Shut0wen
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This is what i think, theres a fucking majority of gen z that base there whole looks off characters from stranger things, there mentally retarded and wont bring back the flame pants from the 90s
Why are younger generations embracing the retro game revival? [Guardian]
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killatopak
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I watch old movies too. It's just a question whether the content is good enough for my time or not.
I played games made before I was born as well.
I played games made before I was born as well.
ArtHands
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Seems to align with the Mat's numbers regarding modern consoles hardware spending. I have certainly noticed a rise of such retro/cosy gamers content on instagram and tiktok in the past year or so.
Interesting but not really surprising to hear the younger generations already know how to run emulation on PC
Interesting but not really surprising to hear the younger generations already know how to run emulation on PC
IAmRei
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Reminds me to NewRetroWave genre in music, its actually synth music in 80s vein. Which an era i often to listen. And say what? I nostalgic over nothing, there is fake nostalgia on the musics. I heard the sounds and tunes, feels like i had memories, but its not there. There is almost no music like NewRetroWave back in the 80s. Similar but not the same, and yet still brings memories that never was there.
I'm kind of difficult to say it, you will know if you hear the songs of this genre.
Similar with new "retro" games. The veins are similar, but You will almost never see that kind of graphic in older era. Just looks kinda same but it is acually not.
I'm kind of difficult to say it, you will know if you hear the songs of this genre.
Similar with new "retro" games. The veins are similar, but You will almost never see that kind of graphic in older era. Just looks kinda same but it is acually not.
BattleScar
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Because they're fun?
Why do people still read books? Or watch movies?
Fucking dumbasses, I swear.
Why do people still read books? Or watch movies?
Fucking dumbasses, I swear.
Hugare
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I agree, but today we find "boring walk sequence", lengthy cutscenes and other just as boring stuff in pretty much any genre.
And variety was SO much better back then. PS2/GC generation had crazy variety of games. Today we find the same mechanics over and over again.
this is because the internet provides a layer of abstraction from experiencing these things in real life and these days when new trends and fads go viral, it's for different reasons than what they were before internet, when it was just mainly word of mouth, people you know and based more on artistic merit as a result.
also, something tells me that with the internet being an internationally accessible resource, for art forms that originate within internet communities, you lose any of the locality and variation in art that naturally arises from diversity of culture and country of origin.
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cinnamonandgravy
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old games are really good.
really just a matter of time before young people discover them.
really just a matter of time before young people discover them.
StereoVsn
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It's basically a lot more expensive and risky to try something new now days due to development time and cost. A single failure can sink a studio.
Hudo
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Because games back then were a one-and-done product, which is comforting on multiple fronts. And also, people still gave a shit about game design and not using video games as a medium to tell their mediocre stories because they couldn't get a movie writer gig and are too bad to be an actual author (of books).
polybius80
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I think its very simple, a fun game is a fun game and there is a huge amount of good games from back in the day specially when we consider they weren't restricted in their development because DEI/ESG politics, while graphics are very important it doesn't mean that every single games has to have cutting edge graphics and if we consider that lot of phone games doesnt look better than games back in the day then its more easier for young people to adapt to them, I was yesterday looking at a macross game for switch but then I remember the amazing macross games from back in the day for snes and playstation I played them(with questionable legality), and also the ones that are full free movement 3d mech games that sill look and play amazing for PS2 and even for PS1, so if you like macross and play the switch game you dont have to stop there you can go back to those amazing games from the past that are as good if not better than games form today and in other genres that are not available today and you wont see hikaru/rick hunter as a black asian girl in a lesbian love tirangle with lynn minmay and misa
Punished Miku
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Shits_McGiggles
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But Jim Ryan told me nobody plays old games?
darrylgorn
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Asking why kids like cool, 2D games?
Is it not self-evident?
Is it not self-evident?
March Climber
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Your thread's premise was created out of spite (a.k.a. ____ must suffer because I did). This thread's premise isn't.So I randomly made this thread about a reset for the kids before I went to sleep last night then wake up to this lol.
With the next generation of consoles I'm hoping for a reset to simple graphics (for the kids)
The older generations had the chance to witness games going from simple blocks moving around on screen up to what we have now. I think next generation would actually be a good time for a reset as we move into full Ray-Tracing & Volume Rendering . The last real reset that we had was going from...www.neogaf.com
NeoIkaruGAF
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I… really don't think they are.
If some actually are, most of them wouldn't last an afternoon without savestates.
You'll know Gen Z is truly into this "revival" when articles about how "problematic" old games are get published on a weekly basis.
