Pretty damn well, actually
Keep it up, then.
Wii U Speculation Thread 2: Can't take anymore of this!!!
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Keep it up, then.
FreeMufasa
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Does anyone remember when Red Steel was first revealed for the Wii? I remember it being a few months before E3 in Game Informer. 3rd parties must be itching to atleast show something. I think we'll see something from them before E3. Probably Ubisoft with killer Freaks.
That early Red Steel reveal added so much to the hype, even when it was shown to look garbage and I think a reason for why it sold so well.
YES! we're doing this again.
But it always works best with the early super saiyan stages. Ascended Vegeta, Ultra Trunks and Super Piccolo must be in there somehow.
That early Red Steel reveal added so much to the hype, even when it was shown to look garbage and I think a reason for why it sold so well.
YES! we're doing this again.
But it always works best with the early super saiyan stages. Ascended Vegeta, Ultra Trunks and Super Piccolo must be in there somehow.
Oh please no. Not this, ANYTHING but this. I'd rather die of sepsis caused by an overly vigorous medical examination of my urethra.
I'm confident he will drop one bomb at GDC, in just about a month and a half. We need to wait confirmation he will come, everytime he came to host a keynote we had a bomb dropping - and even the bomb dropping meme was in fact due to the Phantom Hourglass reveal by Iwata at GDC 2007.
I'm thinking of some WiiU intel, but as far as bombs are concerned, I think it may more likely be Zelda 3DS.
I wonder if going Super Sayan actually makes you 429 times more powerful.
If I remember correctly, Sangoku's raw power was around 200'000 pts during Ginyu's battle. He outclassed Freezer when he transformed in SS while Freezer admitted earlier in the series that his power is more or less measured around 530'000 pts. If we admit that Goku only slightly edged out Freezer after his transformation, we can conclude that the jump Sayan ---> Super Sayan is more like a 720p to 1080p jump in performance (x 2.25) rather than GC ---> WiiU which is more like x 50.
If I remember correctly, Sangoku's raw power was around 200'000 pts during Ginyu's battle. He outclassed Freezer when he transformed in SS while Freezer admitted earlier in the series that his power is more or less measured around 530'000 pts. If we admit that Goku only slightly edged out Freezer after his transformation, we can conclude that the jump Sayan ---> Super Sayan is more like a 720p to 1080p jump in performance (x 2.25) rather than GC ---> WiiU which is more like x 50.
fabricated backlash
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I'd imagine that NIntendo is letting Microsoft and Sony do the advertisement for some big 3rd party games that are sure to be ported, and then at E3 they're basically going to show how all those games that people want to buy look and play on the WiiU along with some exclusive stuff and that should do the trick.
They will have to drive the notion that when you buy the WiiU version you're getting the best console version available period. They can do this by either showing the benefits of the WiiU Pad, which would be the cheap way to promote them, or by having plattform specific exclusive content.
ShockingAlberto
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Cougartown?
Dreamwriter
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They did exactly the same thing with the Wii - the first time we saw real Wii games was at E3 2006, the year of the Wii's release. And they didn't only show launch titles, that E3 was where people first got to play early versions of games like Mario Galaxy and Sonic the Hedgehog.
That was the one time I was ever able to attend one of their press conferences in person, and it was one of their best conferences ever.
Cake Boss.
JosephManderley
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Don't we sometimes get press releases a day or so before investor meetings? (clutching at straws in desperation now!) Neeeed some info!
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Claiming ps3 has the graphics leadership this gen is, erm, dubious, to say the least. A fan of sony?
I know I'm lttp for this discussion, but just a pro tip for any future discussion that you may participate in.
Never ever claim the discussion is over. It is an instant game over for you. 1. It shows you've run out of chips and can't hedge your bets, 2. you'e opened the floodgates for anyone to counter your points and you can't refute them because you've already retreated.
Saying that, your list is flawed in that it doesn't consider where Nintendo's systems are positioned in relationship to all systems of a specific gen. All you show in the the Nintendo 64 is the only time they've been on top. I mean you could flip the table and show only the weakest systems of each gen and you'll find Nintendo hardly ever appears on that list.
Albino_Samurai
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AceBandage
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Which means absolutely nothing at all...
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
So the fact you own all tree consoles makes the ROP-castrated, trisetup-starved nv47 derivative the best gpu of the generation? Interesting.
Optical_Matrix
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dat dere placeholder.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
True. And yet it's not that devs had much of a choice there, if they wanted to stay competitive, anyway.
