Wii U Release Day Thread

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I find it weird that everyone is complaining about the CPU and not complaining about the gamepad itself. I think that it's implemented well. They at least listened to us there.

But damn, you think they could have found some way to switch the Q1 2013 titles with the launch titles. Then everyone would cheer for Pikmin 3, Wonderful 101, etc.

At least I HOPE that they cheer for Wonderful 101. It looks amazing. Don't mess this up Platinum.
 
Nintendo fans can lament the criticisms being lobbed at the Wii U/Nintendo(part of being a Nintendo fan), but it's all fair imo.

Have you looked in these other threads? You're right. The points you mention are all fair criticisms. But that's not the problem. The problem are those jumping in threads just to bash a system they have no interest in. It was much worse in the 360/PS3/Wii days and I fear how next year might be.
 
Have you looked in these other threads? You're right. The points you mention are all fair criticisms. But that's not the problem. The problem are those jumping in threads just to bash a system they have no interest in. It was much worse in the 360/PS3/Wii days and I fear how next year might be.

I don't pay much attention to people without a system bashing it.
 
Have you looked in these other threads? You're right. The points you mention are all fair criticisms. But that's not the problem. The problem are those jumping in threads just to bash a system they have no interest in. It was much worse in the 360/PS3/Wii days and I fear how next year might be.

The vita has gotten this nonstop. I'm pretty immune to it now.
 
I'm not saying all that can't be added. Sony did it. I'm saying Nintendo won't. As for demos, why weren't all the demos for games like Sonic Racing, Mass Effect 3, etc etc ported to the Wii U? It's not Nintendo's fault, but I think they could have encouraged it. People dropping 350 on a new console are going to need as much free content as you can give them. And it would definitely make dropping full price on games that are now significantly cheaper on other consoles more palatable if we could play demos of them first. I'm not saying that's a negative against Nintendo, but it is a legit negative in regards to this console launch.

Sorry but if you already know they can possibly add these features why are you even moaning about it in first place?
 
Sorry but if you already know they can possibly add these features why are you even moaning about it in first place?

Oh for crissakes. Why do you think? Because of Nintendo's history. Because Nintendo are the only company to release a brand new handheld device in the past 2 years that tied every single purchase to the hardware instead of to the user. Then they announce they wont be doing that again with their brand new console....followed shortly thereafter by the idiotic account system on the Wii U. Low expectations. I have them.
 
Who said they can't get demos on the store? Rayman was the only demo confirmed for launch day and we know demos are coming.

Plus accounts and achievements can be added or updated. The account system will likely be updated for sign-ins on other consoles in time. Give them some time.

They had seven years to copy the stuff the 360 had when it launched. That seems like enough time to get some shit done.
 
Nintendo appeals to Nintendo's needs and that's about it. They'll look at what they feel is necessary for their service/hardware, and that's what they'll stick with. It could be something from previous generations or a standard set by another company that they want to adopt, or it could be some totally new, cool feature that nobody has (eg: Miiverse). If it doesn't fit either of these categories, regardless of 'standards' set by the entire fucking industry, you'll be waiting forever before Nintendo gets around to implementing such things, and when they do odds are it will be bare bones and half arsed.

There's obviously the odd exception here and there, but Nintendo dances to the beat of their own drum at the expense of everyone else. Tis the way it is and always will be, to success or demise.

And that's why Nintendo will not implement a proper, global profile based achievements system.
 
Nintendo fans can lament the criticisms being lobbed at the Wii U/Nintendo(part of being a Nintendo fan), but it's all fair imo.

I think it's fair, but I can't deal with the hyperbole. If people talked about things rationally, and level-headed, and like a normal person, I think it would be better for everyone.
 
Tempted to run to target to get scribblenauts but I just bought trine 2 and nano assault off the EShop last night. I've only played the first scribblenauts, how much more have they improved the series?
 
Sorry but if you already know they can possibly add these features why are you even moaning about it in first place?

Because those things should have been there day one. And plus, there's absolutely no guarantee that achievements and a account system will be added. None. If fact I'd go as far to say they will never be implemented.
 
New Console gets announced!

GAF: Hooooolyyy Shit! Let's speculate the hell out of it

More Details surface

Half GAF: Look at dat hot shiiieeet and all them possibilitys!
Other half: ruh-oh!

Launch

Half GAF: Yup, it's all shit!
Other half: what?!

and after that everyone forgets about launch periods till the next console comes.



launches never where really nice. as early adaptor you pay more to get less.
and with the modern day consoles it got evenn worse.
sure thing you have to download a giant patch and after that the shit doesn't even work as advertised.
guess what, that will be standart for comming launches. the more shit the system has included and to do right of the batch the more you going to see fucked up launches.

yupp, the OS is slow as hell and the whole system fucks up waaaay to much at this point, but do people really believe that a system with one gig of ram just for the OS will be that slow and crashy for the rest of it's life span?
that's some crazy talk right there. i for one will be astonished if is will be that bad untill next year.