Until then, I'll assume it's just people fiddling around with emulators for five minutes and giving up when they realize that there's no tutorials or handholding, you have to read dialogues, and the games don't automatically save your progress.
If some actually are, most of them wouldn't last an afternoon without savestates.
You'll know Gen Z is truly into this "revival" when articles about how "problematic" old games are get published on a weekly basis.
Until then, I'll assume it's just people fiddling around with emulators for five minutes and giving up when they realize that there's no tutorials or handholding, you have to read dialogues, and the games don't automatically save your progress.
Rayderism
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Retro games are easy to acquire and you can have hundreds or thousands of them, and all those games take up less space than one modern game, especially when talking about retro games made before optical disks. Also, since there are hundreds or thousands of retro games, you are sure to find something to play, as opposed to that one modern game that you found you didn't like, or got tired of playing. Even if you only play one round on a retro game, since you have hundreds or thousands of them, you still have games for days.
For example, I have one of those multi-cade arcade machines that came with 300 built-in games (AtGames Legends Ultimate, or ALU), but I also added literally thousands more retro games to it. Everything from retro arcade games to legacy console emulation to old computer systems. I've been playing on that more than my PS5 for the last couple weeks. Games. For. Days. And besides the price of the cab and a couple flashdrives, those thousands of added games cost nothing but a little time to gather. And I've only used 2 of the 3 popular methods of adding games to it, so I could still add more.
Is it any wonder, in these overly expensive times we are living in, that people are getting into cheaper alternatives for gaming? Retro gaming is a game hoarder's treasure trove, it costs MUCH less and you get MUCH more for your HDD space than modern games could ever provide.
For example, I have one of those multi-cade arcade machines that came with 300 built-in games (AtGames Legends Ultimate, or ALU), but I also added literally thousands more retro games to it. Everything from retro arcade games to legacy console emulation to old computer systems. I've been playing on that more than my PS5 for the last couple weeks. Games. For. Days. And besides the price of the cab and a couple flashdrives, those thousands of added games cost nothing but a little time to gather. And I've only used 2 of the 3 popular methods of adding games to it, so I could still add more.
Is it any wonder, in these overly expensive times we are living in, that people are getting into cheaper alternatives for gaming? Retro gaming is a game hoarder's treasure trove, it costs MUCH less and you get MUCH more for your HDD space than modern games could ever provide.
Wrong I said let them witness the growing pains so they will have memories of how things changed when the new games & consoles come out.
Im talking about starting with the best ray-traced graphics the next generation can give us with simple geometry then it gets better & more complex as the new hardware comes out.
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Deerock71
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March Climber
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But you and I both know that's not how it works when it comes to ray tracing. That's why I'm saying it's out of spite, because you want them to experience graphical growing pains, just because.
Evil Calvin
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Why? ....because most games suck these days.
Little Chicken
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Often I enjoy the simplicity of a sidescroller, I think this is why I enjoy Metroidvanias so much.
64gigabyteram
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It's not because of wokeness or modern games sucking. Most Gen z don't care about the former and the latter simply isn't true.
It's because they are cheap. You can emulate up to ps2 on a decent phone, and store entire rom libraries on a 256gb SD card. The economy sucks and no one is gonna be out here paying 70 dollars for a game, especially kids/teenagers/starving college students. It's just cause they're accessible.
And this is coming from an actual Gen Z who's also talked to other kids- I think my opinion matters more here.
It's because they are cheap. You can emulate up to ps2 on a decent phone, and store entire rom libraries on a 256gb SD card. The economy sucks and no one is gonna be out here paying 70 dollars for a game, especially kids/teenagers/starving college students. It's just cause they're accessible.
And this is coming from an actual Gen Z who's also talked to other kids- I think my opinion matters more here.
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Guilty_AI
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I do think there's still some truth to this though, more specifically most modern AAA simply not being worth the price tag (besides retro, many gen z are also playing indie games). Wokeness also directly affects the quality of the story/presentation of the game even if a person doesn't particularly care about it, making it less appealing overall.
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SF Kosmo
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The younger generation isn't growing up in an era of graphics wars like we did. For them, pixel art or blocky polys have always just been an aesthetic choice, not a technical limitation, and games like Minecraft and Among Us are massive hits with kids.
So yeah, when they see something that looks like it's from generations past, they don't necessarily see it as dated the way that kids raised on SNES would have looked at Atari.
So yeah, when they see something that looks like it's from generations past, they don't necessarily see it as dated the way that kids raised on SNES would have looked at Atari.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
To most, no video game is worth more than 50 bucks no matter how good it may be. 90+ Metacritic simply doesn't make the value of the dollar go up.
