They must have meant 2005 PC games to 2005 consoles games, it wouldn't makes sense the other way around.
What will next gen graphics look like?
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They must have meant 2005 PC games to 2005 consoles games, it wouldn't makes sense the other way around.
I hope you're trolling. I want next gen to be this, or I stick with my rig.
current gen consoles can't handle the textures (ram limits) but I don't see anything there that shouldn't be possible with the next batch of consoles.
Link to post please.
Sorry, but I do think UC3 looks way better than that. I just played them both, so I had a direct comparison.
blazinglazers
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Towards the end of the last generation, we had several games released which highlighted the tech (normal & displacement mapping, complex shaders, interactive lighting) that would define this current console generation. Those games were Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay, Doom 3, and Wreckless.
If you want a preview of the tech that will define the look of the next generation of consoles, you only have to look at the advances in differed rendering & lighting, and post processing displayed in select titles this generation like Killzone 2, Crysis 2, and BF3. If you include their PC counterparts (Crysis 2 & BF3) then you're already looking at it. PC BF3 practically matches the pre-baked lighting of Mirrors Edge, but in real time.
Look at the upgrade between GTA IV and GTA IV with mods, it's a world of difference achieved through what could be seen as incremental individual upgrades. Advances in radiosity & global illumination cheats, increased light & shadow sources, DX11 shaders, tessellation, more intense post processing it's going to be glorious.
If you want a preview of the tech that will define the look of the next generation of consoles, you only have to look at the advances in differed rendering & lighting, and post processing displayed in select titles this generation like Killzone 2, Crysis 2, and BF3. If you include their PC counterparts (Crysis 2 & BF3) then you're already looking at it. PC BF3 practically matches the pre-baked lighting of Mirrors Edge, but in real time.
Look at the upgrade between GTA IV and GTA IV with mods, it's a world of difference achieved through what could be seen as incremental individual upgrades. Advances in radiosity & global illumination cheats, increased light & shadow sources, DX11 shaders, tessellation, more intense post processing it's going to be glorious.
lol. that is pretty funny. 2005 maxxed out.
re: dolphin. SMG.
just because the wii is a fucking mess. sure, dolphin gets you an AAed sharp image. great. Don't mean its "OMFG". it just a reflection on how garbage the wii output is. I still don't think it looks amazing at 1080p. It looks alright
Next person who dont see the difference between art and tech.
Unless you have a link to that comparison stop making things up for the sake of argument please.
TheChewyWaffles
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I don't think it's fair to compare top-end PC's with the Wii. Seriously.
That wasn't the question though. Sure Crysis 2 does way more than UC3 tec wise. But it looks less impressive 90% of the time. Epic fail, I'd say.
Aizu_Itsuko
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That would be the easy answer, but that's not what has happened in previous generations.
At the very least we won't see the next Xbox until late 2012; that's one year from now.
Did games like Doom 3, Half-Life 2 or Far Cry running on 2004 PC hardware look as good and detailed as 360/PS3's best graphical showcases? Uncharted 3 and the like?
No, they did not.
Future PCs will eventually leave next gen consoles in the dust that's a given, but next gen consoles will have games that make current PC games look dated in most aspects other than image quality.
So expect next gen console games to look somewhat better than current PC games in the long run, especially since current PC efforts are also limited by today's consoles. Compared to this gen that means higher polycounts, lots of tessellation, way better and more dynamic lighting, tons of complex post-processing effects, way more complex shading, physics, more open worlds, etc.
Don't expect miracles though; things like tearing, framedrops, subpar IQ, embarrassingly bad looking titles (hello launch games) and the like will still be there but we'll see some mind-blowing stuff as well.
PS: Wii U titles will be a little more limited though.
Melchiah
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It actually was WOWOMG for me at first and in the middle, as I bought my first HDTV two years after I bought a PS3. I still think many games look amazing. Perhaps it's partly due to being only two years in the HD wagon.
Hold on a second, are we talking about console games released in 2012-2013 or console games released in 2018?
So what you mean to say is your making up posts in your own head claiming things no one ever said, and then posting flamebait in response to these made up posts. Good to know.
Risk Breaker
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"What will graphics look like?"
I don't know why are we arguing, next gen will look better than BF3 (ugly ass game) pretty soon, and will end up looking MUCH better.
Technically BF3 is great, but it does look generic at times.
That's where art direction comes into play.
But ugly is going a little too far.
Diprosalic
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art beats graphic everyday of the week, thats why SMG2 looks stunning in 1080p. if all the games would look like that i'd be a happy gamer.
Disagree, it depends what You like. You probably prefer art style of U3 and can stand IQ and tech limits, but in motion for Crysis 2 just dont have equal, especially in night scenes [only BF 3 come close with its smoke and lighting]
You have here over 100 shots from high/very high DX 9 settings from my old PC
http://imgur.com/a/XqbUG#0
http://imgur.com/a/EiioD#0
I would love to see similar collection from U3 that dont contain cut-scenes shots.
chickdigger802
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indeed. no matter how much more powerful ps4 xbox ___ is, first party wii u games will look glorious.
Risk Breaker
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Well, okaaaay, it's not that ugly, but I don't really like how it looks at all.
But I still don't know why it keeps being used as an example of PC badassery when Witcher 2 or a well modded GTAIV are a lot more impressive and good looking :/
But so does real life. I guess its a question of wanting photo-realistic graphics (which can look dull obviously) or colorized, stylized graphics. I much rather prefer photo-realism since I like to be immersed in my games but I can't blame people for preferring the other.
