Evangelicals vote for Republicans
Are liberals ever going to stop looking for other groups to blame for their own fuckup?
The ones that vote for Republicans knowingly, they are all going to hell if there's one.
Heaven will be a shit place anyway if it's full of these people, Hell might be a better alternative.
There isn't a hell. Being an evangelical has nothing to do with what the bible says.
Evangelicals vote Republican.
Kind of unrelated, but if I was still a believer in scripture, I don't know how it wouldn't be obvious that he is the/an anti-Christ. There is nothing Christ-like about him and yet many followers are flocking to him.
I feel like this has to be discussion among those denominations that preach end times gospels. (Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses, etc) Curious to know the dialogue going on within those churches.
One word: abortion. It's the single biggest reason why most Catholics vote, so it's not surprising Trump won a majority there.52% of Catholics?????
He shit on the fucking Pope!
Shameful!
I mean, it would be nice at least for the media to be willing to say "white evangelicals voted for a man who will attempt to bring white supremacy so that they can get more dead Muslims and fewer abortions."
The media coddles white evangelicals so much that it's irritating.
They're a lost cause so this isn't really a strategy thing, it's just irritating how little they get blamed for destroying U.S. hegemony considering that they are the main force behind it.
I was telling people before the election.. if the people in my life that I know (Women age 40+) that call themselves christians have any say... its 100% about abortion. And they would vote for Trump.. no matter how obvious it was he was a piece of shit as a human and would not even consider stepping foot in a church unless he planned to buy it and flatten it one day.
They saw Hillary as a baby killer... and thats it.. thats all that mattered to them. When you consider the supreme court as part of this debate.
I would like to see this divided further by what these people make financially.
It's "funny" on how people from the SAME RELIGION, vote so differently.
Like 10% of black evangelicals vote for Republicans >_>
The anti-Christ would be way better at pretending to be Christian than Trump is, that's one of the main parts of the anti-Christ myth IIRC. Trump's performance about caring about religion is one of the worst I've seen from any public figure.
lol not all christians think the same
it's why there are hundreds of different denominations within Protestantism and loads more "non-denominational" churches
every time a christian disagrees with their church, they run out and make up their own new one
Title is somewhat misleading. It is says white evangelical Christians over 80%. What is the actual percentage when minority evangelical Christians are included?
Which doesn't make sense to me because Clinton is Christian too. The good Lord could have done his work through her. But no let's go with the man that is on record saying he grabs the pussies of random women and has spent his entire life avoiding giving any money back to those poorer than he is.
There is one major reason why Trump won among republican voters. Look at the NYT exit polls:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/08/us/politics/election-exit-polls.html
"Best description of vote" for Trump voters:
42%: I strongly favor my candidate (53% Hillary)
51%: I dislike the other candidate
There ya go. 51% of Trump voters voted for Trump because they didn't want to vote for Hillary.
Democrats lost because Hillary was their candidate. Can spin it a million different ways but end of the day that is the reason. There are some tweaks dems need to do for 2018 and 2020 but the biggest would be, putting up a candidate more people want to vote for.
I remember a good quote on thatDo we know how they voted in the primaries? I just mean of all the fucking options, why him?
From the perspective of the Southern evangelicals Ive spoken to in South Carolina, they dont have any qualms about admitting that Trump is not a good Christian. They have no illusions about his unbelief. The difference is that while they believe Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio would be one more round of good soldiers for their cause, they think Donald Trump would be a tank.
Evangelical Christians overwhelmingly voted for a guy who's had three wives and bragged about sexual assault. Dem traditional morals.
Yeah those damn Mormons and Amish are definitely extremists!I prefer to call them Christian extremists.
And yes I consider them just as toxic as Muslim extremists.
I've seen plenty of people blaming them, and rightfully so. As a Christian who happily voted against Trump, I'm really ashamed of many of my friends and family who voted for him. Especially after stuff like this:
Evangelical Christians overwhelmingly voted for a guy who's had three wives and bragged about sexual assault. Dem traditional morals.
Do you have a lot of "friends" that hate you? I mean I can see why, but I'm just curious.I do this all of the time. I blame uneducated white people and evangelical Christians. My uneducated Christian friends hate me.
Because everyone already expected them to vote for Trump, they're not an interesting part of an explanation for Trump. If I look out my second-floor window and see you walking below, and then I drop a baseball on your head, you might ask: "Why?" You are not looking for an explanation involving gravity, even though in some sense that's the most important thing going on.
So people might focus instead on voters that they didn't expect to vote for Trump. This is an explanation aimed at filling the gaps in our understanding. We knew he'd get 40% of the vote because of groups like white evangelicals, but what actually put Trump over the top?
Or they focus on people who they feel should have known better, like third party voters or people who stayed home or whatever. The idea here is more that you expect to be opposed by your enemies, but not by people who are on your side. If you're fighting a war and the enemy succeeds in winning a big battle because some of your soldiers who were supposed to be there felt like taking a nap instead, you're going to blame those soldiers. You're going to be angrier at them than at the enemy.
One word: abortion. It's the single biggest reason why most Catholics vote, so it's not surprising Trump won a majority there.
Because everyone already expected them to vote for Trump, they're not an interesting part of an explanation for Trump. If I look out my second-floor window and see you walking below, and then I drop a baseball on your head, you might ask: "Why?" You are not looking for an explanation involving gravity, even though in some sense that's the most important thing going on.
Huh? I blame them all the time. They aren't really all that different from "radical Islam".
Do you have a lot of "friends" that hate you? I mean I can see why, but I'm just curious.
Because at some point Democrats gotta stop with "Blame" and figure out how to get more people over to their brand, their way of thinking, their side. And just being angry and wagging a finger accusing people does fuck all to that end.
I want to be really clear that I am only talking about evangelical Christians. Christians of other denominations typically voted in a much more responsible way, are comfortable with science in the public sphere, have a love of democracy, and so on. This is not an "anti-Christian" post, this is a post calling out a group of dangerous fanatics that are taking control of our country.
Nobody expected that though because, as Gotchaye said, evangelical Christians are a known factor. Everybody already knows they're hypocrites who will vote for anyone who says he'll get rid of abortion.A reduced turnout would at least indicate some of these people had a modicum of the principles they claimed to have.
Actually people didn't expect that, at least not the the degree of support he received. People actually expected his support from evangelicals to be lower, at least in comparison to more "moral" presidential candidates (i.e. all the other R candidates).
A reduced turnout would at least indicate some of these people had a modicum of the principles they claimed to have.