Many of these kids are still in school or college, and don't have salaries. Some of them need to pay for their own food and clothing. Needless to say a great video game can wait...
And as for the wokeness thing, many of the aesthetic choices you guys attribute to wokeness have been in games popular with gen z (fortnite, apex, valorant) for years now. We are kind of used to that stuff.
Puscifer
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Also, don't forget some of these AMAZING ways to emulate these days both software and hardware.
The Miyoo Minis, RG35XX, Retroid Pockets being crazy cheap and available.
Budget emulation APU powered pcs that are doing every console up to switch in great quality for a couple hundred bucks
The steam deck can boot into batocera and just be an on the go emulation station
We have OLED gameboy color mods, FPGAs, Analogue Pockets, super NTS, IPS mods for GBA and psp so you can go back and experience older consoles even better.
There's truly a renaissance in the retro scene and I love it.
Cringe response. Maybe they like it because it's just fun and as I mentioned in my post we have great ways to experience titles like never before? I would 100% love to go back in time and play some titles like Silent Hill 3 on an OLED for the first time
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
It's also why many of them stick to a couple games like minecraft, roblox, and fortnite. 2 of the aforementioned are free and all 3 are very accessible and somewhat easy to run, a deadly combination for most Gen z ers. If they are on consoles maybe add cod and fifa
Other games might look really cool to them but the price tag turns people off
Other games might look really cool to them but the price tag turns people off
SportsFan581
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I'd say it is because there were a lot of great retro games and these younger folks are just finding them and realizing that these kind of games were fun also.
Guilty_AI
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It's less about the aesthetics and more about characters and writing. Naturally that's only really valid for story-driven games, i truly doubt anyone would care about this stuff in a f2p competitive game.
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IAmRei
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Thoughtful. With internet, everyone have more information as long as they are trying. And give more edge for people who have curiousity more. And sometimes stumbled upon new horizon and new views. Good answer Buddy, i think i have understand now. And some of GenZ in my studio (while not all) open to new horizons by discussing lot of things. I teach them about many things which sometimes buried on the internet. Especially retro games, and they sometimes tried to understand histories of certain genres they never knew. Maybe they are just curious persons as general.
64gigabyteram
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Probably cause a kid got famous with tetris and tiktok people purely care about fame
Also these posts are honestly pessimistic, cynical and admittedly piss me off
for one thing if people like you could beat those games there's really no reason why some kid with dozens of online guides and savestates to guide him wouldn't.
Moreover tiktok plays a factor but sometimes people just want to enjoy good games. Do you not think that retro games are enjoyable? This movement wouldn't get started if they didn't delight in playing old games now did they?
Not to mention that this has been a thing with younger gamers for years. I've known kids who learnt how to emulate at single digit ages, and I am one of them myself lol. This trend hardly is anything new and I'm sure it predates the big old tiktok boogeyman you think everyone under the age of 40 worships
Lambogenie
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I'm an old git. Kids are trend chasing gits more than ever thanks to social media.
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Lambogenie
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Your mum is cringe
Puscifer
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Kill yourself.Your mum is cringe
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
That's fucking lame dude.
If you're gonna send suicide encouragement you should use the lowtiergod version
He didn't like Super Mario World and said it looked old and bad? Throw away the whole kid.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
He started playing 16 bit Sonic and cuphead, give him a couple and he'll be playing 2d mario soon.
If not he should be given mario wonder.
StreetsofBeige
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Easier games. Less attention span needed.
They just released a new version of Scrabble aimed at the younger crowd because traditional Scrabble is too competitive, hard and wordy. A game where all you got to have is have a half decent vocabulary, combined with basic strategies how to use the S properly and not opening up the board too much giving opponents opportunity to score big points. A game invented around WWII is somehow too hard to comprehend.
www.bbc.com
They just released a new version of Scrabble aimed at the younger crowd because traditional Scrabble is too competitive, hard and wordy. A game where all you got to have is have a half decent vocabulary, combined with basic strategies how to use the S properly and not opening up the board too much giving opponents opportunity to score big points. A game invented around WWII is somehow too hard to comprehend.
Scrabble: Mattel launches new version of game which is 'less competitive'
Mattel says the new board is designed to be accessible for those who find word games intimidating.
www.bbc.com
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64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
Old games are easier all of a sudden?
JimboJones
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I think most people like variety and with some games simply not well represented these days it's pretty easy to turn to such a large backlog of retro games to scratch that itch.