Calling it ugly is extreme even if you don't like the way it looks art-wise, unless you're playing on consoles. It looks on par with other PC games.
The density of everything in that shot is pretty amazing.
Personally, I think next gen graphics will look slightly better than this as developers take advantage of the hardware power that exists today and aren't held back by the consoles we have currently.
BF3 doesn't look photorealistic and is actually trying really hard to look stylized with its heavy use of color filters.
Lighting can go a long way.
"Realistic" looking games have done this year after year.
Though after 5-6 years, people then see what it was missing.
SapientWolf
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BF3 runs a hell of a lot better than GTAIV and I don't think The Witcher 2 is as much of a particle effects showcase.
I'm not saying BF3 looks photorealstic, no game does but I do believe it strives to be. I don't agree that it looks stylized at all.
I mean, if you look at that giant BMP above you and compare it to say UC3, which would you say is more photo-realistic? I can see how people can prefer UC3 but if we are to judge graphics objectively than the metric has to be photo-realism and by that metric BF3 is far superior.
lol. that is pretty funny. 2005 maxxed out.
re: dolphin. SMG.
just because the wii is a fucking mess. sure, dolphin gets you an AAed sharp image. great. Don't mean its "OMFG". it just a reflection on how garbage the wii output is. I still don't think it looks amazing at 1080p. It looks alright
I hope yer not just going off the screenshots posted thus far in this thread for Dolphin... I am willing to admit I am not very good at capturing screenshots, those are the beginning levels and the most graphically boring parts of the game... have you actually played those games on Dolphin? Quite a sight to behold.
For cartoony video games, they look quite good.
What I really want to see next gen is better hair and clothing modeling/texturing and physics.
I want this next gen instead of plastic hard hats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cECnvJeXXE8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDX6ddo5fCo&feature=related
I want this next gen instead of plastic hard hats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cECnvJeXXE8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDX6ddo5fCo&feature=related
Gunmonkey36
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Tessellation. It's the new cool kids graphical technique. Everybody's going to be doing it.
1080p on consoles standard, finally.
I'm hesitant to say 60fps on consoles, because someone will add higher quality textures and more tessellation and lock it at 30fps. Everyone else will follow suit so that their game looks just as good as the assholes who made the eye candy locked at 30fps(I clearly don't want 60 fps ... nope).
1080p on consoles standard, finally.
I'm hesitant to say 60fps on consoles, because someone will add higher quality textures and more tessellation and lock it at 30fps. Everyone else will follow suit so that their game looks just as good as the assholes who made the eye candy locked at 30fps(I clearly don't want 60 fps ... nope).
nincompoop
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Don't lump Nintendo in with MS and Sony on that front. The vast majority of their Wii games run at a perfect 60 fps, and the ones that don't still manage to stay constantly at 30.
BigTnaples
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People are setting the bar EXTREMELY low in this thread.
Unless MS pulls a Nintendo and gives us crappy hardware, the leap into next gen will be HUGE.
If all you are expecting is BF3 at PC settings, you will be pleasantly surprised.
Unless MS pulls a Nintendo and gives us crappy hardware, the leap into next gen will be HUGE.
If all you are expecting is BF3 at PC settings, you will be pleasantly surprised.
Dark Octave
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Until the back of the box can show a video of the game, I doubt frame rate will ever be a priority to publishers.
iamshadowlark
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What? Cream of the crop for 2005/06 on pc was games like Oblivion and Prey. Both of which were on par and sometimes surpassed by the console versions. Please stop with the revisionist history.
I wish.. I wish.I hope you're trolling. I want next gen to be this, or I stick with my rig.
Aizu_Itsuko
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Suddenly, I want a budjet.
Dark Octave
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We'll be lucky to even get close to BF3 on max. Buy a PC!
You might be right, but there's always room for improvement when developers continue to refine their engines so that they can get the most out of them.
Dark Octave
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You gotta be kidding me.
Anyone expecting anything more is in for major disappointment.
nincompoop
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You said we were comparing 2005 PC games with modern Xbox 360 games. We were comparing them with launch Xbox 360 games, which they were factually better than.
the video linked in the OP is still the best representation shown in the thread I think. That, and the CryEngine 3 tech video. Next gen will be like that, then getting better.
And I don't think visuals like the Prey 2 Trailer linked are that far off. Visual fidelity like that is achievable for the most part, but the quality of effects, lighting, and animation/camera work is the thing we need to see more of.
tons of people in this thread are going to be blown away by next gen if they honestly believe it wont be a big jump... it's been a long time since new consoles, and usually technology improves exponentially. I see awesome stuff happening! Even if it caps at the UE3 and CryEngine 3 tech demos (which it wont) I'd be MORE than satisfied!
And I don't think visuals like the Prey 2 Trailer linked are that far off. Visual fidelity like that is achievable for the most part, but the quality of effects, lighting, and animation/camera work is the thing we need to see more of.
tons of people in this thread are going to be blown away by next gen if they honestly believe it wont be a big jump... it's been a long time since new consoles, and usually technology improves exponentially. I see awesome stuff happening! Even if it caps at the UE3 and CryEngine 3 tech demos (which it wont) I'd be MORE than satisfied!
iamshadowlark
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