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White people are funny to me...if you are Black you can relate

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Socreges

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loxy said:
I think what XS is trying to say is that no one can say that they'll never be attracted to a person of a certain race, is that right XS?
Well, he was disagreeing with:

"...we can all agree we find some races more preferencial then others..."

If he can backtrack and limit himself to what you said, though, I'd agree. I mean, I find Indians and Iranians attractive, for instance, which some people seem to not even consider.
 
I am saying you have not seen all the women of the globe just to presume, that just because a celebrity/women you see in real life is of a nationality, all women of that nationality share the same 'assets'.

That is my problem with, 'I don't like white girls'. The human genome is to muddied for that sort generalisation.
 

XS+

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loxy said:
I've found that as I get older I'll have phases where I'm attracted to one race over another. I don't really understand it but at least all races get an equal share of my attention at some point during the year :p

I think what XS is trying to say is that no one can say that they'll never be attracted to a person of a certain race, is that right XS?

Anyone that discriminates between races, when deciding whom to date, is a borderline racist. With seemingly endless variety to be uncovered amongst every race, the idea that one holds a preference for [insert preferred race] females over [insert undesirable race] females is asinine. Some of you are excusing racism, conjuring up transparent rationalizations that mask what amounts to nothing more than naked prejudice.

Socreges mentions "unique" tastes and then goes on to say he has preferences "between the races." Uniquity is, in any many respects, individuality -- it is that which separates us from the whole. Thus, the idea that you can justify a preference that generalizes the whole by citing uniquity, is pure sophistry.

Socreges also dismisses exceptions, suggesting they do not come at odds with his preference. Of course they do! If there are members of any particular race that you find attractive, then the backbone of your "preference" -- your race conscious "preference" -- becomes shot.

When you can look past race and view each of us as individuals, perhaps you will understand why your preferences are offensive and absurd.
 

Socreges

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XS+ said:
Anyone that discriminates between races, when deciding whom to date, is a borderline racist. With seemingly endless variety to be uncovered amongst every race, the idea that one holds a preference for [insert preferred race] females over [insert undesirable race] females is asinine. Some of you are excusing racism, conjuring up transparent rationalizations that mask what amounts to nothing more than naked prejudice.

Socreges mentions "unique" tastes and then goes on to say he has preferences "between the races." Uniquity is, in any many respects, individuality -- it is that which separates us from the whole. Thus, the idea that you can justify a preference that generalizes the whole by citing uniquity, is pure sophistry.

Socreges also dismisses exceptions, suggesting they do not come at odds with his preference. Of course they do! If there are members of any particular race that you find attractive, then the backbone of your "preference" -- your race conscious "preference" -- becomes shot.
No, you've got to think. I beg of you. Think. When I say I "prefer" one race over another, that indicates two things:

a) I find a greater percentage of one race attractive versus another. I don't need a calculator for this. It's just a tendency that I've come to understand
b) The women that I do find attractive of a particular race that I tend not to favour are often not as attractive as they otherwise may be. Put differently, the most attractive woman of this race may come behind many other women from other races as far as attraction is concerned.

When you can look past race and view each of us as individuals, perhaps you will understand why your preferences are offensive and absurd.
Listen, I don't see a woman, identify her race, and then proceed to determine how attractive she is. It is an impulse. It is a feeling. Certain skin tones and features attract me more than others. That fucking simple.

I want you to read the last two lines. They are CRITICAL. Read them several times, if necessary. Then come back to me if you've still go an issue.
 

XS+

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Socreges said:
No, you've got to think. I beg of you. Think. When I say I "prefer" one race over another, that indicates two things:

a) I find a greater percentage of one race attractive versus another. I don't need a calculator for this. It's just a tendency that I've come to understand
b) The women that I do find attractive of a particular race that I tend not to favour are often not as attractive as they otherwise may be. Put differently, the most attractive woman of this race may come behind many other women from other races as far as attraction is concerned.


Listen, I don't see a woman, identify her race, and then proceed to determine how attractive she is. It is an impulse. It is a feeling. Certain skin tones and features attract me more than others. That fucking simple.

I want you to read the last two lines. They are CRITICAL. Read them several times, if necessary. Then come back to me if you've still go an issue.

The last two lines. Ok. The ones where you concede that you discriminate between females according to their skin tone? In my world, that's called racism.
 

Dilbert

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XS+ said:
The last two lines. Ok. The ones where you concede that you discriminate between females according to their skin tone? In my world, that's called racism.
Oh c'mon...that's ridiculous.

You don't have a lot of control -- if any -- over what you are attracted to or what you enjoy: Why is it that I like green beans, and hate peas? How come I like the styling of non-American cars more than domestic cars? Why is it that a girl with curves excites me much more than one who is really skinny? The answer in all cases is...who knows? It's just the way it is.

