Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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Cmd. Pishad'aç
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I vote for this games as launch line-up killer apps now (first 6 months)
- GTA5
- Battlefield 3: Tablet FTW
- Wii Sports U
- Mario Kart 8
- GTA5
- Battlefield 3: Tablet FTW
- Wii Sports U
- Mario Kart 8
Mr.Squirrel
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Wow this has to be the worst batch of juniors ever. Some of the stupidest comments I've read in a long fucking time. Now I remember why I don't read this thread much.
Always-honest
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Best to correct them/ enlighten them instead of calling them stupid.bdizzle said:
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bdizzle said:
Why bother posting your e-rant then ? Got nothing else better to do with your precious time, senior ?
Laughable. Very laughable. I almost applaud myself.
abstract alien
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Thick headed doesn't even begin to describe them. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a launch that literally had only one game worth looking at, and following everyone's disappointment, they released a statement about how its difficult to figure out what they did wrong. For the love of God, they still don't seem to have a fucking clue about online, and this is after their intense research. The 3ds online setup came from that :^lAlways-honest said:
I think you're pretty much on the money. Remember prior to the 3ds launch Iwata said they were working to make sure the 3ds saw consistent software releases to avoid the kind of software lulls the wii had, look how that turned out. The online is barely worth mentioned mostly because it doesn't exist. However one area where I give them high marks is with the eshop. It basically works as advertised. I quite enjoy the set up, I like the rating, the videos, and screenshots and descriptions. The rack system works for the most part, and they even made adding money easier than the dsi shop's process. There are still some quibbles with it, but I consider it a success so far.abstract alien said:
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That is a no go for me.TheExplodingHead said:
Kinect and MOVE would never have seen the light of day without the Wii's meteoric rise. The DS has also done a wonderful job of reaching new audiences. Nintendo can be arrogant as hell, but they are just the thing that this console industry needs to keep it from getting stale with giant blockbusters and carbon copies of successful games.
Freezie KO
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artwalknoon said:
I love the eShop. I think I'll stare at the menu while I wait for them to release a portable VC game, since they haven't done so in two straight weeks.
If you love the eshop you're in luck, apparently Iwata has said they'll be making further improvements to the eshop interface before the year's end. But its all rough translations and rumors at the moment. Still a movable menu like the 3ds main menu would be nice as well as a pay per item feature and mpo screenshots instead of the fairly crappy ones now and higher quality 3d videos which they seem to be doing with the latest releases.Freezie KO said:
FieryBalrog
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BurntPork said:
It's way too early to be definite about this, but reports don't suggest much more power than the 360/PS3, which are tech from 2005-2006.
Certainly nothing suggests they're using tech comparable to 2011 PC hardware, or within the past 2 years for that matter.
Freezie KO
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artwalknoon said:
My big problems with the eShop are as follows:
1. Why we must we buy credit for incremental amounts? Doesn't this defeat the purpose of a cash-based system? If I have to buy $20 in credit, then it might as well be spacebucks. What's the difference in paying $10 for 1000 Wii Points or $10 for "10 dollars of eShop credit?"
2. They don't actually like releasing games. How have we gone two weeks without a portable VC release? I know GB and GBC didn't have the largest library of classics, but during a software drought (that spurred an $80 price drop), you'd think they could satisfy us with some old games.
Can anyone bring up that list of Nintendo in-house dev teams and what theyre currently working on?
At this point, if Wii U releases mid-2012 for example, what kind of games can we even expect? I mean. Theres a reason launches are always so barren. I hope Nintendo's got an amazing launch title cooking...
All they need to launch strong is a strategic price and a strategic game.
My prediction is $299.99 bundled with New Super Mario Bros. Mii
At this point, if Wii U releases mid-2012 for example, what kind of games can we even expect? I mean. Theres a reason launches are always so barren. I hope Nintendo's got an amazing launch title cooking...
All they need to launch strong is a strategic price and a strategic game.
My prediction is $299.99 bundled with New Super Mario Bros. Mii
Freezie KO
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artwalknoon said:
I hope that's what he meant by "pay per item." It was speculated as DLC in the other thread, which I differentiate from full downloadable games. But if you're correct, that'd be fantastic.
As for the VC, it's been this way for Wii for 5 years. Not expecting a change. It's such an obvious way to stop the software droughts though.
How much power does it take to render to the WiiU pad though? If its a case of replicating what's on screen or a menu then obviosly not much but if you are rendering a different angle in game like some sports titles might do then I could see the power requirements rising significantly. It would also depend on whether a game was 1080p or not.
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AceBandage said:
Underlined the important stuff.
McHuj
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Kyzer said:
For me personally to get a WiiU, I would need a killer launch game. From Nintendo that would be some along the lines of Super Mario Galaxy 3 or some other mind blowing Mario game (that you know that they're cooking up now).
However to recapture the casual market and simply move hardware all they need is some sort of pack-in game like WiiSports.
Part of the reason I'm pessimistic about the WiiU is that I don't think we'll get a killer Nintendo game at launch for the core and whatever the gimmick for the causals will be, it won't be good enough to reignite the fire like the Wii. We'll see.
TheExplodingHead
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For a launch title, the only killer app I need is Pikmin 3. The rest is just icing on the cake. But I'll take NSMbWiiU, and a couple great third-party games too.
Always-honest
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yeah, honestly, i'd buy it for that.. i'm a big sucker for Pikmin and so is my GF. So i even might score a romantic gaming evening out of it (followed by merciless animal like steaming sexy time)TheExplodingHead said:
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DSN2K said:
Yep, if there is one thing the 3DS has proven it's that nintendo can't rely on 3rd parties. They need to lead the way get the HW selling and then let 3rd parties have some room (like on the DS).
