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Wii U FAQ, translated from Japanese
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Smiles and Cries
Member
someone in the homebrew types will find ways around this. It could be as easy as moving some files around or editing some numbers but Nintendo is locking this thing down the best they can.
A Human Becoming
More than a Member
I wish Wii U supported bluetooth headsets. 
Oh well.
Oh well.Chû Totoro
Member
No I meant some people could seriously made a thread about this? It 100% logical a last gen system can't play the new Gen's gamesBREAKING NEWS: Can't play Wii U games on Wii
Edit : ok, irony. I should learn...
frankie_baby
Member
I doubt it, there'll be some sort of file/list stored on the internal memory and it'll be a long time (if ever) before anyone gets in to there
I was wanting to know this as well. Maybe if a ton of people email Nintendo.
Thanks, cheese! Although at this point it seems we'll have to wait until that day 1 update goes live to the media (hopefully it releases, before, you know, day 1) to really have all our questions answered. I have long maintained that NoA would wait till the week of launch to do a full Nintendo Direct, so I'll stand by that, sometime between the 13th-15th.
The only thing is even if there is a ND I expect a lot of questions will be left unanswered, just like they were with the JPN ND. Only one more week and people will be able to find out themselves, so there's that.
The only thing is even if there is a ND I expect a lot of questions will be left unanswered, just like they were with the JPN ND. Only one more week and people will be able to find out themselves, so there's that.
AndyMoogle
Member
Or they could just do it like the 360 does it. If you download an item on another console than the one it was bought on, you have to be online to be able to use it. And you can transfer all your licenses over to another console whenever you get a new one.
H_Prestige
Banned
Too much work for no monetary benefit. Simpler to just not allow it.
I've got a question about save data transfers. If I just want to move a save data file, will I have to use the Transfer app? Can I move this daa between Wiis without problem?
Because my SMG file is on my girlfriend's Wii and it's not even connected to the Internet, so she won't be able to download the tool.
Can I move the file from her Wii to mine and then use the app with all my games and files including her SMG save?
Because my SMG file is on my girlfriend's Wii and it's not even connected to the Internet, so she won't be able to download the tool.
Can I move the file from her Wii to mine and then use the app with all my games and files including her SMG save?
Keavy_Rain
Member
More importantly, will my imported purchases be tied to my profile?
I'm OK with buying Wii stuff through the Wii channel on Wii U, I just want to know that $$$ I spent on old games won't be wasted should my Wii U die.
If they are going to allow re-downloads on other systems this is what I expect. You have to transfer the licenses and when you do, that "deactivates" the games on the other system. So games can only be played on one Wii U at a time. Yet you still can transfer. I doubt they would do it PS3 style because they basically give you two copies of a game, Nintendo won't do that.
The Hermit
Member
Thank Lord!
Smiles and Cries
Member
I think everyone should be happy about Wii being cut off from Wii U in every way. We has something totally new from the ground up when it comes to Nintendo Network / eShop
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
omg lol.
I'm hoping people won't be as confused by the Wii U as they were with the 3DS.
Davey Cakes
Member
It's nice, but full integration of old software/shops/points with the new system would be even better.
Basically, Wii U support for Wii content is fully there, but it's not seamless. I was hoping that the Wii U would basically absorb everything from the Wii, but I guess that's impractical. Not complaining.
Yeah, this is kind of the issue. It's not a huge thing but I was mistakenly expecting a "merging" of the systems and services. Seems like a better way to do things, in terms of tying the Wii and Wii U together in perfect harmony. Maybe at some point there will be a merger of sorts or a binding of the services together, and they're just not ready for it yet.
I think the surprising thing is that it appears as though those titles currently available on the Wii Shop, including Wiiware and VC, are NOT going to be available through the Wii U eShop from day 1. There is no "merging" of marketplaces, as there should be, so that those titles we've already bought can be tied to our NNID. We're just starting from scratch, with those VC games buried in Wii mode, rather than proudly shown off in Miiverse. Clunky.
Diddy Kong
Banned
Thanks for the translation!
Still really pissed about WiiWare/ VC only being available on Wii Mode.. I'm not buying all of those titles again for Wii-U..
Still really pissed about WiiWare/ VC only being available on Wii Mode.. I'm not buying all of those titles again for Wii-U..
Cheesemeister
Member
Ugh, I just realized that. Talk about frustrating: no Miiverse forums for VC games.
Yes you WILL! So that you can play SMB on the controller screen!
Corleth the Fey
Member
So no system wide achievement / trophy ability.
I know loads don't care and good on you, but I like them and expect them. So I'll be in no hurry to get one now.
I know loads don't care and good on you, but I like them and expect them. So I'll be in no hurry to get one now.
Smiles and Cries
Member
think about it all those games get HD remakes or coded to play off tv on the gamepad
Nintendo wants money you know
I don't even need upscaling or controller support. I just want a bit of consistency and basic integration into their current system. Leaving the Wii Shop and all its content in the dust is pretty alarming, really.
