What are the modern classics (single and multiplayer) of the 2020s?

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Hey, and to my defense, it has positive legacy:

 
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Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate, TOTK, Astrobot, and Vampire Survivors.

I feel those games will stay relevant in the future. Plenty of games have already been impacted by their game design. Very very obvious in the case of Vampire Survivors. It's basically a new genre.
 
I can see Baldur's Gate 3 and/or Elden Ring becoming recognized as classics. I don't think any of the others mentioned so far would make the cut - as good/great games, sure, but not as classics.
 
I think there's a misunderstanding about what defines a classic. IT isn't really about how good *you* think the game is, more about how the industry as a whole chooses certain games to remember as exemplars from certain periods.
A game being good is a prerequisite for being a classic.

10-20 yrs from today you pick up these games, then have a great time with it. Thats what a classic is IMO.

Like, I play Fallout 2 today. Thats not a flavour of the month. Cause today, I enjoy it as much, or maybe even more than how it was recieved 25 yrs ago.

I think the games I mentioned, they are unique enough, quality is good enough. They will be seen as classics.
 
Yeah, I think we'd have to define terms first. What's a "classic"? When it comes to literature, it's fairly clear. A classic is something that is recognized as excellent, stands the test of time (is "timeless," so to speak), and rises above being merely entertainment into something that conveys wisdom or elevates your perspective, has important 'lessons,' etc.

When it comes to videogames, it's less clear, because the medium is so technologically based/driven (so the "timeless" criterion gets harder to assess), and also because that last criteria I mentioned for literature doesn't really fit for videogames, which are all about entertainment.
 
Yeah, I think we'd have to define terms first. What's a "classic"? When it comes to literature, it's fairly clear. A classic is something that is recognized as excellent, stands the test of time (is "timeless," so to speak), and rises above being merely entertainment into something that conveys wisdom or elevates your perspective, has important 'lessons,' etc.

When it comes to videogames, it's less clear, because the medium is so technologically based/driven (so the "timeless" criterion gets harder to assess), and also because that last criteria I mentioned for literature doesn't really fit for videogames, which are all about entertainment.
In video games, some of them are really unplayable a few years later. Like, Ocarina of Time for eg. I would definitely prefer to play a newer entry.

While something like Final Fantasy 7, is kinda doesn't have a replacement.

Not sure which of the 2 I consider classic. Love OG FF7. Couldn't play over an hour of Ocarina of Time.
 
AC6 "The last of a dying breed" I installed it, played it, had fun, didn't want to stop playing it, played it again and again

Its the only game released in like 15 years that I have zero complaints about....it was everything I wanted it to be 10/10

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Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate, TOTK, Astrobot, and Vampire Survivors.

I feel those games will stay relevant in the future. Plenty of games have already been impacted by their game design. Very very obvious in the case of Vampire Survivors. It's basically a new genre.
TOTK doesn't belong there. It didn't do much different vs Breath of the Wild. Astrobot is great but at the end it's a very much a straightforward platformer, although very well executed.

Elden Ring, Baldur's Gate 3 and Vampire Survivors are the three games I can think of though that belong in the list.

Well, and Stellar Blade for bravely showing Western Devs that T&A still sell in 2020s! 😉
 
Breath of the Wild for sure. TOTK improved on many aspects of it (making random loot and objects more useful, making exploration more varied and rewarding, from the sky to the overworld to caves and depths) but it wouldn't have been made without the former so I think that's the one to cite.

But if BOTW doesn't qualify for being before 2020 then TOTK does, lol. Why arbitrarily stop at 2020, it's splitting a generation's efforts part way (even without including Nintendo with its retry after WiiU's failure, Switch obviously isn't of the PS5 generation, its successor will just come a bit later on).
 
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In video games, some of them are really unplayable a few years later. Like, Ocarina of Time for eg. I would definitely prefer to play a newer entry.

While something like Final Fantasy 7, is kinda doesn't have a replacement.

Not sure which of the 2 I consider classic. Love OG FF7. Couldn't play over an hour of Ocarina of Time.

Yeah, I don't enjoy games that are more than about 30 years old.

It makes it hard to say that a videogame "stands the test of time" when you've only got a 30 year window to work with. "Stands the test of a generation," more like (not console generation, regular generation). I can read a book written centuries ago and still enjoy it, because language doesn't change nearly as fast as technology.

Maybe I'm missing something, but once you remove the "timeless" and the wisdom criteria I mentioned, it seems to me that what defines a "classic" videogame basically boils down to whether the game is widely recognized as excellent or outstanding at the time.
 
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Yeah, I don't enjoy games that are more than about 30 years old.

It makes it hard to say that a videogame "stands the test of time" when you've only got a 30 year window to work with. "Stands the test of generation," more like (not console generation, regular generation). I can read a book written centuries ago and still enjoy it, because language doesn't change nearly as fast as technology.

Maybe I'm missing something, but once you remove the "timeless" and the wisdom criteria I mentioned, it seems to me that what defines a "classic" videogame basically boils down to whether the game is widely recognized as excellent or outstanding at the time.
Just finished reading Dune. It was fantastic.

Books are definitely a different ball game compared to games.

Also, classics can have a peculiar characteristic. Its not necessarily very popular and lauded at launch. It can also build fanbase over time.

I think Fallout 2 that I mentioned earlier, it probably wasn't a huge seller at launch. But is looked upon favourably now.
 
I think there's a misunderstanding about what defines a classic. IT isn't really about how good *you* think the game is, more about how the industry as a whole chooses certain games to remember as exemplars from certain periods.
You said it is about games that will be played and talked about in 20 years.
I believe the ones I listed qualify. Just like original STALKER trilogy is, or Gothic 2 is, or Witcher 3 is.
 
Mainstream Classics:
Hogwarts Legacy


Lies of P


Streets of Rage 4


Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Shredder's Revenge


Tekken 8


Cult Classics:
Alone In The Dark


Psychonauts 2


Resident Evil 3


Strangers of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origins


Them and Us
 
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