Why isn't asexuality included in pride?
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Astral Dog
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I thought it was at some point 🤔
There needs to be more awareness overall
There needs to be more awareness overall
James Scott
Banned
Pretty sure laws have never forbid you from being asexual.
...unless I'm mistaking that for something else
...unless I'm mistaking that for something else
That's what the Q in LGBTQ is for. Queer in this instance references pretty much anything outside of straight not already covered by the first 4 letters. There are so many possible variations in human sexuality that the term would be impossibly long otherwise. You could add every letter of the alphabet in there. Q is fine.
Forced marriages
Drillary Clinton
Banned
As far as I know it is now. LGBTQIA, which now includes intersex and asexuality.
Astral Dog
Member
I think a problem is you are not going to sell someone "hi im Asexual"ever because its a bit complicated to explain from low sexual drive/libido
Forced marriages were/are bad for all orientations.
Phobophile
A scientist and gentleman in the manner of Batman.
LGBTQ+
They get a plus sign.
They get a plus sign.
Prophet Steve
Member
That doesn't really have much to do with asexuality.
Astral Dog
Member
Ok i thought the Q was for Questioning XD
I've heard it used as both.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Yup, forced marriage isn't something that's against asexuality specifically.
EDIT: beaten
Hella Lugosi
Member
It already is there depending on who you ask. There's been a discourse war going on tumblr for a while now.
Ace/aro covers a whole spectrum of identities and it's possible for a person to be ace/aro but still be cis and het.
For example, somebody could identify as a cisgender aromantic heterosexual man ("I just wanna bang chicks I don't wanna date or marry them"), and maybe someone like that shouldn't have a voice in LGBT spaces.
Ace/aro covers a whole spectrum of identities and it's possible for a person to be ace/aro but still be cis and het.
For example, somebody could identify as a cisgender aromantic heterosexual man ("I just wanna bang chicks I don't wanna date or marry them"), and maybe someone like that shouldn't have a voice in LGBT spaces.
DR2K
Banned
Yeah but then people of color would start thinking they have a place in the gay community.
Impeccable
Member
Assumed LGBTQ+ covered everything.
Prototype Viktor
Member
No
LGBTQAI+ = lesbian, gay, bi, trans, queer/questioning, asexual, intersex
People use to stop at the T, now most people stop at the Q
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
You can have high sex drive/libido and still be asexual.
It is usually...more so no religious preference or none or whatever.
I've never heard Q as Questioning (which very much seems like a different meaning than Queer so I don't really think they're interchangeable), but that's how it was explained to me at an event at the latest pride festival here in Amsterdam, since I didn't know exactly what Queer meant.
Of course, it's important to keep in mind that there's no 'official' version, as this gets adapted and adjusted all the time by different communities all over the world. But the way it was explained to me was that Queer is everything outside of cisnormative. Which technically would also encompass the LGBT part of the equation of course.
In the end, many different groups there use different terms on their boats/stands/flags/whatever. In theory everyone is represented no matter what you use, just pick one you feel comfortable with and describes you. So to the OP, there's no 1 true way of saying it, but there are options where asexuality is explicitly included.
Is that a widely used thing? I would think Uncommon is a very weird word to use, as the message is usually that all these sexual orientations are actually very common and should be considered normal. Maybe I'm interpreting it wrong.
i'll refer to myself as queer over 'uncommon' any day, thanks. you can keep it.
more on topic, the longer acronym LGBTQIA is inclusive of asexual people. it does *not* stand for allies, as much as allies would love that lol.
hawkshockey11
Banned
It's already been posted but aces have not and will never experience the same oppression that gay or trans people have/will so there is not a need to colocate them in the lgbt community. You can be cis, het and asexual and live a totally unoppressed life.
Not to say there aren't unique problems for aces that demand community and education but it shouldn't be piggybacked on to existing lgbt communities.
Not to say there aren't unique problems for aces that demand community and education but it shouldn't be piggybacked on to existing lgbt communities.
playingwithfire
Member
I've always wondered why the L was needed when the word gay covers lesbians too
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Gay typically refers to homosexual men only.
That's regional actually. Here in The Netherlands, Gay (or 'Homo', which I know sounds ridiculously official (or as an insult) in English, but here it's perfectly normal) is widely used for both gay men and women. I'm pretty sure that's the case in many countries. Lesbian is of course just gay women, not men. But gay or homo (at least in my circles) is used more often, simply because it's easier/quicker to say in conversation I guess. If a gay woman here would describe her own sexuality, she would sooner say 'Ik ben gay/homo' (I am gay) than 'Ik ben een lesbienne/lesbisch' (I'm lesbian).
Actually, I'm pretty sure most English speaking areas have the same habit.
It doesn't really matter in the end of course - like I said before, there's nothing really official about it and everyone gets to describe themselves in a way they're comfortable with.
hawkshockey11
Banned
I see it be adopted by lesbian woman a fair amount. I am not entirely sure if gay men are ok with that though.
playingwithfire
Member
Not really. Gay Pride. The Gay Community. Gay People. These all typically mean both gay men and women.
And I've heard a lot of women refer to themselves as gay.
GuessMyUserName
Member
There's also 2S after that. I've also seen two Qs for Queer & Questioning.
I thought this to be the case, a broad umbrella term. But then there's the lgbtqia for specificity?
No but society makes you feel really awkward and different for it.
"Wait, so you don't want to have sex? Like ever? How do you date people?"
CrocMother
Banned
Pride in being able to openly express who you are? It's not rocket science...
Coriolanus
Banned
isn't a competition, mate.
Gay and Lesbian individuals have nearly completely different social spheres and different priorities when it comes to activism and such. The distinction's warranted.
AntiFacebook
Member
Beause their lives are already easier than anyone else's, including straights
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Is an absence of interest something that needs to be openly expressed?
I get that asexual people will face a lot of misunderstanding about their orientation but there's a wide gulf between misunderstanding and hatred, oppression and violence, which is what most other LGBTQ etc people deal with now or have dealt with historically.
I know the intuition is that progressive movements should be all-inclusive, as that is the general spirit of progressivism, but in this case I'd understand if the LGBT community doesn't think this issue should be lumped in with them. I don't know how they feel broadly, of course, but I'd assume they don't believe asexuals share their exact same struggle.
is this a Doom cheat code or
GuessMyUserName
Member
Sounds like one of those ignorant "bi people have it the best since they have double the potential partners!" comments.
EdibleKnife
Member
It unlocks us. The Big Fuckin' Gays
But if someone complained about heterosexual pride you probably would bury this idea.
"Why aren't you married yet?"
"I'm asexual."
"Oh, you just haven't met the right person yet."
That's not oppressive at all clearly.
ace people still want love and companionship, which we all know is rough to get. they just don't really have desire to get in someone or someone get into them.