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[Mandark]

If anyone argued that he actually got free desserts or checks in the mail, it would be a legitimate argument. As it is, he's just knocking down straw men.

The point is that you can't recognize a certain type of inequality (amorphous, informal, based in common prejudices rather than codified into law) when it hurts you, then not even consider the possibility of a similar inequalities existing that benefit you.

Implicitly, that is what he was doing, by focusing on nonexistant benefits (that nobody claims) of an entirely different kind.

 

[kumanoki]

You claim that society has afforded you a disadvantage because of your status as a white male. This disadvantage is not legal, financial, physical, or tangible.

You also claim that society has not afforded you any advantages. As evidence, you list several financial or otherwise tangible advantages that you could have been afforded, but weren't.

Do you see how you are using two different standards there?

The disadvantage is social. That is just as tangible. You are inferring that the limited social discourse I can have about race and gender is not a valid complaint by comparing it to larger issues that you feel don't affect white males. All of these examples are disadvantagous to everyone. And some white males are hampered by status. But not neccesarily because of race. Some white males are poor. Not neccesarily because of race. There are places some white males cannot go. That is a fvcking fact of life. And I sorely disagree that being hit in the face, merely because I'm a white guy, isn't tangible.

As for the examples I listed, anyone could be afforded tangible advantages based on race. Or gender. Or religious beliefs. Are you actually trying to imply that by being white and male and not taking advantage of these so-called 'priviledges' (which I have yet to be let in on- Hey, rich white peeps! Throw some swag my way!) is somehow a double-standard on my part?

These advantages you speak of, can you give me an example of one, and how, as a white male, I might be able to change it so that it is, if not an advantage to me, fair to all? I agree; there are far encompassing problems of race perpetuated by racial profiling, police brutality, etc. But how is it I am to blame for this?

My point, which I have clearly stated, is this: White males are taboo in honest, open discourse concerning race and gender merely because of who they are. It is deemed appropriate by society to thrust blame upon a modern white male for having power, even when he has none, and for crimes of the past, which he did not commit and was taught to abhor.

 

[RevenantKioku]

Well several people in the thread raise the claim of (and I hope all are joking, but for argument's sake...) "Well your type rule the world." Implying that "Hey, it may suck for you, but that white guy who you're not related to has power, and you're a white guy, so fuck you."

 

[Mandark]

I am not saying that a disadvantage isn't real, just because it is informal, and the result of societal mores rather than written law.

I am saying that if you recognize an informal disadvantage, it would be hypocritical to not consider similarly informal advantages. I am also saying that by listing several formal advantages that you don't get (and which, as far as I know, nobody has accused you of getting), you are doing just that.

Do you understand this?

 

[kumanoki]

I am not saying that a disadvantage isn't real, just because it is informal, and the result of societal mores rather than written law.

I am saying that if you recognize an informal disadvantage, it would be hypocritical to not consider similarly informal advantages. I am also saying that by listing several formal advantages that you don't get (and which, as far as I know, nobody has accused you of getting), you are doing just that.

Do you understand this?

Yes, I do. My formal examples were more facetious than you were taking them. Haven't you ever seen the Eddie Murphy skit where he wears white makeup?

I'd like to ask you for examples of how any minority is at a disadvantage from written law.
I never talked about written law in the first place. I specifically cited it as a social stigma.

I'd also like to ask you to provide examples of informal advantages I'm supposedly getting.

 

[Mandark]

I'd like to ask you for examples of how any minority is at a disadvantage from written law.

My whole point is that the disadvantages are NOT coming from written law. Please make a better effort to understand the words I am writing.

I'd also like to ask you to provide examples of informal advantages I'm supposedly getting.

You are much less likely to be given a subprime rate on a mortgage.

Nobody will use bogus "scientific" evidence to show that your race is intellectually inferior to others, because of genetic factors.

Nobody will argue that investigating you because of your race is "simple efficiency." See also here and here.

Potential employers won't avoid calling you back because of your name.

