What's Dragon Ball Kai? Funimation announces Dragon Ball Z Blu-Ray Release
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Even the original OST does better synth than Falconer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXuPfA6TkEg
Big One said:
God forbid the theme is actually epic, badass and memorable and I don't give a shit how its produced. The themes are big part of DBZ for me and its with these theme that DBZ climbed to its highest popularity in the USA on Toonami. Deal with it.
I tried watching it in Japanese once, the music felt that way to me.
Epic, badass, and memorable are done even better in the original Japanese OST. You still have yet to explain to me how any of these tracks are "Kindergarten": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKfgvXnAWbgparams7 said:
All of these tracks are just aesthetically and thematically superior to Falconer's soundtracks, and are way more appropriate especially if you watch the series in order.
params7 said:
I can't help but laugh at this.
I watched the shit out of the dub when I was young, and one thing I always noticed was every piece of bgm sounds the same. It's almost all crappy synth rock.
You want epic, badass and memorable? Here you go.
YES. God YES. Haters can eat a dick.Odoul said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqYXx-2I9mI&#t=45s
When this shit came on at the end of episodes...so epic.
Anth0ny said:
Not gonna listen to that since I don't want to ruin Gohan going SSJ2 (even though I seen it, it was a while ago), can you link just the music please?
Whatever it is I doubt it can top Faulconer's SSJ3 anyways. And clear the earwax if you think that theme is the same as Vegeta, Piccolo or Cell's or Android 16's theme.
Frankenstrat
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came expecting a remastering of the original series 
however, this is still pretty cool.
however, this is still pretty cool.
DragonKnight
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I'm sorry but I loved the english music and I dare say that the SSJ2 gohan music is overrated.
KeeSomething
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I don't expect this to bring anyone over to team Faulconer, but I really do like his soundtrack. I perfer it over the Japanese one.
Gohan's Innocence
Ginyu's Theme
Mysterious Person
Goku becomes a Super Saiyan
And, wait... Kai skipped the Buu saga?
Gohan's Innocence
Ginyu's Theme
Mysterious Person
Goku becomes a Super Saiyan
And, wait... Kai skipped the Buu saga?
Uno Venova
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I wish I could understand the lyrics in that music.Anth0ny said:
Still I don't get how someone can find them sounding the same, 16s theme, Vegeta's theme, Picclo's, Pikkon's I can immediately tell what the name of the theme is 10 seconds in.
So good.KeeSomething said:
DragonKnight
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I still think this is the best DBZ theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alINjklNwLo&feature=related
along with the Cell theme
along with the Cell theme
Vulcano's assistant
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I'm with the Original soundtrack, The lack of it in the american version is the reason i will never be able to watch it.
There is no soul in that soundtrack, at leas none compared to this:
There is no soul in that soundtrack, at leas none compared to this:
Yeah okay...even though nothing in the original OST has anything to do with "5 year old birthday parties." I'm sorry if you think DBZ is supposed to be "deep" with a dark tone, but it's not and never will be. The fact that Falconer tries to do this with the entire soundtrack, makes it very off-tone and doesn't fit with what the series is intended to portray on screen. Falconer's OST simply just doesn't make sense with a series like DBZ, especially in various comical fillers and the Buu Saga. There is simply more variety, and more songs that fit the style of the show in the original OST whether you like it or not.params7 said:
Hell's bells into Shenron's theme into Vegeta's Super Saiyan theme.
That's how epic the Final Flash is, and how epic Faulconer's score is. I like both, but I prefer his.
As someone already pointed out, Spirit vs Spirit for SSJ2 Gohan was epic as well. No need to fight guys, they're both good.
That's how epic the Final Flash is, and how epic Faulconer's score is. I like both, but I prefer his.
As someone already pointed out, Spirit vs Spirit for SSJ2 Gohan was epic as well. No need to fight guys, they're both good.
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Anth0ny said:
Japanese person singing is neither epic nor badass.
Big One said:
Yeah well, I feel sorry for your opinion. I can't stand DBZ reminding me of some happy kids detective show when Faulconer's themes like Majin Vegeta's theme (the one that plays when Babidi takes control of him) do a perfect job of instilling the the dark and serious tone to the show.
DragonKnight
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What do you guys think about the Kai opening theme song?
theDeeDubs
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upJTboogie said:
I like to pretend Gohan actually beat Buu after pulling out the sword. I hated the end of DBZ.
Vulcano's assistant
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params7 said:
Uno Venova
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DragonKnight said:
I hate it. Plus the animation is a cock tease lol
DragonKnight
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Khal_B said:
I would be there day one
Edit: And I love the new theme. Pumps me up
Deadly Joker
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So is the Kai series any good?
