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Westworld - Live in Your World, Play in Ours - Sundays on HBO
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Zoe
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I would imagine either that would have happened or the knot wouldn't have been able to sustain his weight.
Moff
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the horse would walk on two legs up to him and cut him free
or "dead" teddy would have done it
Speculation (pretty much confirmed) is that Ford's new narrative is the hosts gaining sentience. If true, it fits Maeve's storyline. It wouldn't surprise me if Ford knows.
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I really dug the last episode. Evil Hopkins is best Hopkins. So much cool stuff happened in the episode it was amazing.
Cornballer
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EW Interview said:
Can't say for sure, but I bet it has to do with not wanting to be patched up real quick and thrown back into the game as usual. A burning sounds like she and Hector would need some serious time in the repair shop. Maybe they get carted off to an entirely different section.
Yeah, probably this. She knows there's a lot of bodies down there she could use with her Ford god-mode powers.
I think so.
Probably he manipulated the "Arnold voices" using auto-conscious Bernard as an instrument. And the two idiots (Felix and Sylvester) are two hosts controlled by Ford.
The whole no danger to guests is extremely weird.
Falling from horses, explosions, knifes, hitting the head of an old man in a rock... even punches can kill a human being
Chiaroscuro
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Something must surprise Ford. He is now the main antagonist of the show, thus conflict and drama must follow, but in the end he will fall.
Chiaroscuro
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We don't know how advanced the Medicine in their time is. Maybe they can heal almost any damage quickly. Just have a E.R. nearby anda good checkup at park leaving.
We did see them heel what looks like a severed neck artery in a matter of seconds two episodes ago.
Moz La Punk
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What? Its just more proof of the multiple time periods
Reptars Revenge
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It's the same. Proves the different time periods theory. In the past it is being shown to William, in the present it was found buried.
Sure but then time periods are entangled even in the real world. If I'm going nuts then I didn't get how that photo is in both places.
Edit: oh I see. Cool!
I thought so too at the time ("wtf? that's a concussion"), but then I remembered it's the future and Ford directly stated all illnesses have been cured. I take that to mean that all brain trauma and encephalopathy can be undone or outright prevented with the advanced medical technology of the time. It's probably not a big deal to get your head banged up a bit.
Moz La Punk
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william / logan loses photo
30 years later, father of dolores finds photo.
Assuming the timeperiod theory is true ofcourse!
Makes sense. But then something weird is going on in the real world as well then.
ryutaro's mama
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If the show becomes, "something odd happens and it gets explained away as Ford had this in mind all along" I think I would be out.
Ford being the catch all for all things that the viewer wakes up from is clown shoes.
Ford being the catch all for all things that the viewer wakes up from is clown shoes.
ryutaro's mama
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Reptars Revenge
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William probably buried it after his wife died or Dolores to remember the past or something.
I'd like to think that he's going to try and persuade Maeve to join him as a new partner
ryutaro's mama
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Good, cause I don't want to think about taking on the AHBUHDAR 2 threads without ya!
Pretty much the most reasonable and straightforward answer
This show plays extremely fast and loose with its logic.
The more you think about it the less it makes sense.
Guests would be dying left and right with some of the shit the robots do to them.
Also what happened to Sylvester the douche tech?
He got his throat slit right? Is he dead? Did they save his life?
How did they explain his slit throat to the management?
The more you think about it the less it makes sense.
Guests would be dying left and right with some of the shit the robots do to them.
Also what happened to Sylvester the douche tech?
He got his throat slit right? Is he dead? Did they save his life?
How did they explain his slit throat to the management?
MiB has been knocked out 3 times. He should have brain damage by now. I'm probably on the line of thinking that Ford amps it up just for MiB. Plus that rope got cut really easily.
ryutaro's mama
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And MiB has been coming to WW for 30 years. Who knows how many times he has been in a similar logic puzzle?
Plus, with MiB being a VIP, maybe he has issued specific instructions not to have intervention.
Tell that to Theresa.
A controlled head injury in a real life video game is a lot different from having your head repeatedly bashed against a wall by a murderous robot using its unrestrained superhuman strength.
We know hosts do everything from pull their punches to give guests time to draw their guns first despite actually being much better and faster at everything. I feel like the show has shown us many examples that guests are in fact not in any danger during any of the park's loops and yet it keeps coming up in this thread why Person didn't die from Scripted Event.