I'd also guess that if you became a parent, fewer people would expect you to drop your career, or assume that it was a dilemma, than if you were female. You probably have to worry less about being condemned for sexual promiscuity.

This isn't to say that you've done anything wrong, or that the comparative advantages secure your well-being, or that you in particular have benefitted from any of these, or that you should be excluded from discussions of race. But it's silly to pretend that in the United States today, there are no advantages to being white.

 

[kumanoki]

My whole point is that the disadvantages are NOT coming from written law. Please make a better effort to understand the words I am writing.



You are much less likely to be given a subprime rate on a mortgage.

Nobody will use bogus "scientific" evidence to show that your race is intellectually inferior to others, because of genetic factors.

Nobody will argue that investigating you because of your race is "simple efficiency." See also here and here.

Potential employers won't avoid calling you back because of your name.

I'd also guess that if you became a parent, fewer people would expect you to drop your career, or assume that it was a dilemma, than if you were female. You probably have to worry less about being condemned for sexual promiscuity.

This isn't to say that you've done anything wrong, or that the comparative advantages secure your well-being, or that you in particular have benefitted from any of these, or that you should be excluded from discussions of race. But it's silly to pretend that in the United States today, there are no advantages to being white.

Your points are valid. I'm not saying there are no advantages to being white in America. I realize that.

My question to you is, as a white male, how do you propose I change these 'advantages' so that they benefit all people? How can I, as a person, fix these things. Will I not still be considered part of the problem because of my race, even if I make efforts to avoid these 'advantages'?

 

[etiolate]

Speaking as a cracker, I wish I was "The Man." I could use the money and power. I'm tired of being afraid to look at my bank account, tired of having my stuff stolen, tiired of being a minor voice that's seen as cute or meaningless. Tired of a world run by NASCAR dads, soccer moms and 31 flavors of celebrity.

Let's face it, OJ Simpson is as much The Man as your local politician.

 

[Blackace]

Seriously, does GAF have any black mods?

Well we have two black admins... (BlackAce...and the Bishman!)

As much as white people hate hearing the "race card" being played... People of color hate hearing things like "well I am not getting my 'da man' checks in the mail." I am not saying that all white people have it easy, and that life is fair. But, really, you are from the south and you know that blacks have it tough down there. You know they are not always treated fairly. And I know you are not the one who does it, but like the old saying, it on;y takes a few rotten apples to ruin them all. Just like I have to deal with people locking their car doors when I walk by in the middle of the day, because somewhere a black man carjacked someone from their car. Just do your part in being fair and open minded and most the people in the world will respect what you think.

 

[robertsan21]

This might ad something to discuss about

Asian:mentaly strong.
White:brainy"smart"team player, working things out.
Black: good physique"Sprinters, body builders,

 

[Blackace]

This might ad something to discuss about

Asian:mentaly strong.
White:brainy"smart"team player, working things out.
Black: good physique"Sprinters, body builders, rappers

fixed for Japan

 

[dark10x]

As with everything, it varies from person to person and group to group...

There is no hive mind here...

Some people are successful, some aren't and the reasons why that might be also vary per case.

I'm tired of grouping...

Just like I have to deal with people locking their car doors when I walk by in the middle of the day, because somewhere a black man carjacked someone from their car.

This type of reaction can occur with any combination of races, though...

It's all related to grouping. People see someone walking down the street and association with a specific group often results. What they do from that point depends on how they feel about that particular group that they are associating that person with...

 

[Bat]

Even if the people around us don't have explicit (ie if you ask them they will claim to hate racism etc.) stereotypes and prejudices, I'd say the vast majority do have implicit ones, and numerous psychological studies show that. Take a simple example: when a white person sets off an alarm at a store exit and there's a black person nearby, half the store immediately sets their eyes on them even if they aren't even close to the exit (I'm saying this mostly from personal experience). Now the people in the store aren't bad people nor would you ever say they are racist, but they do have deeply ingrained racial prejudices. Now how is this at all relevant? While your black friends don't pick cotton or anything, they are exposed to daily examples of the majority's prejudices (just see how nervous many white act around blacks) that you might not notice or might not appreciate. So yeah, while you should definelty be allowed to voice your opinion, the opinion's of those in the minority do and should have greater weight in the matter.