Have Nintendo even said anything about VC content on the Wii U eShop? Why wouldn't they have what's already available on Wii available from the front end of the Wii U eShop, and use it as an excuse to "reboot" the VC brand?! Surely they're not really going to charge us for the same games again? I can sort of see the justification in charging seperately for handheld and home console versions of the same game, sort of. But seriously, what are they doing this time? So many questions!
Thanks CheeseM.
Looks like I can't transfer my 200 points from the Wii store
Yes you can but you can't spend them if it's not Wii related.. aka wii ware and Wii VC
I wonder if the Wii U has a music player? I don't expect custom soundtracks or anything but in the glimpse we've had of the OS, there wasn't a Nintendo Sound icon.
Which would be sort of strange coming from Wii and then 3DS. and then DSi. Maybe it's part of FW update or a separate download in the eShop or something.
Which would be sort of strange coming from Wii and then 3DS. and then DSi. Maybe it's part of FW update or a separate download in the eShop or something.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
...expected, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
MichaelVash7886
Neo Member
It's entirely possible that Wii VC/Wiiware could be brought over later. I mean given a choice between making sure that VC and Wiiware come over and making sure your online service, which is infinitely more complex than any other online system you've done before it's kinda obvious which they would work on. Keep in mind the current units out there don't have TVii, Miiverse, Wii mode, and most everything related to online. They are making sure all their i's are dotted and t's are crossed.
Starwolf_UK
Member
This reminds me. Given the Gamepad is effectively an interactive video stream and the Iwata Asks basically finds you get less artefacts by rending things a bit differently (like fade-out etc); does this mean VC games might look like bad in places due to not having such things done?
But they understand it won't work on the DS so thats one plus point at least. Its the gap of understanding that the 3DS is more than a DS with 3D (or if its that they do understand, they seriously can't justify the 3DS purchase). The lack of 2D version might be confusing to someone who can buy a PS2 copy of Fifa 13. Still its interesting Layton is the game that shows this. I'd expect to see the same on Super Mario Bros U.
Its a real problem with losing the emphasis on meaningless stats like Blast Processing, bits (are consoles even 64-bit yet?), Teraflops is you can't easily explain the why in a soundbite and sound convincing. People didn't think the SNES was an NES with a new controller as they knew the SNES was a 16-bit
Davey Cakes
Member
I always thought it would be cool if Nintendo could just put sections in the Wii U eShop for Wii content. That is, Wii VC games, WiiWare games, and maybe even full Wii game downloads, all in their own sections of the eShop. It would be a nice way to re-market the VC and WiiWare services, especially in terms of bringing particular previously-released games into the spotlight.
BobJustBob
Member
It's ignorance, not stupidity. Nintendo had the DS, DS Lite, DSi, and DSi XL, all of which played the same games. Then Nintendo comes out with the 3DS and people who know nothing about games are supposed to magically know it's a new system that plays different games? Nintendo failed to differentiate the system with the name and the marketing.
Why even seperate them? What's the difference between Wii VC and Wii U VC? It's the same game. Likewise, Wiiware is a perfectly fine category that can be used to incorporate download releases for Wii U, and can include everything that's been released to date. There is no fear of consumer confusion once the console is in a home and its online store is being explored.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I expect this to happen, even if it is just you click the buy button and it boots into Wii mode and takes you directly into the Wii Shop channel (like how Nintendo channel does it).
Would be neat if it could be loaded onto the Wii NAND via the WiiU eShop. That and shortcuts to Wii mode stuff in a similar vain.
KillerTravis
Banned
Probably depends on the game.
not being able to use wii points, in wii mode only wii controlers will work, these choices are not good for me. i was thinking of trading my wii once i get the new console. all those wii points, d/l games will be useless without a wii controller.
the new console is BC, but not BC :]
the new console is BC, but not BC :]
kobashi100
Banned
I knew people would buy layton thinking it would work on the NDS. These people are very silly!
so because we have to use the Wii shop for Virtual Console software does that mean it is still gonna be super slow with them really small screenshots and that annoying music.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
360 has worked this way for years now.
NCL already has a set price for it.
As MANY people said, the 360 has a solution in place: activate a new system and lose the license to the old one. If they do it that way, whether or not you need to redownload your game (so long as saves aren't tied to the system/game package not a big deal) then it's a non-issue to buy games and have your system break, and if you need to authenticate only one system at a time with the other being deactivated upon logging online then you won't be getting rampant game sharing.
WiiRevolution1
Member
Nintendo just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American people (I'm an expert), but being dumb and not looking things up are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Japan where everyone is smart. If a American buys a WiiU game and it does not work on their Wiis, it brings shame to all Americans, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase games for either the Wii or WiiU systems, nor will they purchase any of Nintendo's games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Nintendo has alienated an entire Country with this move.
Iwata, publicly apologize and cancel WiiU or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Before you use the transfer app.
Just copy the SMG save file to an SD card, and then use the SD card to transfer the save file to your other Wii.
Some games don't allow you to copy and transfer saves, but *I think* you can copy the SMG file without any problems.
sakipon
Member
This is how I understood it. Sounds pretty good to me, though it depends on how many devs end up using it.