Log4Girlz said:I'm gonna repost this from another thread. With everything we know (Reference BMF's post), what do you expect from the Cafe:
Scenario 1: Xbox 360 level (not much more or less)
Scenario 2: Notch above 360 (running current gen games, regardless of complexity at 1080p)
Scenario 3: Significantly above 360 (running any current game games at 1080p, 60fps with improves textures and IQ)
Scenario 4: Next-gen .5 (Runs current-gen games as listed above, but in addition has just enough horsepower to create innovative new engines to provide graphics and performance never before seen at home, but below expectations for the next Xbox and Playstation)
Scenario 5: True Next-Gen (Xbox 720 or PS4 level, or just a hair or two below)
I'm expecting scenario 2. You will have developers who may want to show graphics beyond what the 360 can do by just lowering the resolution.
BMF said:same exact post as the other ten times.
Sadist said:^_^
I love Smash, I do but I can't honestly think of what they can add in a new iteration.
From The Dust said:People need to stop saying the 720/PS4 will be 2x (or whatever) the current HD twins. I find it highly unlikely
From The Dust said:People need to stop saying the 720/PS4 will be 2x (or whatever) the current HD twins. I find it highly unlikely
JazzmanZ said:I could think of other things like a Adventure mode that uses enemies and bosses from the entire Nintendoverse or Music can be placed on any stage, but the point is there is still a lot that can be done with the series, Nintendo isn't that dumb to just drop off a megaton hit like this.
Log4Girlz said:IF Cafe goes for a high-end R700 part, which is a few years old as it is, they certainly won't blow the Cafe out of the water. But they will be true next-gen parts.
comedy bomb said:I'm lost
uh they will be.From The Dust said:People need to stop saying the 720/PS4 will be 2x (or whatever) the current HD twins. I find it highly unlikely
Log4Girlz said:You are at Neo-Gaf.
Definintely not "next gen" leap (which to me means absolutely nothing).THE:MILKMAN said:What do you expect of the PS4/720?
From The Dust said:Definintely not "next gen" leap (which to me means absolutely nothing). I do expect another GCN/Xbox/PS2 style comparison.
From The Dust said:Definintely not "next gen" leap (which to me means absolutely nothing).
I do expect another GCN/Xbox/PS2 style comparison.
If MS were to join Nintendo with a reasonably close console power wise while Sony decided to derp it up again it would doom Sony for sure.Log4Girlz said:If MS doesn't go full "Next-gen" with their hardware, I'm inclined to believe Sony will. They will make sure its not priced at 500 dollars and make sure they don't take a bath financially. A cheap blu-ray drive will help immensely. The NGP, though not bleeding edge technology, is still monstrously powerful.
antonz said:.
If 2/3 of the consoles go in one direction the odd man out is screwed.
Log4Girlz said:If MS doesn't go full "Next-gen" with their hardware, I'm inclined to believe Sony will. They will make sure its not priced at 500 dollars and make sure they don't take a bath financially.
comedy bomb said:The Wii sold okay I think.
THE:MILKMAN said:What do you expect of the PS4/720?
Akai said:So go all-out on the hardware, not price it high, yet still not make a loss? Aha...
antonz said:Thats because Nintendo had a crazy enough concept to appeal to a broader audience. If it comes down to MS/Nintendo relatively equal and Sony trying to blow them out of the water it will simply end up with MS/Nintendo being the primary source of games and Sony getting inferior ports
brain_stew said:How exactly would they be "inferior" ports? They wouldn't make full use of the system but they'd still be the superior version.