It's a difficult topic to handle because someone can have the best of intentions of explicit opinions on race and think that they are part of the solution, not the problem. Often times, however, their behavior, mostly out of their control, counters that, and they have no idea that racial prejudices are affecting their thought processes (in hiring a job applicant, for example) and actions.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

Its time to move on leave slavery in the past where it belongs or the tension will always exist. I never...known of an official apology for it, but hey atleast my black ass cant be a slave today thank God. Society today wouldnt accept, have anything to do with, or want to profit from slavery so let it go....

wait a mintue maybe all the money had by all that free labor should be redistributed eh? Oh..aint that sorry huh?

 

[Future]

Yeah, in a country with a long history of discrimination against almost every person except white males, and where there is evidence that such discrimination still continues to this day (just not in written laws or in the constitution...if you don't look at the stuff that has been crossed out that is ) it's hard to feel any sympathy for complaints like those in the first post of this thread. True, anyone can grow up in poverty and it's not like all white men are receiving free handouts at every turn in life, but I think most would agree that white males got it potentially easier than any female or person of color.

So there are going to be some blatant policy that apply reverse discrimination to try to account for this. And this might hurt some individuals at times, but again, it's hard to feel sympathy since it's not like there is a shortage of white males in college or in positions of power. Some would also argue that attending a college that is diversified is education in itself. I had friends at USC that had never even seen people in person of another race before attending college.

As far as just voicing opinions, yeah it's true that people might be less leniant towards what white men might have to say when it comes to race or sexism. But as someone else said, women got to watch what they say if they don't want to be labeled a bitch or slut, black men have to watch what they say to avoid the "angry black man" stigma, etc. Whatever. Not worth thinking about.

 

[WedgeX]

Yeah, in a country with a long history of discrimination against almost every person except white males

The Irish are white. Or so I've been lead to believe.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

just see how nervous many white act around blacks

theres nothing scarier than white people that have lost it......jk jk...sorta...ok kidding

 

[NetMapel]

Until I can find a white male equivalance of such words as sluts, bitches, whores, nigger... etc, I'm going to have to say that white males do have an easier life at least in North America ^_^v

 

[Blackace]

The Irish are white. Or so I've been lead to believe.

well they are the white n*ggers... I know because me mother is Irish...which makes me Black Irish....

 

[Shig]

I think this 'disadvantages' stuff is made to be a lot worse than it actually is. In fact, I think it goes quite the opposite in many situations. If you are a woman or a person of color, you're more likely to be given a position over a white male if you are on the same level as them skill-wise, and not because of affirmative action; most companies would really like more ethnic and gender diversification. It makes them look good to have a company photo that's not all white guys. If a white male gets the job ahead of those other groups, a lot of the time it's because they really are better qualified, not because of some bias.

 

[dark10x]

it's hard to feel sympathy since it's not like there is a shortage of white males in college or in positions of power

Yeah, f*ck the individual!

 

[Gantz]

If the white man wasn't racist in the first place then we wouldn't have these problems.

 

[dark10x]

If the white man wasn't racist in the first place then we wouldn't have these problems.

:lol :lol

 

[Lemurnator]

That is an interesting point you bring up. And to a certain extent you are right. I have no power to change the injustices women face. You got any ideas on how to fix that? However, it is socially acceptable, almost expected, for females to bring up the inequality issue.


All you are saying here is that my voice doesn't count because the system isn't fair.

You have every right to be on the fix list for the reasons you listed. Just take your place at the end of the line.

There are other people there who've been there long before you have and the best you can do is to help move that line forward faster by holding your ground, and acknowledging the problems those before you face and doing your part to correct those injustice by showing good will toward all fellow human beings.