They showed the other tech closing the wound with some tool so he's probably still alive.
Zoe
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They have a tool that seals up wounds without leaving a trace. Felix used it on him.
I know you're joking but there's a plausible parallel to how Logan went from prisoner to Confederate General in a day and how Maeve went from park slave to super-smart sentient robot rebellion leader in a very short span of time. There's no way her uprising is real. I would even go as far as saying that she was physically incapable of fatally stabbing Sylvester and doesn't know it.
How is it a stretch? The smartest character on the show said illness and disease are gone. That alone strongly implies that the level of technological advancement is much greater than what we have in 2016.
I wouldn't put it above them to pull a Metal Gear Rising Blade Wolf.
I guess. Its still fucking crazy what they are getting away with under the managements nose.
Also how does the robot know the force required to knock an aging man out by smashing his head against a rock, but not actually giving him internal bleeding or brain damage?
How exactly do you 'fake' that?
We also know that hosts can actually malfunction, especially when they're around William/MiB because he tends to break everything he plays. Logan got cut by Dolores. MiB got slashed on the neck by Maeve. These are all real injuries that are by no means "not in any danger". They're defects. So knowing that, it's hard to buy into the narrative that every action taken by every host is perfectly designed and safe. Most clearly are, but whenever we deal with OG hosts who were around in Arnold's days, I would say the show has also conditioned people to feel that all bets are off.
Hitting someone in the head to knock them out is such an ingrained part of storytelling across all media, due to decades of use in all kinds of stories, that it strikes me as a silly gripe to level specifically at Westworld and call it inconsistent.
At the very same time this episode was airing, The Walking Dead had a character bash another in the face with a shotgun and KO them, only for that character to be perfectly fine minutes later with a small bandage, and running around the next day shooting guns and chasing people down. I'd bet other shows that night also featured characters getting popped in the head and KO'd too.
It's inaccurate to reality but it's a common storytelling tool whose acceptance, convenience and expedience overrides the accuracy, like how defibrillators are used in fiction, or CPR.
At the very same time this episode was airing, The Walking Dead had a character bash another in the face with a shotgun and KO them, only for that character to be perfectly fine minutes later with a small bandage, and running around the next day shooting guns and chasing people down. I'd bet other shows that night also featured characters getting popped in the head and KO'd too.
It's inaccurate to reality but it's a common storytelling tool whose acceptance, convenience and expedience overrides the accuracy, like how defibrillators are used in fiction, or CPR.
Precisely.
therealist
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How does Ford command the other hosts unless he has some type of neural link with all of them. It appears he can tell hosts what to do telepathically. Unless he is a host himself with an electronic connection into their network something has to be up, unless he implanted some sort of neural chip in his brain.
badcrumble
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The story isn't interesting if Ford is in control of *everything*, but he can be in control of *almost* everything and that's fine. I think Dolores is the ace in the hole that's going to fuck Ford over in the finale, not Maeve.
But in a story where the robots aren't supposed to be able to injure you it's a little jarring. It's not like they're throwing weak punches.
Kinect 4.0.
And according to established, widely used and accepted storytelling rules, getting hit in the head to be rendered unconscious would not be a serious injury in fiction. It's inconsistent with reality, not with fake stories.
shira
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Elon Musk wants to do a man-machine link. It's not outside the realm of possibility with this kind of tech in the show.
But it makes it really weird that a person has a physical photograph print. Maybe Logan and Jimmy are super hipsters in this era.
I get that. But those are the exceptions to the rule. Putting aside the handful of malfunctions we have seen vs. the hundreds of ongoing loops, guests are in no danger from hosts. That includes the rope hanging, getting your head knocked a bit, getting punched by Confederates, etc. There was a line somewhere about the last park incident (death?) having been 30 years ago from the present time period.
I dunno, I think it's weird people are arguing against the established fact that the park is literally running in safe mode fur guests, barring the rare malfunctions (which still haven't gotten anyone killed on screen).
The way they sell it sounds like that injuries shouldn't go beyond the severity of getting punched in the face with a sock 'em bopper. Even in fiction, getting knocked out and receiving a shallow cut should be at around the same level of severity but they aren't treated as such here.