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[Instro]

No that's how they appease Capcom to get the most important 3rd party portable game.

While I'm sure Monster Hunter was the catalyst, I wouldn't doubt other devs have complained about this problem as well. Hell, they caught a lot of flack at E3 due to the controls of KI, so I'd like to think this is a response to a series of complaints about the lack of a 2nd analog.

 

[bgassassin]

http://i499.photobucket.com/albums/rr353/mappster91/themonster.gif

This is how they go about fixing problems. I wonder how this will translate to the Wii U.

They're going to put an attachment on their online network?

 

[Instro]

Still has friend codes, still requires both people to input friend codes, and took away the messaging system. Plus, the eShop money system is worse than any other in existence.

Didn't realize this was still the case with the 3DS, what a shame.

 

[Medalion]

Worse yet, the friend list is useless on the 3DS that I know of still, you can see what people are playing, a short quote, and that's it

 

[Anth0ny]

They're going to put an attachment on their online network?

Maybe not.

But they'll release a Wii U Lite 10 months after Wii U is released with better online, 4 player local multiplayer and a controller without the screen.

 

[guek]

Maybe not.

But they'll release a Wii U Lite 10 months after Wii U is released with better online, 4 player local multiplayer and a controller without the screen.

 

[ryūkotsusei]

What? You'd imagine a future with Smash Bros. without a GCN controller hybrid? Blasphemy!

 

[bgassassin]

Maybe not.

But they'll release a Wii U Lite 10 months after Wii U is released with better online, 4 player local multiplayer and a controller without the screen.

I lol'd.

I think they realize they have to get things right on the first go as best as possible. They don't have the same leeway with their home console to make the same level of errors that they did with the 3Ds.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Worse yet, the friend list is useless on the 3DS that I know of still, you can see what people are playing, a short quote, and that's it

It is not useless...it reminds you of who your friends are ;_;

 

[BurntPork]

It is not useless...it reminds you of who your friends are ;_;

Unless you don't have any. This thing won't even help you make friends.

 

[WillyFive]

What? You'd imagine a future with Smash Bros. without a GCN controller hybrid? Blasphemy!

Believe it.

I've been doing it since Brawl came out, and I am now better than I was with the GCN controller.

 

[radioheadrule83]

There's clearly going to be updates to the 3DS online system. They mentioned messaging and stuff in interviews ages ago, and that's not implemented yet... Tuesday may yield something on this point actually.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Unless you don't have any. This thing won't even help you make friends.

....anyone want to be my friend? ;_;

 

[Zoramon089]

Are people really that scared of trying anything new? It's a traditional controller with motion sensing and a touch screen! Why are there people who want the screen removed like it somehow radically makes the controller so much worse?!

 

[bgassassin]

Are people really that scared of trying anything new? It's a traditional controller with motion sensing and a touch screen! Why are there people who want the screen removed like it somehow radically makes the controller so much worse?!

LOL. He wasn't being serious ...I hope.

 

[Anth0ny]

Are people really that scared of trying anything new? It's a traditional controller with motion sensing and a touch screen! Why are there people who want the screen removed like it somehow radically makes the controller so much worse?!

The streaming is causing big problems if 01net is to be believed.

and of course we can't use more than one per console. I don't give two fucks about motion sensing, a touch screen or streaming if it means we can't use 2-4 controllers.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

The streaming is causing big problems if 01net is to be believed.

and of course we can't use more than one per console. I don't give two fucks about motion sensing, a touch screen or streaming if it means we can't use 2-4 controllers.

But if we are to believe others, that's not an issue anymore, as (I believe) that's from the older dev kits.
Also they're working on making 2 work. Why are you so angry?

 

[wsippel]

The streaming is causing big problems if 01net is to be believed.

and of course we can't use more than one per console. I don't give two fucks about motion sensing, a touch screen or streaming if it means we can't use 2-4 controllers.