You have every right to voice your opinions on social issues, as does everyone else. Anyone who speaks publicly their controversial viewpoints is going to be shunned people who share a strong disagreeance with said persons values and opinions. If you're a white male you can make an outcry on these controversial issues of racial, gender, or sexual equality and acceptence and prepare yourself for those who strongly disagree with you and will call you a racist, a sexist, or a homophobe; and people who will stand by your every word nodding their heads.

If a black man or woman, speaks out against racial injustices. Even in a completely peaceful manner, they can expect to also have hordes of people agree with them, and a completely different breed of people who disagree with them. People who would like to see said people dead, deported, or blacklisted. Powerful people who can do everything in their power to make this happen. Same goes for women who speak out against powerful and abusive men.

What I'm trying to say is if I had an opinion on affirmative action or racial equality or inequality. With a voice with enough range for people to hear me and take note. I'd rather be a white man and face being called a racist by a bunch of churchy soccermoms and the NAACP, than a black man with views on the same subjects who face life ruining consequence for voicing them.

 

[Particle Physicist]

You ever work for a dime a day in the strawberry fields? Do you have a period?

wha?? how can you even equate the two??

By that same token though, a woman of any race can't speak out publically against the fact that we (still) live in a sociaty ruled predominantly by males.

yes they can.. and they do all the time.

Reguardless of the fucked up divorce laws and some wholey fucked up child support cases

fucked up. like anna nicole smith who basically stole the inheritence of her 'husbands' family. or how about child support cases like the one where the guy found out he wasnt the father, but had to pay reguardless.. or the guy that found out he fathered a child by cumming in a womans mouth ??

It doesn't change the fact a nigga just can't catch a cab in New York City.

now see what happens when a white man says that.

If a black man or woman, speaks out against racial injustices. Even in a completely peaceful manner, they can expect to also have hordes of people agree with them, and a completely different breed of people who disagree with them. People who would like to see said people dead, deported, or blacklisted. Powerful people who can do everything in their power to make this happen. Same goes for women who speak out against powerful and abusive men.

um... its not the 60's anymore..

What I'm trying to say is if I had an opinion on affirmative action or racial equality or inequality. With a voice with enough range for people to hear me and take note. I'd rather be a white man and face being called a racist by a bunch of churchy soccermoms and the NAACP, than a black man with views on the same subjects who face life ruining consequence for voicing them.

where do you live?? life ruining consequences ?? you do realize that if a man is label a racist.. especially by the NAACP.. his life is ruined. right ? and when was the last time a black man was ostracized for speaking out against racial injustices ??





P.S. im not white

 

[Amakusa]

It doesn't change the fact a nigga just can't catch a cab in New York City.

:lol
So true

The only people that seem to be getting anywhere now and days are white males and white women, I see hard working business women all the time in Orlando FL (home town) and New York (vacation town). The only race that doesn't seem to be getting anywhere in the USA, are the Blacks. If it's not Sports, Drug dealing, talking about white people in a comical way on some HBO stand up tour. Then you're not getting anywhere in life if you were rised in the Ghetto. The few black business people in the world that are making it... I can bet my life that high percent of them came from Familys with Money, another rare thing among the blacks.

Or I could be just ranting again... END!!

 

[aoi tsuki]

I think this 'disadvantages' stuff is made to be a lot worse than it actually is. In fact, I think it goes quite the opposite in many situations. If you are a woman or a person of color, you're more likely to be given a position over a white male if you are on the same level as them skill-wise, and not because of affirmative action; most companies would really like more ethnic and gender diversification. It makes them look good to have a company photo that's not all white guys. If a white male gets the job ahead of those other groups, a lot of the time it's because they really are better qualified, not because of some bias.

i think this is true in some cases. People of color and women do get hired to add a little diversity. But i think it's more often not the case. You only need that are different to add divrersity, and most company PR photos reflect that. That's of course not taking into account the number of non-white males that apply for these positions.

 

[Shig]

The only race that doesn't seem to be getting anywhere in the USA, are the Blacks. If it's not Sports, Drug dealing, talking about white people in a comical way on some HBO stand up tour. Then you're not getting anywhere in life if you were rised in the Ghetto. The few black business people in the world that are making it... I can bet my life that high percent of them came from Familys with Money, another rare thing among the blacks.