In my book, if your cpu has to help your gpu with typically gpu tasks (poly culling and occlusion, etc) so things can look as good as on the competition's gpu, then you have a problem with your gpu.
Megadrive = Genesis =/= Master System (II).
Oops, misread that one. Saw "Sega M..." and jumped to conclusions. My bad.
comedy bomb
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I feel like if the xbox 720 rumors are true, Microsoft is in a decent position to steal Wii U's E3 thunder. Anything Nintendo shows can be countered with one "behind closed doors" tech demo. Microsoft pays one journalist to say it blows away everything shown for Wii U , and the internet does the rest.
Are you saying the Twitter Choir will come back at the MS E3 conference?
Maybe for tech-oriented gamers. But with one or two Nintendo IPs shown for the first time ever in HD, and a system release something like 6 months after E3, hype will be quickly enought back on Nintendo's side. Don't underestimate the Pikmins!
Hundreds of Pikmin in full HD glory with dynamic lighting and all that? Who could resist?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
Not balanced at all. But that's not the point, the point is, you had to rely on cell's SPUs as a band-aid to the gpu, so it could keep up with the competition's gpu. Of course, the latter had its bottlenecks too - it's insufficient edram being the primary one. But rsx did not excel at msaa either, so it's not that it handily beat xenos there. At the end of the day, the developer's effort to achieve the same look on both platforms was greater on the ps3. That's not what I'd call the 'graphics power leader'.
base shagohod
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And Smash Bros. I feel like that's a no-brainer for Nintendo to show off as one of the first Wii U games. People would go fuckin' nuts.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Sakurai is implying that Smash Bros. WiiU is really far away and they might not have even started development of it. I hope they show some new IP at the re unveiling.
And after that, three years of speculation and Japan Time.
It definitely hasn't started. That means HAL Lab is cooking on something else. Wonder what it is.
base shagohod
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Hopefully.. Madness is what I want.
Do we know what day Nintendo is holding their conference at E3? Can't check the E3 site from here. Pretty sure I have to work that day but thinking about taking a half day I have lying around just so I'm home in time to watch. One of those rare times I also miss G4 for TV converge. I'd at least then DVR it. Unless Spike TV plans on having E3 converge this year? Though if I can get a live YouTube stream I'd be good.
FreeMufasa
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It'll definately be there in some form, it's too important not too. Especially when they gave it a specific mention last year.
Sakurai has said that it was mentioned specifically to get the people at Nintendo studios together - Brawl was developed partially by Game Arts, Project Sora, HAL Labs, and even Paon and Monolith Soft. Project Sora probably doesn't have enough people to develop the game, as Brawl had 100 people working on it full time.
If anything everything we've heard about Smash Bros. so far is to not get our hopes up too quickly.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I STILL BELIEVE.
No official statement for all 3 conferences yet, but the expo is June 5-7. I assume the conferences will be Mon June 4 and Tue June 5.
No way we'll see anything Smash related.
If they're making a 3DS and Wii U version both with Sakurai at the helm it's going to be a while before the Wii U version comes out. Assuming they've started development already, we won't have the Wii U version until holiday 2014 at the earliest and I think the second half of 2015 is more likely. If Nintendo show anything it'll be a teaser and fans will be disappointed for the next few E3's when it isn't announced for that particular year.
Because it's a really big core franchise for Nintendo and people need to know good games are coming. Also remember that 3DS sales weren't exactly on fire at the time so confirming a 3DS version was probably the main catalyst behind mentioning it at all.
That's different to showing off a trailer for a game that has no chance of coming out within a year though.
IceDoesntHelp
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It was to get developers, as was stated not even a page ago...
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Ah I can see that, the 3DS sales factor. It was very surprising though that Nintendo did it, while they are determined to only show/announce games that are near completion. Then again, we've never seen a single image/footage of Pikmin 3 until until this year's E3.
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Alright, but they could have passed the note to other 1st party studios without having the world learn about it.
Father_Brain
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There's a decent amount of evidence that Nintendo had originally planned a more substantive showing of actual Wii U games that was pulled towards the last minute (Vigil developing a demo build of Darksiders II, Iwata's hints at a Western-developed dudebro-ish game being revealed), so it's also likely that the SSB announcement was made as an attempt to partially fill that gap.
IceDoesntHelp
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eh? first I've heard of this..
Give this man a raise, because that's the best hope Nintendo has of stealing thunder back from Microsoft should they unveil a new console this E3 as well. Pikmin 3 is only going to serve to get me and every other Nintendo fan wet. If Nintendo wants new blood they need new IP. It's that simple.
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