I'm tipping my hat to this post. *tip*
 
My 3 year old nephew just rocked the Zelda game in Nintendo land, this is some amazing stuff.

Playing games with him never goes well, but the on rails nature of that mini game was perfect for him. He went on a 40 kill streak with the Wiimote!

Amazing.
 
UK gaffers HMV Preorder update- Pre-order update! We have been informed by Nintendo that delivery of the wii u consoles will be between 30th November and 15th December All customers that pre-ordered the Nintendo Land console before Friday the 2nd of November will receive their order on the 30th of November. Customers that ordered Nintendo Land after the 2nd of November will receive their orders between 30th of November and 15th of December. Your pre-orders are safe and we will keep you informed of the stock situation with Nintendo.


Hopefully this means there will be a decent amount of launch stock too? I really don't want to que up for hours at the Oxford Street Midnight launch and not even get a Zombi U bundle...
 
Because those things should have been there day one. And plus, there's absolutely no guarantee that achievements and a account system will be added. None. If fact I'd go as far to say they will never be implemented.
For a company that's been only a game hardware, game publishing and development company, Nintendo has very likely been a novice in the field of web infrastructure since it's not their skill area. I do expect them to rapidly gain the knowledge and technical experience in the coming years though, or at least grab them from their development partners. Miiverse I think is a very good example of that.
 
Achievements will likely never happen. An Account System I would bet on.

The account system is already there. It's just an awful one. I would never assume they'll change it since they're the ones that proposed it, approved it, and then implemented it. It's obviously what they want.
 
For a company that's been only a game hardware, game publishing and development company, Nintendo has very likely been a novice in the field of web infrastructure since it's not their skill area. I do expect them to rapidly gain the knowledge and technical experience in the coming years though, or at least grab them from their development partners. Miiverse I think is a very good example of that.

There is a reason why Nintendo hired Hatena to handle all of their online features including Miiverse. They aren't investing in the information or technology in house and they likely never will. I would expect their relationship to grow with Hatena though, and with them more features/integration... I can't imagine Hatena is just doing this for a short term paycheck... They likely have a long term contract with Nintendo.
 
I feel kinda out of place here. When judging a launch window, I ask myself, "Am I enjoying these games?" and not particularly "How am I liking this OS?"

This time, the answer thus far is, "Why, yes, yes I am, quite much. Thanks for asking!"


Get that filthy "careful reasoning" outta here!

;)
 
heh, that wonderfull smell of new hardware. only a new comic can top that.

you're right about the price in the first few month. but the major part of people that bought the ps3, xbox and the wii did that after they where (more or less) tested buy people like us and pay a lower price. and with the whole online nowadays they get a system with more features and a more stable os.
New book smell is the best smell.

Although new DVD/Blu-ray/Game smell is up there.
 
In many regards it's not terrible, but it's also not remotely good. Installs that take 20-30 minutes (infinitely longer if the game is larger than 2 gig), horrible download speeeds from Nintendo servers, a joke of an account system, a slew of ports that are worse than versions on 7 year old consoles, and 2 games from Nintendo that don't really do anything to show off the supposed power of the console. I can't blame anyone that's let down by what's being offered straight out of the box. Outside of Miiverse, there's not much to cheer about. They can't even get demos on the store. If the next Xbox and PS come out this deficient in so many ways, they better get ripped to shreds. People tend to rip Nintendo less simply because we've learned to have incredibly low expectations (hardware-wise). If Microsoft's next release is like this, the noise will be deafening.

On the upside, it's not like things can get worse. I expect a performance patch for the general OS. Opening settings etc shouldnt take this stupidly long to occur. But sooner than that I expect a patch to fix the netcode that's causing the entire Wii U to die when communications with Miiverse go wrong. That should never happen, and I wonder how many people will be getting their Wii U's "fixed" because they think it's the hardware messing up. What will never be fixed (imo) are the slow installs, the lack of achievements, the bad ports, and the inept account system. All reasons why people like me only buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo-developed games. Not an insult, just a fact of life.

Nintendo fans can lament the criticisms being lobbed at the Wii U/Nintendo(part of being a Nintendo fan), but it's all fair imo.

look... as long as they dont get a hardware failure rate of 60% I am happy.
Maybe I am a fanboy.
 
I feel kinda out of place here. When judging a launch window, I ask myself, "Am I enjoying these games?" and not particularly "How am I liking this OS?"

This time, the answer thus far is, "Why, yes, yes I am, quite much. Thanks for asking!"