And whose fault is that? Who are the ones that are ostracising the smart blacks? It's not whites. It's their own people, keeping them below their potential and shunning the people that actually try to be intelligent. That's the most abhorrent thing ever, that a race's largely prefferred sense of identity is to not be smart.

i think this is true in some cases. People of color and women do get hired to add a little diversity. But i think it's more often not the case. You only need that are different to add divrersity, and most company PR photos reflect that. That's of course not taking into account the number of non-white males that apply for these positions.

Somewhat. I really don't think they're turning down scores of better-qualified minorities, though. There's more white guys because more white guys are applying and are legitimately qualified... if that weren't the case, I'm sure a ton of people come forward to point out that they were unfairly snubbed those positions... our litigious society would eat those cases up.

 

[AntoneM]

You have every right to voice your opinions on social issues, as does everyone else. Anyone who speaks publicly their controversial viewpoints is going to be shunned people who share a strong disagreeance with said persons values and opinions.

he's not saying that he doesn't have the right, and he's not saying that his views are controversial. What he is saying if that he feels that as a white male, his opinion on matters of race are automatically held invalid, furthermore some people would consider him racist for just speaking about the topic in general.

 

[WARCOCK]

Please define white. Do you mean an assumption that you are of anglo heritage or simply the the state of your skin complexity.

I look WHITE, but i am infact of arab heritage. Whatever assumptions a person makes about me are quickly erased when i talk to them. LIGHT ACCENT, TENDANCY TO YELL OUT GOD'S NAME FOR NO REASON AND THE SPREAD OF EXOTIC BODY ODOR.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Everybody can voice their opinion but fcked if I'm going to listen to you.

What's that Simpson's skit. 'I'm a white male aged 20-35 I get whatever I want. Oh look nuts and gum' or something like that. Outside the internet you get the majority say whether it be marketing, social opinion and politics. If you want your opinion heard go to talkback radio they'll be more than accomodating.

 

[Amakusa]

And whose fault is that? Who are the ones that are ostracising the smart blacks? It's not whites. It's their own people, keeping them below their potential and shunning the people that actually try to be intelligent. That's the most abhorrent thing ever, that a race's largely prefferred sense of identity is to not be smart.

Who's fault is that? It would your mind is far to simple to grasp what I'm talking about. I'll explain best I can...
If you get a group of poor people and shove them into the poorest part of a city (teh Ghetto) They have to do with what they have, and thats NOTHING. The children born in that area will become use to not having NOTHING while living in a country that wants everything. So what do you do.....Hmmmm. You have nothing.... you think you're worth nothing... and in the time period you're not getting anywhere even if you try your hardest. Lets just say it's Ummm 1950 yeah that seems a good fucking year. It's the year 1950 and you're black, you're gettting... NOWHERE. It's the year 1960 and you're black, wow tens years later... NOWHERE! It's the year 1980 and you're black, people are slowly starting to accept you, the race wars aren't what they use to be. But guess what? You were rised in the Ghetto like your family before you so that means it's 95 percent chance that you're getting... NOWHERE! It's the year 1990 WOOOT! The blacks are getting tired of having nothing in the Ghetto's! So lets make something of it, we can't get out.. so why not take it over and sell Drugs, Gang Wars, Lets make Music! I Got a good rap song but the
producers won't put it out because it's not talking about killing other black people with guns, and having sex with hookers. Its the only how I can make and maybe get out of the Ghetto! It's 2000!! OHHHYEAH!! And guess what? We're still in the Ghetto...

 

[DonasaurusRex]

And whose fault is that? Who are the ones that are ostracising the smart blacks? It's not whites. It's their own people, keeping them below their potential and shunning the people that actually try to be intelligent. That's the most abhorrent thing ever, that a race's largely prefferred sense of identity is to not be smart.

Somewhat. I really don't think they're turning down scores of better-qualified minorities, though. There's more white guys because more white guys are applying and are legitimately qualified... if that weren't the case, I'm sure a ton of people come forward to point out that they were unfairly snubbed those positions... our litigious society would eat those cases up.