I wonder if Nintendo can ever really win the 3rd party situation, it just seems like 3rd parties are there solely to troll them. Hit hard with first party: 3rd parties complain about domination and release shit; give them space and people complain about the lack of first party games, third parties continue to release shit. It's also funny Nintendo grabs all these quotes from major game designers about how they really like the console and have an awesome game planned only to have upper management farm it out to C teams and have them crank away of whatever safe franchise game.
StreetsAhead
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Am hoping the Nintendo 1st /2nd party launch window ends up looking something like this:
Wii U Fit
Wii U Sports
Miyamoto's new character based franchise
F-Zero
Retro Studios Game
Pikmin 3
Wii Play U (feat. Chase Mii, Battle Mii, Shield Pose)
New Super Mario Bros. Mii
Pokemon 5th Generation Battle Simulator
That's not too unreasonable I don't think.
Wii U Fit
Wii U Sports
Miyamoto's new character based franchise
F-Zero
Retro Studios Game
Pikmin 3
Wii Play U (feat. Chase Mii, Battle Mii, Shield Pose)
New Super Mario Bros. Mii
Pokemon 5th Generation Battle Simulator
That's not too unreasonable I don't think.
PdotMichael
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StreetsAhead said:
Wii U Fit, Sport and stuff...
I don't think Nintendo will be very successful if they only repeat the Wii Lineup.
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PdotMichael said:
Well the poster's theoretical line-up fantasized about other games as well. But the formula to success would be "Wii hits" and "the other games you didn't get".
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artwalknoon said:
Well, here's something new:
http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a332372/bbc-interested-in-kinect-wii-u-development.html
specialguy
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Nintendo will burn through cash pretty quick though with all this selling at a loss stuff. Doubt they can sustain it.
That's why they switched to the non-powerful hardware model. Cant keep up with the Joneses of Sony and MS that can subsidize money losing hardware at the beginning of the cycle.
The more I think of Wii U the more I realize what a danger it is in. I mean, it's expensive, but only because it has a expensive controller, rather than those $ going into something people care about aka the graphics.
So not only is the Wii U weak, it's also expensive to boot. Talk about a double whammy. If it's weak, it should at least have the advantage of being cheap. But it doesn't. It's going to be stuck up there at $350, probably permanently as LCD screens and 2nd controllers as mini-systems arent going to drop like silicon does, while the 10X more powerful PS4 and Xb720 are $400. It may literally have a harder time dropping to 249 someday than the Xb720 does.
That controller cost to the Wiiu is quite literally going to be like an anchor on a man trying to swim. And unlike Kinect, they cant break the cost out and make people pay $150 separately for the nonsense if they so desire.
Be honest wouldn't all you Nintendo-ites be happier if Nintendo tossed those $150 on the controller onto a (next gen) competitive CPU and GPU and RAM instead?
That's why they switched to the non-powerful hardware model. Cant keep up with the Joneses of Sony and MS that can subsidize money losing hardware at the beginning of the cycle.
The more I think of Wii U the more I realize what a danger it is in. I mean, it's expensive, but only because it has a expensive controller, rather than those $ going into something people care about aka the graphics.
So not only is the Wii U weak, it's also expensive to boot. Talk about a double whammy. If it's weak, it should at least have the advantage of being cheap. But it doesn't. It's going to be stuck up there at $350, probably permanently as LCD screens and 2nd controllers as mini-systems arent going to drop like silicon does, while the 10X more powerful PS4 and Xb720 are $400. It may literally have a harder time dropping to 249 someday than the Xb720 does.
That controller cost to the Wiiu is quite literally going to be like an anchor on a man trying to swim. And unlike Kinect, they cant break the cost out and make people pay $150 separately for the nonsense if they so desire.
Be honest wouldn't all you Nintendo-ites be happier if Nintendo tossed those $150 on the controller onto a (next gen) competitive CPU and GPU and RAM instead?
They can survive three straight PS3's without burning through their cash reserves actually, but there is no chance they're taking an even remotely comparable loss on the 3DS as Sony did on the PS3.specialguy said:
They switched to the Wii model this generation because they suspected it would be more profitable. (And it was.) They've also profited on competitive hardware in previous generations, just not as much.specialguy said:
Yeah, this generation sure proved that people care much more about graphics than some fancy controller.specialguy said:
What are the specs, and how much is it gonna cost? I'm pretty sure you can't answer either question.specialguy said:
BurntPork said:
Maybe, but it's looking more and more like the Wii U will be a competitor to the 360 and PS3, not the next Xbox or PS4. Even if the tech inside the Wii U is newer than current-gen, it's not quite next-gen (going by the rumors of what MS and Sony are expected to bring in the next year or two), which is what I was trying to say yesterday.
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rhoq said:
What makes you say that? Have there been any statement about that?
Zoramon089
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Because no other consoles have been revealed yet...Early 360 threads compared it's games to Xbox gamesBurntPork said:
lwilliams3 said:
Isn't that part of the problem? There hasn't been anything other than what we've all read/heard so far (only slightly more powerful than the PS3). Things could change (and I hope they do). For now, it looks to me like they just seem content with catching up rather than looking ahead.
Nothing big but, listening to the DPL podcast they were doing an interview with the Zen Pinball guy...he said the machine is really powerful and are releasing the game via the downloadable service.
If you don't know what Zen Pinball is, its the best pinball game you can buy. Also coming to 3DS.
www.deadpixellive.com/
If you don't know what Zen Pinball is, its the best pinball game you can buy. Also coming to 3DS.
www.deadpixellive.com/
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