious is that the oldest fan "theory", MiB being William, is going to be the last one explicitly revealed. Although obviously the knife and Dolores' robotic insides drove it from 99.9% to 99.9999%.
Although one interesting thing, which maybe is just an error, was MiB said "I once cut one of you open..." but it wasn't William who did the cutting. Still, I think that's just a script error rather than a Logan swerve.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Maeve is going to be a plan Ford put in place at the beginning to wipe out the board trying to oust him. Just watch.
What was her quote? "I feel like there's something wrong with this world" when she walked through the town with everyone dead?
Everybody talks of Bernard as he was there for a long time, if anyone asked about the picture he could say ''Oh, thats me and Bernard''. Simple
Also, we cant assume casualities from our world into this one. We have no idea how this things play out on this fiction
no, legacy arnold code
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
That assumes Arnold is a real name. They looked to be doing mostly super secretive research in a desert in a bunker. But we also know that Bernard hasn't been an active player in the park operations the entire time.
FlutterPuffs
Member
I'm with the theory that Arnold has always been a robot. An AI Ford built to help him create the chassis and further improvise the AI code.
I thought this episode made it pretty clear Wyatt is Teddy.
Delores kills herself after killing Arnold. Teddy sees her do so, and he rampages in free will.
Remember, tragic events tends to move hosts past their cornerstones and see the truth.
Yeah, 3 weeks ago I thought Maeve was going to lead the uprising. Now I'm thinkin she is going to be part of Ford's narrative. His magnum opus: create life, give it sentience, allow it to become self aware, then crush it's hopes into oblivion with the realization that their self awareness was nothing more than another story.
Yep, the Maze is not for Guests, but for hots that have achieved a higher level of consciousness
This multi-billion dollar venture is not at all interested in the mysterious death of one of its founders.
Like imagine if Steve Jobs had killed Steve Wozniak in his garage and went public with Apple.
Then a robot named Jerry Smith emerged at Steve's side. No one knew who he was and how he got there. He had lost his son to cancer.
But Steve Jobs couldn't stop talking about Steve Wozniak. He helped him to create Apple.
No one would question this, right?
Does it actually matter if it's William who is the MiB? It may make way more sense if it's Logan - considering how he confronts Dolores at her house and drags her off to the barn, that is not the way William would treat the person he fell in love with. Also consider that Logan is the one with the connections, it would make sense if 30 years later he's the richest person in the park.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I like idea it's to trap the self aware ones because attempting to make them real causes them to become insane.
Accident happens, stock drops, ford buys it back.
Hostile takeover stopped with a hostile takeover.
Yves Guillemot should watch this show
The man in black is the man in black.
iMAGINATION
Banned
Yup. I think Logan is MiB
It doesn't "matter", per se, but if MiB ends up being Logan, or anyone else who isn't William, then what would have been the point of laying it on so thick all season that MiB and William are the same? It would be a fake out for the sake of a fake out.
I guess maybe William's insanity (?) could act as a catalyst to change Logan and his worldview.
But I'm not buying it. William is MiB.
KINGofCRA5H
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oh man.
dave is ok
aztek is ok
There have been a half a dozen shared dialogues hinting that it's William and not Logan
That non-violent William (or Billy) ''died'' in this episode, we saw that happen
MiB says that the same happened to him in the past.
I still think it makes a lot of sense, there are a lot of stuff pointing to this. Or maybe I just dont want it for him to be Logan because he sucks lol
Is it possible the host being built under the house is another Bernard?
Good storytelling isn't about tricking the audience.
It's about the setup and the release.
They're hitting on all cylinders as far as I'm concerned, and leaving just enough maneuvering room for a few surprises.
We know it's all fine and dandy. Everyone is pretty chill. People aren't being harvested as machines or being controlled by a totalitarian V for Vendetta regime.
Yes, definitely.