Those issues were fixed a long time ago, and you can use more than one controller. Only one of them will have a touchscreen - and, in fact, several local multiplayer games are designed around that very concept.

 

[Anth0ny]

But if we are to believe others, that's not an issue anymore, as (I believe) that's from the older dev kits.

Hopefully.

I want this shit in June. September would be horrible.

Then again, it's not like there's going to be any good launch titles =/

Those issues were fixed a long time ago, and you can use more than one controller. Only one of them will have a touchscreen - and, in fact, several local multiplayer games are designed around that very concept.

Of course I meant 4 tablet controllers.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Hopefully.

I want this shit in June. September would be horrible.

Then again, it's not like there's going to be any good launch titles =/

Except Batman, Darksiders II, Metro Last Light and (hopefully) Pikmin 3.
Honestly release Pikmin 3 as a launch title, and it will be the best launch ever. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY!

 

[bgassassin]

and of course we can't use more than one per console. I don't give two fucks about motion sensing, a touch screen or streaming if it means we can't use 2-4 controllers.

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/report-wii-u-can-stream-multiple-controllers

According to sources close to Japanese gaming website Game Watch - translated by Nintendo World Report - the Wii GPU, supplied by AMD, has two output modes, one of which supports the streaming of up to four "SD images".

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

I have a feeling the Wii U will come around fall 2012, and a more competent Wii U blowout will be given at next year's E3. This year felt more like a proof of concept, and I believe next year we'll see a much more finalized, competent vision.

Maybe I'm just an optimist...

 

[Zoramon089]

I have a feeling the Wii U will come around fall 2012, and a more competent Wii U blowout will be given at next year's E3. This year felt more like a proof of concept, and I believe next year we'll see a much more finalized, competent vision.

Maybe I'm just an optimist...

Of course we'll get a real Wii U blowout. Are there actually people who think we won't get a true unveiling between now and launch? Really? Really?! We don't know the price, the HW, what it comes with, the software, any of the features aside from the basic idea. It shouldn't even be questioned whether we'll get a true reveal

 

[BurntPork]

I have a feeling the Wii U will come around fall 2012, and a more competent Wii U blowout will be given at next year's E3. This year felt more like a proof of concept, and I believe next year we'll see a much more finalized, competent vision.

Maybe I'm just an optimist...

You call expecting them to wait until fall optimistic?

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Of course we'll get a real Wii U blowout. Are there actually people who think we won't get a true unveiling between now and launch? Really? Really?! We don't know the price, the HW, what it comes with, the software, any of the features aside from the basic idea. It shouldn't even be questioned whether we'll get a true reveal

Wooooah woah, slow down. I'm on your side. People who are underwhelmed by what we know now should take comfort in the points you've made, not take them as reason to panic. For all we know, there may be some changes in the overall design of the console and controller next time we see it. I just feel like any dooming and glooming is waaaay too early in the game. I don't think we're even within a year of this console being released. In comparison, we were unaware that the 3DS even existed this far from it's launch.

You call expecting them to wait until fall optimistic?

When do you expect the console to be launched?

 

[ShockingAlberto]

You call expecting them to wait until fall optimistic?

October 2012 would be around 19 months after the Japanese release of the 3DS.

DSLite was released March 2006, less than 16 months after the Japanese release of the DS.

But yeah, you're right, Fall is way too early because _______.

 

[BurntPork]

When do you expect the console to be launched?

Summer, which has been hinted at from the start. Based on 01net's rumors, June is the target with September being possible.

October 2012 would be around 19 months after the Japanese release of the 3DS.

DSLite was released March 2006, less than 16 months after the Japanese release of the DS.

But yeah, you're right, Fall is way too early because _______.

You need to look at what thread this is...

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Summer, which has been hinted at from the start. Based on 01net's rumors, June is the target with September being possible.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30838652&postcount=1367

Look in the Wii U thread. We've established that 01net may have been reporting outdated info, so the $10 part of it is completely out of the window. We can now only guess based on what's in the cradle, and based on that $25-30 is a more likely price range.

