Gamerguy84
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Easy choice forced DEI in every game.
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What is the worst current poison in the industry.
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Hawk The Slayer
Member
This 100%!
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
What’s with these boards and spewing endless over the top negatively lately? It’s really getting old.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Too much money floating around. Although with current times, it seems the well is getting drier. But for companies and studios amped up on big overhead, they got no choice but to amp up on a big game hoping it does big sales at full price.
A small studio or indie guy in his basement can get by fine selling modest copies at $20. But a game company already with 100s or 1,000s of people, offices, tons of PCs and servers wont try to make a Terraria. Too gay looking and low brow. And unless it sells a tons of copies word of mouth at $15, it wont pay out. Terraria has sold 60M copies.
But gunning for a more expensive game with marketing, UE5, 4k textures and mo cap with actors and tons of cut scenes all selling for $70 only needs 3M copies to make it worth it. So do that route. It's should have more potential for higher sales wowwing gamers, instead of amateur looking indie games.
Game companies are kind of stuck because unless it's a long running GAAS game, their big money comes from making new games every 5 years. So a big studio needs a big splash to cover the finances. Traditional companies dont need that business model as a lot of their products can sell for years with successful products naturally rising in sales whereas a video game goes down in sales when the hype ends. At my company, there's products weve sold for decades where sales edge up over time. And it's the same shit even before I started at the company over 10 years ago. The only difference is every once in a while it gets refreshed packaging artwork.
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Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Exclusives.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
SirTerry-T
Member
The world's turning to shit and we're supposed to raise our pitchforks for some videogames?
Hawk The Slayer
Member
Good point but at the same time, if evil shits like SBI, Hit Detection etc never existed in the first place than game journalism wouldn't be able to spread those crap either cause it won't be there for them to spread.
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Power Pro
Member
I don't need to play it to know that that simply is not true. Go back and play any of the older Bioware games. Whatever happened to the ROLE PLAYING in RPGs? Far as I can tell, the PC is a timid idiot. You can't choose to be an asshole, you can't choose anything, you're just saying slightly different things for the same outcome. Unlike original Dragon Age Origins, or Mass Effect games, you can't even piss off your party members.
Alan Wake
Member
DEI is a problem, but I wouldn't say it's a huge concern yet, and certainly not always. I think gamers tend to punish this bs by voting with their wallet.
The biggest concern for me is the death of physical media, launch of broken games and shrinking consumer rights. In a digital future we don't own anything anymore and they can basically do what the heck they want. This is my main concern for the future.
The biggest concern for me is the death of physical media, launch of broken games and shrinking consumer rights. In a digital future we don't own anything anymore and they can basically do what the heck they want. This is my main concern for the future.
360fps
Member
DEI not only massively harmed the games' quality but also brought the toxicity of the politics to gaming. It is also so persistant that the companies happily lose millions over it and doesn't seem to mind much.
The good thing is they are often so unbearably bad that, they keep losing money for their masters and opens a way for indies to shine.
The good thing is they are often so unbearably bad that, they keep losing money for their masters and opens a way for indies to shine.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
Because I'm reading Varoufakis right now: the "cloud capitalist" fiefdoms 
Dr. Suchong
Member
Woke propaganda.
Nauseating far left values with an ill founded, sneering, self righteous attitude, riddling games like an aggressive form of cancer.
People still whining about Bloodborne.
Nauseating far left values with an ill founded, sneering, self righteous attitude, riddling games like an aggressive form of cancer.
People still whining about Bloodborne.
Bartski
Gold Member
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Darkness_Arises
Member
Journos are not harsh enough on Nintendo games. Had they reviewed content-starved cash grabs like Mario Tennis and Mario Party more stringently, I would have saved 120$. It is great that M&L is being reviewed to a higher standard and I hope this trend continues.
chokotoureiki
Member
What about Nintendo suing Palworld and going after content creators for using emulation? That's as anti-consumer and Machievalian as anything else on that list.
Otherwise, my pick is Sweetbaby.
Otherwise, my pick is Sweetbaby.
chokotoureiki
Member
That's prolly cuz they're afraid of the potential death threats and vitriol they'll receive, like Jim Sterling did when he gave Zelda a 7/10. The internet went batshit insane over something so trivial. So what if he didn't think Zelda BotW wasn't the epitome of perfection? I didn't think it was that great either...BTW their rabid fans frothing at the mouth can sue me.
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Neolombax
Member
It's the idea that games cannot be just games anymore. It's become weaponized to carry messages and meanings that do not add anything substantial to the experience. It detracts from any actual discussion about the craft, and so you're left with a medium that isn't evolving significantly outside of prettier graphics because that's the exact thing that sells new hardware.
Big Baller
Al Pachinko, Konami President
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
Hulst? LOL. PlayStation’s problems aren’t industry-wise problems.
All of the others are problems.
All of them are ultimately related to the big one: gaming makes tons of money. And finding new ways to get money off gamers and making games profitable on the scale gaming has reached is the one reason you have all of the other problems.