What the fuc...? Last time i checked Jay-Z was loved by these so called blacks that dont apprciate intelligence as part of our culture. Jay-Z went to college, got good grades, is a entreprenuer now, involved in many diff fields of business. I dont think your assumption is incorrect, it has nothing to do with the people being black. And everything to do with the people that dont appreciate intellegence being thugs. It isnt really based on ethnic group, its based on who has grown the fuck up, and who is still a moron.

I wonder where you get that impression that blacks dont appreciate intellegence, tv maybe? Because we dont decide what goes on tv we arent the gate keepers of media cept on BET. Last i checked there arent too many owned and operated minority media companies. Any group of people has its thugs that dont appreciate intelligence , from brooklyn to osaka there are dumbasses yeah, but its not the way the black community is, no way. I've never been shunned for being a good student besides by the usual dumbasses that are in everyones life, my community wasnt against me. My mother, parents, preachers, friends, etc, you make it sound like they would say hey better forget them books nigga get a basketball in your hand. Just what black people are you talkin about? Fools on the street with nothin to do? What do you expect them to say they aint got shit to do, and dont understand a damn thing, how the fuck are these morons all of a sudden the voice of the black community?

Maybe your talking about entertainers, I hate to break it to you but most of them got their shit together. If they dont have the intellegence they have people around them that do or they are soon gone from teh picture. You think someone can just be on tv? They gotta have some sense its a privilage not a right fuck the impression the videos or movies give, thats a show, entertainment. They in the very least understand the value of hustle and getting work done. Those fools on the street dont even get that much.

 

[Particle Physicist]

TENDANCY TO YELL OUT GOD'S NAME FOR NO REASON AND THE SPREAD OF EXOTIC BODY ODOR.

:lol

 

[Particle Physicist]

What the fuc...? Last time i checked Jay-Z was loved by these so called blacks that dont apprciate intelligence as part of our culture. Jay-Z went to college, got good grades, is a entreprenuer now, involved in many diff fields of business. I dont think your assumption is incorrect, it has nothing to do with the people being black. And everything to do with the people that dont appreciate intellegence being thugs. It isnt really based on ethnic group, its based on who has grown the fuck up, and who is still a moron.

I wonder where you get that impression that blacks dont appreciate intellegence, tv maybe? Because we dont decide what goes on tv we arent the gate keepers of media cept on BET. Last i checked there arent too many owned and operated minority media companies. Any group of people has its thugs that dont appreciate intelligence , from brooklyn to osaka there are dumbasses yeah, but its not the way the black community is, no way. I've never been shunned for being a good student besides by the usual dumbasses that are in everyones life, my community wasnt against me. My mother, parents, preachers, friends, etc, you make it sound like they would say hey better forget them books nigga get a basketball in your hand. Just what black people are you talkin about? Fools on the street with nothin to do? What do you expect them to say they aint got shit to do, and dont understand a damn thing, how the fuck are these morons all of a sudden the voice of the black community?

Maybe your talking about entertainers, I hate to break it to you but most of them got their shit together. If they dont have the intellegence they have people around them that do or they are soon gone from teh picture. You think someone can just be on tv? They gotta have some sense its a privilage not a right fuck the impression the videos or movies give, thats a show, entertainment. They in the very least understand the value of hustle and getting work done. Those fools on the street dont even get that much.

i dont think black people dont appreciate intelligence,.. but the whole acting black/acting white thing has to be dropped. your race should not determine your personality, and how you carry yourself. its insulting.

 

[Shig]

Don: I wasn't speaking of the entire community, but there is a large presence that regards acting intelligently as "acting white" and "selling out". I maybe went a bit far saying it's the "preferred mindset", but it's a sizable one, enough that it's a very noticable problem, and a roadblock to many that want to get ahead.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Aren't these people just called coons? Coons who act 'black' for the sake of entertainment.