Well that's cool, but some of Wii U owners do actually navigate the menus of the system as opposed to the game booting up when the system gets turned on and the extremely slow loading is bothersome

Maybe it's just me
 
Well, I picked up a Wii U tonight. Haven't hooked it up or anything yet but can installs really take up to a half an hour? How long do they take to download typically? (NSMBU, ZombiU)
 
There is a reason why Nintendo hired Hatena to handle all of their online features including Miiverse. They aren't investing in the information or technology in house and they likely never will. I would expect their relationship to grow with Hatena though, and with them more features/integration... I can't imagine Hatena is just doing this for a short term paycheck... They likely have a long term contract with Nintendo.
Yeah, while there definitely are benefits to growing that expertise internally, I can also see why Nintendo would want to outsource this kind of development and just focus on the areas that they are most experienced in. To have created all of Miiverse in two or three years internally from where they stood would have been an impossible challenge. Nintendo TVii is another one, and whatever other complex, large-scale services they would want to create for their platforms.
 
Returned my wiiU to toysrus.
The $400~ feels good back in my bank account.

I'm glad I checked it out, and there's a good chance ill be back later down the road.....

But for now I will continue reading about the system and wait until something comes along that makes wiiu a must have.
 
So is it true that the account system's implementation means that if your console fails you lose all of your purchased items?

No, this myth really needs to end. Even the Wii and DS without account systems didn't let this happen. Nintendo knows everything you purchased and were a system to fail you would be able t download all your software again.
 
No, this myth really needs to end. Even the Wii and DS without account systems didn't let this happen. Nintendo knows everything you purchased and were a system to fail you would be able t download all your software again.

Ok thanks, there does seem to be a lot of confusion out there.

I'm very unlikely to purchase a Wii U yet, but I am interested in seeing how it does/people's impressions nonetheless, so I wanted to be sure on that too.
 
No, this myth really needs to end. Even the Wii and DS without account systems didn't let this happen. Nintendo knows everything you purchased and were a system to fail you would be able t download all your software again.
Does this work if you sell off a system? :p

I sold my 3DS awhile back, wouldn't mind getting that $100 worth of eshop purchases back when i pick up a 3DSXL.
 
So is it true that the account system's implementation means that if your console fails you lose all of your purchased items?
If you buy another system and attempt to do the recovery yourself, it won't work because there are no such recovery processes in place that's available to you. You will have to go through Nintendo's customer support if your console gets bricked or stolen. That also means that if you sell the system and want to recover your account at a later date on a new one, you can't do it. We all have to wait to see what we can do once Nintendo releases whatever account portal they have said they're working on.
 
If you buy another system and attempt to do the recovery yourself, it won't work because there are no such recovery processes in place that's available to you. You will have to go through Nintendo's customer support if your console gets bricked or stolen. That also means that if you sell the system and want to recover your account at a later date on a new one, you can't do it. We all have to wait to see what we can do once Nintendo releases whatever account portal they have said they're working on.
That is so fucking stupid.

It's 2012 and you still don't have some system in place for this? Even itunes got with the program. I love Nintendo but they seriously have to do something about this, especially now that they are selling $65 games.
 
That is so fucking stupid.

It's 2012 and you still don't have some system in place for this? Even itunes got with the program. I love Nintendo but they seriously have to do something about this, especially now that they are selling $65 games.

I agree with you 100% here. It's why I'm not buying any full priced digital games right now. Fuck that.
 
If you buy another system and attempt to do the recovery yourself, it won't work because there are no such recovery processes in place that's available to you. You will have to go through Nintendo's customer support if your console gets bricked or stolen. That also means that if you sell the system and want to recover your account at a later date on a new one, you can't do it. We all have to wait to see what we can do once Nintendo releases whatever account portal they have said they're working on.

This is so insane.
 
That is so fucking stupid.

It's 2012 and you still don't have some system in place for this? Even itunes got with the program. I love Nintendo but they seriously have to do something about this, especially now that they are selling $65 games.
With iCloud every purchase you make digitally is now locked to your account and can be downloaded as many times as you want, that's pretty much the standard now
 
With iCloud every purchase you make digitally is now locked to your account and can be downloaded as many times as you want, that's pretty much the standard now
Yeah, but having said that, for iTunes, the being able to associate a device with only one Apple ID (and being locked to it for 90 days at a time) is awful. So many cloud services do this wrong.
 
Anyone sign up for the hulu plus trial? the eShop icon says one month trial but the 'WiiTV' registration page it sends you to says one week.

Is there some trick to getting a month?
 
Guys, they will most likely fix it in the end. And if they don't, well that'll suck, but after playing PC I'm more and more going for DD so outside of my launch titles I am going to try and get almost all DD titles for Wii U
 
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