Bloated games, GAAS, lack of creativity, risk aversion, remasters of games that are basically new, corrupted awards and journalism, and even DEI are all due to big money being on the table. Gaming is so much bigger that it was even 20 years ago.
All of the others are problems.
All of them are ultimately related to the big one: gaming makes tons of money. And finding new ways to get money off gamers and making games profitable on the scale gaming has reached is the one reason you have all of the other problems.
Bloated games, GAAS, lack of creativity, risk aversion, remasters of games that are basically new, corrupted awards and journalism, and even DEI are all due to big money being on the table. Gaming is so much bigger that it was even 20 years ago.
MetalFreak
Member
For me is wokery. Not just a problem in video games but entertainment as a whole.
Kamina
Golden Boy
I guess in the end it is a self feeding loop of shit, one pushing development into a direction while the other keeps promoting it to the public.
pudel
Member
Its not only entertainment. Its being pushed into everything....kindergarden, schools, universities, companies, corporations, political parties.
And I just dont get why....what was/is the fckn problem? I understand these blue haired weirdos are just tools. This is being pushed by quite powerful people like Larry Fink & Co.
chokotoureiki
Member
My theory behind all the woke stuff that's become a hot button issue as of late is that Hollywood is sinking it's claws into the game industry, especially as they're beginning to acknowledge that you can make a killing off of videogame based movies or shows, as demonstrated by Super Mario Bros and Last of Us, to name a few. Money talks, and game publishers are willing to spread the propaganda as Hollywood is clutching them by the balls.
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RaZoR No1
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DEI / woke, forced politics / opinions / propaganda, trying to make / fit games for a customer base that does not exist, MTX, the "arms race" for the best graphics and forgetting the gameplay..and the "lazyness" of the devs/publishers.
About that last part:
I get it, that games are bigger etc. than ever before, but we as the customers want complete products and do not beta test full release games..
I mean nearly 99% of the time you are better off waiting 6-12 months after a game release, because it is more or less completly fixed and it is cheaper...
About that last part:
I get it, that games are bigger etc. than ever before, but we as the customers want complete products and do not beta test full release games..
I mean nearly 99% of the time you are better off waiting 6-12 months after a game release, because it is more or less completly fixed and it is cheaper...
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Sweet Baby for sure.
I’d say runner up would be modern AAA developers. They’re not nearly as talented as the ones that came before them, and they’re forcing their ugly characters and bad writing into everything.
I’d say runner up would be modern AAA developers. They’re not nearly as talented as the ones that came before them, and they’re forcing their ugly characters and bad writing into everything.
Solarstrike
Member
Purple = DEI
Destiny 2
Fortnite
Suicide Squad:
Call of Duty mobile:
Halo Infinite:
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
League of Legends:
Many "purple" themed characters
Valorant:
Apex Legends:
Super Mario Wonder
PUBG Mobile
Spyro the Dragon
Destiny 2
Fortnite
Suicide Squad:
Call of Duty mobile:
Halo Infinite:
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
League of Legends:
Many "purple" themed characters
Valorant:
Apex Legends:
Super Mario Wonder
PUBG Mobile
Spyro the Dragon
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Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Those poll options are serving tinfoil hat...
mansoor1980
Member
forced DEI
WhiteWaterM00se
Member
My answer would be greed.
Expecting to make large dollar profit on every title, which forces never ending sequels.
It also sets up unrealistic expectations for every company including Nintendo. Where you have to be very careful with venturing out with new IP and new ideas.
Right or wrong, you would never see a departure like Banjo Nuts and Bolts, a Halo without Master Chief, or experimental games like Minecraft be greenlit today from a major company. It would be too risky.
Chasing the Mobile, service, and AAA money has lead us here.
Expecting to make large dollar profit on every title, which forces never ending sequels.
It also sets up unrealistic expectations for every company including Nintendo. Where you have to be very careful with venturing out with new IP and new ideas.
Right or wrong, you would never see a departure like Banjo Nuts and Bolts, a Halo without Master Chief, or experimental games like Minecraft be greenlit today from a major company. It would be too risky.
Chasing the Mobile, service, and AAA money has lead us here.
Wildebeest
Member
Safe and boring corporate pseudo-art combined with desperate trend chasing and low neuroplasticity of ageing consumers.
Reaseru
Member
Stop the count and close the poll.
Everything around the industry stopped being about gaming.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
NeoGAF's Physical Games Advocate Extraordinaire
I can already guess who you'll be voting for OP just by looking at your tag! 
JCK75
Member
BG3 was woke AF but still an amazing game.. it's not the simple fact of being woke that is ruining games, it's that like with movies it becomes the defense when people don't like a terrible product..
Game or Movie comes out with horrible writing and is generally unwatchable/unplayable and when gamers reject it they just blame it on ist/phobes/incels and don't learn any lessons from the experience whatsoever and just repeat the tactice until they go bankrupt.
Game or Movie comes out with horrible writing and is generally unwatchable/unplayable and when gamers reject it they just blame it on ist/phobes/incels and don't learn any lessons from the experience whatsoever and just repeat the tactice until they go bankrupt.
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