 

[Azih]

I wonder where you get that impression that blacks dont appreciate intellegence,

It comes from the impression that black kids who get good grades are accused of 'acting white'. Now I have no idea if that's true, but that's the impression.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

I dont really think its true azih i really dont , not beyond the normal teasing a smart kid receives in any situation, being called nerds or or whatever. Yeah but that happened to kids in my first HS which was 90% white and the popular kids with more social status teased the white kids just as bad if not worse geez this one kid got owned everyday on the bus. It's all very juvenile though. What do you think it KEEPS going on in college or something for black students???

I think the sellout term being applied comes from a person forgetting where he's from. Its not bad neccesarily to say change your lifestyle, but you cant forget where you started, its your beggining and no matter what it is, successful people get help in all walks of life, you dont just turn your back on that help you received when you were less fortunate by turning your back to it thats just weak imo.

 

[WARCOCK]

I wouldnt expect azih to understand he lives in the civilized part of the world, Canada.

 

[BobbyRobby]

Everybody can voice their opinion but fcked if I'm going to listen to you.

This is mature.

 

[Fresh Prince]

This is mature.

On the internet everbody is an expert. So are you.

 

[kevm3]

Whites are allowed to comment on racial matters without being called racists, but when dumbass generalizations are made, people start to get angry.
Here are some examples:
"Why do blacks..."
"I have some black friends, so I'm not racist but..."

Some things that piss blacks off:
"Why don't blacks embrace education?"
"Why do blacks wear their pants around their angles?"
"Why do blacks spend so much money putting rims on their cars?"

While there are many blacks that do these things, there are many that don't, me included. So someone asking me a question like that is just making me think I should tell that person to shut the fuck up.

When a reasonable conversation is held about race, a white male probably won't be called a racist.

 

[brooklyngooner]

Whites are allowed to comment on racial matters without being called racists, but when dumbass generalizations are made, people start to get angry.
Here are some examples:
"Why do blacks..."
"I have some black friends, so I'm not racist but..."

Some things that piss blacks off:
"Why don't blacks embrace education?"
"Why do blacks wear their pants around their angles?"
"Why do blacks spend so much money putting rims on their cars?"

While there are many blacks that do these things, there are many that don't, me included. So someone asking me a question like that is just making me think I should tell that person to shut the fuck up.

When a reasonable conversation is held about race, a white male probably won't be called a racist.

very good point

 

[Lemurnator]

wha?? how can you even equate the two??





yes they can.. and they do all the time.





fucked up. like anna nicole smith who basically stole the inheritence of her 'husbands' family. or how about child support cases like the one where the guy found out he wasnt the father, but had to pay reguardless.. or the guy that found out he fathered a child by cumming in a womans mouth ??





now see what happens when a white man says that.







um... its not the 60's anymore..







where do you live?? life ruining consequences ?? you do realize that if a man is label a racist.. especially by the NAACP.. his life is ruined. right ? and when was the last time a black man was ostracized for speaking out against racial injustices ??





P.S. im not white

I don't care what you are, and I'm racking my brain over how to reply to your retarded counter-points.

 

[kevm3]

When was the black man ostracized for speaking out against racial injusticies? The black male is labeled something like an 'angry black militant' and is promptly ignored. So no, it's not just white males being labeled when speaking out on racial issues.

 

[DJ Sl4m]

Why do white guys keep getting busted with homeade dance videos like this ?

http://www.ejbdotcom.net/humor/videos/files/everybodydance.wmv

somebody PLEASE make it stop!!!!!!!!! :lol

 

[Lemurnator]

When was the black man ostracized for speaking out against racial injusticies? The black male is labeled something like an 'angry black militant' and is promptly ignored. So no, it's not just white males being labeled when speaking out on racial issues.

I'm sure Spike Lee and others like him have had numerous threats on his life based on their race and their viewpoints concerning race. If a black man were to run for president... and won the election... how long do you think he would stay in office before being assassinated? Minorities who take a stand still have to live in fear, even though there haven't been any Martin Luther King Jr. like cases recently as far as I know.

 

[Gantz]

 

[Particle Physicist]