When exactly did language in entertainment get so profane? It bothers me.

JimmyRustler

JimmyRustler

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Seriously, what happened? Watch a movie or play a game from the 90s and early 00s and everyone talks like a normal human being. Hell, even the old action classics from Arnold and Stallone didn't have this (and if, then only minimal). I remember all the shit talk being very specific to gangster movies back then.

Now it feels like every other sentence is accentuated with "FUCKING" or some other curse word. Am I the only one bothered by this? It's a real problem in modern entertainment.
 
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Yes. I am. I don't like it one bit. I give up in the middle of a movie or tv series if goes with this kind of dialogs. I've finished watching The Good Doctor and I say that it has one of the most superb dialogs in the recent years. :messenger_smiling_hearts:
 
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JimmyRustler said:
Seriously, what happened? Watch a movie or play a game from the 90s and early 00s and everyone talks like a normal human being. Hell, even the old action classics from Arnold and Stallone didn't have this (and if, then only minimal). I remember all the shit talk being very specific to gangster movies back then.

Now it feels like every other sentence is accentuated with "FUCKING" or some other curse word. Am I the only one bothered by this? It's a real problem in modern entertainment.
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They banned most Titties and Nudity from major releases so Now the only way for them to earn a R rating is to fill a film with Endless Cussing and Extreme Violence against the "right" targets.
 
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I don't care mate. Rather have a talk with this lady than with a modern day Karen.
I think this is annoying and the way language is used blends into the culture.

And believe me, I know what I'm talking about. As a native Croatian I'm fully convinced that a big reason of why the former countries of Yugoslavia won't ever get anywhere is because of the language. I can't stand it being there any more and usually avoid saying I'm even from there because I know once I start talking in the native language I will be flooded with curse words.
 
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I never said that older entertainment didn't have this. But it was rather unusual and mostly used when the series/movie is set in a specific milieu, eg. the "hood" movies of the early 00s. Now it's literally everywhere.
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That's fair and I actually agree with your original sentiment. I thoroughly enjoy shows/films which include swearing if it's contextual (it was fine and actually...eloquent in Deadwood, absolutely fits in something like Pulp Fiction etc).

I'm a grown adult, have a great grasp of my native language and will swear occasionally but prefer to keep the f bombs etc for when a situation really warrants it.

Some people I know, use swear words in what seems to be nearly every sentence or sometimes add it to a joke punchine to 'make it funnier' (hint: that doesn't work).

The most recent example of swearing that I felt was not really warranted was in the most recent Superman film. It was only the odd 'shit' here and there but I dunno, it just felt out of place to me and had they not used a swear word it would not have detracted from the movie one bit.
 
They should add a warning in front of every show and movie:
This film has modern attitudes, language and cultural depictions which may cause offence in older viewers.
 
JimmyRustler said:
Seriously, what happened? Watch a movie or play a game from the 90s and early 00s and everyone talks like a normal human being. Hell, even the old action classics from Arnold and Stallone didn't have this (and if, then only minimal). I remember all the shit talk being very specific to gangster movies back then.

Now it feels like every other sentence is accentuated with "FUCKING" or some other curse word. Am I the only one bothered by this? It's a real problem in modern entertainment.
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Are you kidding me? The 80s was profanity to the max! The one-liner in die hard literally includes the f word. I just watched Terminator last night, it's filled with profanity and violence.

And it rules. Far better film than 99% of what is made today.

Get your prude head out of your ass and enjoy things.
 
There's a time and place for it, and certain types of media...

One of the worst aspects of modern Star Trek is the tasteless gore like watching someone's eye getting ripped out, and the f-bombs in it. That shit does not belong in Star Trek.
 
JimmyRustler said:
Seriously, what happened? Watch a movie or play a game from the 90s and early 00s and everyone talks like a normal human being. Hell, even the old action classics from Arnold and Stallone didn't have this (and if, then only minimal). I remember all the shit talk being very specific to gangster movies back then.

Now it feels like every other sentence is accentuated with "FUCKING" or some other curse word. Am I the only one bothered by this? It's a real problem in modern entertainment.
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What else can you say if your education did not equip you to make full sentences?

Also you know that Brawndo has what the plants crave?
 
Shit writing by shitty immature and talentless writers, showrunners and producers.
Nowadays characters don't speak or behave like normal real life people, they are shallow avatars of their respective demographic groups.



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This could be a prime example of Disney pseudo writer. Cringe "humor" where it doesn't belong.
 
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i'm fine with cursing, but too much is not fine in my opinion
i live in place which cursing is like secondary form of communication and often to add spice for good laugh
 


Swearing has evolved over the years to become mainstream. It's just part of life, you hear it everywhere from the shops to work & beyond. It's not profanity anymore, they're just other words, usually substituted in when you can't think of the one you want.
 
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I haven't noticed it being used excessively such that it stands out. Just that shows that wouldn't have been allowed to use curse words in the past now use them instead of the weird sounding alternatives like 'screwing', 'hell', 'frig', 'fracking', 'flipping' etc.
I remember reading that AMC would allow one 'fuck' per season of a show or something.
 
My guess it's California culture spreading.

I think NeoGaf should have more swearing. I'm afraid to use the c word here and that ain't right-
 
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Normal human beings do swear when they talk.
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Some do some don't. I think if you work in a professional environment, I would expect swearing to be minimal, I would think blue collar jobs would have more.

I never use profanity, my mom trained us not to.
 
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Are you kidding me? The 80s was profanity to the max! The one-liner in die hard literally includes the f word. I just watched Terminator last night, it's filled with profanity and violence.

And it rules. Far better film than 99% of what is made today.

Get your prude head out of your ass and enjoy things.
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No way. What are you talking about? For example… Yesterday I was just watching Until Dawn and yet again was met with this slur talk. Now compare that with old slashers like Halloween or Friday the 13th. You wanna tell me it's the same?

Where it really bothered me was in the RE Remakes. Compare the language with the originals. Day and night difference.
 
I agree with OP. I am guilty, as we all are of swearing, but I try and limit it as much as possible.

Never in front of my kids unless it is completely instinctual like I have stubbed my toe or something. I find it uncomfortable if someone swears too much, I think some people use it as a pause to think of what they're thinking of next rather than just taking a pause.
 
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The difference with cursing in old movies is that it sounds cringe and out of context. You can't have a politically correct dialog, in which you don't try to offend anyone (insert name of collective) accompanied by lot of swearing. It's unnaturally dumb.

Movie/book dialogues must accomplish three things:

1 - Feel natural.

2 - Tell relevant information about the situation they are in.

3 - Character development.


It's not easy to strike a balance among the three. Nolan is guilty of some occasional bad writing with scientists discussing basic topics that they should know only because he needs to explain them to the audience.

When we speak, we are not concise and insert lot of empty words in our speech, cursing among them. A writer must filter those out so only a minimum makes it into the final script without losing authenticity.
 
I agree with the OP. I know that people curse in real life but in some movies it's outright ridiculous. Especially now that one word (f*ck) is used as a verb, noun, adverb and adjective in one dialog is insane. It's like it's the last forbidden curse word and with that, they abuse it in every way.
Sometimes I say to myself, what braindead, low vocabulary writer wrote this??? Who wants to hear the word f*ck in 10-15 times in 30 seconds?
 
It was way way worse in the 70s/80s. Even like women showing their breasts, you don't see PG13 naked women anymore.
 
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