Thats if developers decide to invest the extra funds to take advantage of possabilities the PS4 would offer.brain_stew said:How exactly would they be "inferior" ports? They wouldn't make full use of the system but they'd still be the superior version.
antonz said:Thats because Nintendo had a crazy enough concept to appeal to a broader audience. If it comes down to MS/Nintendo relatively equal and Sony trying to blow them out of the water it will simply end up with MS/Nintendo being the primary source of games and Sony getting inferior ports
Log4Girlz said:I'm gonna repost this from another thread. With everything we know (Reference BMF's post), what do you expect from the Cafe:
Scenario 1: Xbox 360 level (not much more or less)
Scenario 2: Notch above 360 (running current gen games, regardless of complexity at 1080p)
Scenario 3: Significantly above 360 (running any current game games at 1080p, 60fps with improves textures and IQ)
Scenario 4: Next-gen .5 (Runs current-gen games as listed above, but in addition has just enough horsepower to create innovative new engines to provide graphics and performance never before seen at home, but below expectations for the next Xbox and Playstation)
Scenario 5: True Next-Gen (Xbox 720 or PS4 level, or just a hair or two below)
I'm expecting scenario 2. You will have developers who may want to show graphics beyond what the 360 can do by just lowering the resolution.
You are right inferior probably isnt the term I should have used. Its just going to be a case of If MS and Ninty are close they will dictate the entire generation. Sony will only benefit from their own development studios on power if they go that route.Father_Brain said:In that scenario, PS4 would actually get superior ports (framerate, resolution, effects), barring a bizarre, difficult-to-develop-for architecture. Whether that would actually equate to much of an advantage would depend on Sony's launch date and price relative to its competitors.
In any case, no next-gen console will get third-party exclusives solely by virtue of its specs. That era is long over.
herzogzwei1989 said:I expect 1 GB RAM minium, 2 GB max.
Hiltz said:I
I don't think Nintendo would go as far as supporting the next Unreal game engine even if it mean a better chance of achieving stronger and more consistent third-party support. Nintendo would perhaps try to offer other ways to entice third-parties like with an improved online service with better DLC and demo support. Of course, there's also the potentially unique features of the home console's controller as well.
Hiltz said:But would would be the minimum specifications necessary in order to run UE3 ? For all we know, Nintendo may just try to turn Project Cafe into an Xbox 360 1.5. Would that be enough?
From The Dust said:what? if it's above 360, then it WILL support Unreal 3
linko9 said:He's saying NEXT, as in UE4.
linko9 said:He's saying NEXT, as in UE4.
EDIT: NVM (I guess?) I have no idea what's going on here. Bottom line, it will support UE3, but likely not UE4.
An iPhone.Hiltz said:But would would be the minimum specifications necessary in order to run UE3 ? For all we know, Nintendo may just try to turn Project Cafe into an Xbox 360 1.5. Would that be enough?
wsippel said:An iPhone.
Gamer @ Heart said:3GS even. So like 600mhz and 256mb of RAM
The wii 2 has to beat that!
linko9 said:The thing is, Epic has stated that the only reason they aren't calling the Samaritan engine UE4 is because they're waiting for the next generation of consoles to hit; the engine that's made to run on those consoles will be called UE4. And you can bet they're not talking about the Cafe; they're waiting for Sony and MS's next consoles. Obviously, they're only going to bother porting an engine designed to run on more powerful hardware if the Cafe ends up being the home of "hardcore" games (yeah, I hate the term, but I don't what else to say).
Fat Goron said:I've never actually believed this..... but, hell, when I read some things, I do think we've come to a "dead end" in terms of graphics.....
I don't know... I mean, from what I've come to expect from generation leaps, Samaritan would be "pretty reasonable" for a PS4/X720..... and now you guys say there's no way we'll get that from a console by 2013/14.... If not that, then what?
It's a serious question.... what would be "great graphics" for the next generation? Battlefield 3?
Fat Goron said:I've never actually believed this..... but, hell, when I read some things, I do think we've come to a "dead end" in terms of graphics.....
I don't know... I mean, from what I've come to expect from generation leaps, Samaritan would be "pretty reasonable" for a PS4/X720..... and now you guys say there's no way we'll get that from a console by 2013/14.... If not that, then what?
It's a serious question.... what would be "great graphics" for the next generation? Battlefield 3?