I was thinking about buying some of the Kai versions on Blu Ray.
I was thinking about buying some of the Kai versions on Blu Ray.
Someone said creepy isn't a word applicable to this show.DragonKnight said:
Did we watch the same show?
Compare this
to this
The new music enhances the mood much better to me.
DragonKnight said:
Same. I like the ending theme as well, it's really good. Live your life like a kamahema = awesome lol.
This has nothing to do with the series but it's a short clip you might like as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JowDGBDM2Y0
Spoiler:
It has SSJ3 Trunks.
Vulcano's assistant
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params7 said:
Ok , I understand. YOU are as bias as I'am. (Maybe a little less than me).
See, we are in the same situation. I grew up watching this show and i really love it with every fiber of my being. I feel insuted when soeone bash it. And i suppose you feel the same for this other version.
Uno Venova
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It's a shame that they couldn't get all of the same cast, I'm not a fan of the new voices for almost all the androids.Deadly Joker said:
Also it's nice that they cut out the filler but I think the rush a little too much and cut out some suspenseful or funny moments.
I still like it though.
None of those things make the series "dark." I never said it doesn't have serious moments, but with the exception of King Piccolo Saga, Frieza Saga, and Cell Saga the entire series is pretty comical in tone and style. This is why Falconer's soundtrack doesn't work whatsoever in Buu Saga, with maybe the exception of Vegeta sacrificing himself with was a serious MOMENT but not reflective of that entire arc. There are comical moments littered all over the "serious" arcs too, especially in the fillers which don't work very well with Falconer's soundtrack, and that's really my main complaint. When Falconer's soundtrack works, it's fine (even though I prefer the original OST). When it doesn't work, it's pretty terrible and doesn't fit in the scenes it's in.params7 said:
Though you can continue to think DBZ is a consistently dark, brooding, epic anime for your teenage sensibilities, it's really not.
This'll be my last response cause this is going deeply off-topic, but I just want to make it clear that what you think DBZ is supposed to be, it actually isn't. I dunno if you're blinded by some form of nostalgia for when it ran on Toonami or what, but this simply isn't the case with the series.
Deadly Joker said:
Kai is okay. The filler is gone, but many feel the pacing is too fast at times. Also, re-animated scenes look horribly out of place.
The dub has a much improved script, and the American voice actors are now veterans, so their performance is better. Some of the old voices have changed (Gohan and Freeza to name a few).
The Japanese version has many familiar voices, but unfortunately some have been changed due to deaths (Tien, Muten Roshi, Mr. Satan =(), and some for no reason at all (Aya Hirano as Dende...wtf!)
There is no Faulconer music (dub score). Kai has a new score. But due to plagiarism, the score has reverted back to the original Japanese DBZ score in all future released.
It's kinda complicated =/
Big One said:
Like I said, the original music probably ruined the experience for you (but really its just what we grew up with).
I don't think Buu saga was comical. DBZ has always tried to mix funny with epic fights. Majin was as serious as Cell saga for me, Vegeta came close to blowing up his whole family and the way he fell under the Majin just so he could beat Goku, was not comical.
Plus Super Buu killing every human on earth wasn't comical. The Buu/Majin themes actually do a good job of laying a serious tone to it, sorry the original messed up it up with "HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY" tunes from the looks of it if it only made you laugh.
Obiously, DBZ is funny overall. I pretty much had a laugh at every episode, but not all the time.
Its really not. Its an action cartoon...oh shit anime don't bite me.
Which you started, just couldn't stomach your elitist tone at the start of this thread, this is where the thread got ruined.
Well it is, your experience differs.
lightless_shado
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Stat Flow said:
*dap*
Haters be damned. The music fits so damn perfectly.
Vulcano's assistant
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Big One said:
I would say the the original soundtrack is pretty damn effective to make it "dark" sometimes.
Compare for instance this clip in English with the american soundtrack:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGqvybJYwAA&feature=player_detailpage#t=227s
vs this Latin Spanish with the original (about the minute 9:27)
http://www.dblatino.com/dbz/66b.htm
Edit: You don't even have to understand Spanish to know what Vegeta is saying, the soundtrack tells you everything. I my opinion the american version has a mere background music that is pretty good sometimes, but it has nothing to do with the pace of the animation.
Vulcano's assistant said:
I'll agree with that. Its what we grew up with. Almost like religions.
I don't HATE Japanese music, just had to counter the condescending elitist tone that ruined this thread. This is what we grew up with, why shit on it for other fans?
Lets the fans enjoy the American release, FFS. Did we ruin the Kai thread?
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