I know lots of guys who have "types" of women which they are attracted to, and in all cases, it's totally irrational. One guy needs his girl to be well-endowed, another only dates blondes, someone else won't date anyone older than him. COULD they choose to date someone else against their preferences? Yeah...but why? That doesn't make any sense, when the goal is to find someone who excited them on all possible levels.
 

Caddle

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Well I see it like this. My grandmother always told me to like the people who like me, which doesn't include race, skin tone, or all those other bull shit reason some people choose for preferences.
 

Socreges

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XS+ said:
The last two lines. Ok. The ones where you concede that you discriminate between females according to their skin tone? In my world, that's called racism.
In your world, sure. But what IS this world that you live in? Where we're so fucking politically correct that we can't have preferences between skin colour, as we have preferences between hair colour? Where preferring particular features of a woman can be attributed to racism, if they happen to be specific to women of unique colour?

I think I can illustrate my point pretty easily, in that my tastes have nothing to do with racism.

I hate girls with ghost white skin. I tend to be attracted to white women, but not when they're ridiculously pale. Never. Now, is that a race? Am I prejudiced against albino or some stupid shit? What?

Get a clue.
 

XS+

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-jinx- said:
Oh c'mon...that's ridiculous.

You don't have a lot of control -- if any -- over what you are attracted to or what you enjoy: Why is it that I like green beans, and hate peas? How come I like the styling of non-American cars more than domestic cars? Why is it that a girl with curves excites me much more than one who is really skinny? The answer in all cases is...who knows? It's just the way it is.

You're right, we don't have much control over who we're attracted to. However, that's not what Socreges is arguing. He willfully refuses to acknowledge that there are just as many beautiful non-whites as there are whites. He comes into this predisposed against non-whites, reducing what can only be described as irrational prejudice to personal preference. The variety of shapes and colors one can attribute to non-white females -- African, Asian, Latina -- is multitudinous.

I tend to be attracted to white women,

This says it all. Perhaps you come from a background where your exposure to other races is limited. If so, I can understand your preference. I've mingled with so many different cultures, that such a preference is alien and warped, to me.
 

Dilbert

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XS+ said:
You're right, we don't have much control over who we're attracted to. However, that's not what Socreges is arguing. He willfully refuses to acknowledge that there are just as many beautiful non-whites as there are whites.
I think you're missing my point entirely. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. To him, there are some women which don't strike him as beautiful. That doesn't mean that you or anyone else can't think that they're beautiful. All judgments about beauty are by DEFINITION personal.

I REALLY don't understand why you are so insistent on this "racism" thing. It doesn't make any sense.
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Anyone that discriminates between races, when deciding whom to date, is a borderline racist.


The fuck?! That's such bullsh!t. Your whole post.
 

Chipopo

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However, that's not what Socreges is arguing. He willfully refuses to acknowledge that there are just as many beautiful non-whites as there are whites.

:lol wow.... you're unbelievable.
 

levious

That throwing stick stunt of yours has boomeranged on us.
Having a preference is fine... saying you would never date X race is bordering on racist, not saying I find one race more or most attractive.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
LOOKING FOR A SAFE STANCE ON RACIAL DISCRIMINATION AND THE OPPOSITE SEX?

NEITHER AM I. G'DAY, SIR.
 

Socreges

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XS+ said:
You're right, we don't have much control over who we're attracted to. However, that's not what Socreges is arguing. He willfully refuses to acknowledge that there are just as many beautiful non-whites as there are whites.
What the hell are you talking about? Seriously, do you have a learning disability?

This says it all. Perhaps you come from a background where your exposure to other races is limited. If so, I can understand your preference. I've mingled with so many different cultures, that such a preference is alien and warped, to me.
I live in fucking Greater Vancouver. One of the most multi-cultural areas in the world. We have a HUGE Asian population, for instance, and yet I find myself attracted to few. We don't have many Colombians/Brazilians/etc, and nonetheless I find myself most attracted to them. They are "non-white". How do they fit into your purported equation? Huh?
 
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The term "racist" has lost all meaning.

Recognizing differences between different ethnicities isn't at all equivalent to the traditional meaning of the word. The general sentiment behind the term has traditionally been (or at least, as i see it) chalking up negative/positive attributes to one's race when it either is not causally related or the relationship between the two are largely speculative.

His preferences for certain sets of features can be attributed to his socialization, most likely. You can hardly stick that to someone. It's a bit of a stretch to call that racism.

You're right, we don't have much control over who we're attracted to. However, that's not what Socreges is arguing. He willfully refuses to acknowledge that there are just as many beautiful non-whites as there are whites.

Unless you're pulling this from another thread.... no.
 

Socreges

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McLesterolBeast said:
His preferences for certain sets of features can be attributed to his socialization, most likely. You can hardly stick that to someone. It's a bit of a stretch to call that racism.
A 'bit' of a stretch? Choose your words more carefully. I mean, how are your tastes determined?

Regardless, I think its both genetic and experiential.
 
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