Isn't it kind of funny how your opinions on the accuracy of 01net's assertions seems to vary based on how much of a Chicken Little you can be?

Wait, not funny. What's the word?

Oh right. Dumb.

You need to look at what thread this is...

My mistake, I misread that part.

 

[OrangeGrayBlue]

Summer, which has been hinted at from the start. Based on 01net's rumors, June is the target with September being possible.


You need to look at what thread this is...

I really don't expect them to blow their proverbial load just before E3. Time will tell, though.

 

[soulassssns]

Maybe not.

But they'll release a Wii U Lite 10 months after Wii U is released with better online, 4 player local multiplayer and a controller without the screen.

Do you do stand up as well? because you are hilarious!!!

 

[Jorok Goldblade]

I could see them delaying launch to makes sure they have a strong software lineup. They've acknowledged that that was a problem with 3DS at launch.

 

[dallow_bg]

There's clearly going to be updates to the 3DS online system. They mentioned messaging and stuff in interviews ages ago, and that's not implemented yet... Tuesday may yield something on this point actually.

The only thing they've said about the messaging is 'that it sounded like an interesting idea to do'. (which is lolz)
I bet it never happens.

 

[Zoramon089]

The only thing they've said about the messaging is 'that it sounded like an interesting idea to do'. (which is lolz)
I bet it never happens.

I'm pretty sure it'll happen...

 

[BurntPork]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30838652&postcount=1367



Isn't it kind of funny how your opinions on the accuracy of 01net's assertions seems to vary based on how much of a Chicken Little you can be?

Wait, not funny. What's the word?

Oh right. Dumb.


My mistake, I misread that part.

I knew that would be brought up. For the record, I wasn't ruling out that it costs $10; I was simply saying that the source was outdated and therefore possibly unreliable. The same is true here. However, in this case for the source to be wrong the info would have had to come from before the 3DS started tanking. However, it's more likely that it came from after E3, probably in July. (IMO, of course.) The point here is that June 2012 was the launch target at some point and may very well still be. There's not much reason to believe that that part changed, at least not yet, and frankly Nintendo needs to get Wii U out ASAP. Another year of no console games from Nintendo would have a negative impact.

 

[Anth0ny]

I knew that would be brought up. For the record, I wasn't ruling out that it costs $10; I was simply saying that the source was outdated and therefore possibly unreliable. The same is true here. However, in this case for the source to be wrong the info would have had to come from before the 3DS started tanking. However, it's more likely that it came from after E3, probably in July. (IMO, of course.) The point here is that June 2012 was the launch target at some point and may very well still be. There's not much reason to believe that that part changed, at least not yet, and frankly Nintendo needs to get Wii U out ASAP. Another year of no console games from Nintendo would have a negative impact.

That's what I'm saying. There's no Wii games after Zelda is released. 7 months (from November to June) is already horrible, anything more then that is just unbelievable.

Spoiler

Unless, of course, they release Xenoblade, Last Story and Pandora's Tower =P

 

[JJConrad]

I really don't expect them to blow their proverbial load just before E3. Time will tell, though.

I'm of the convection that if the system isn't out by E3, it won't be released until the fall. It takes about a month afterwards for the full media impact of E3 to be felt and by then they're into a really crappy time of the year to launch anything. So they either do their own blowout, launch, and use E3 for Round 2 hype, or make E3 a mega-blowout and then launch nearer the holidays. After their 3DS troubles, I'm leaning towards the later launch.

 

[Fess]

Worse yet, the friend list is useless on the 3DS that I know of still, you can see what people are playing, a short quote, and that's it

Download Play is awesome though if you have gaming friends in real life too, since only one of you need a copy of the game, I tried multiplayer in Starfox 64 3D yesterday and was superimpressed by how it worked and how easy it was to get going.
It would be neat if you could play Wii U games that can be played without the TV the same way, a good reason to go visit a friend instead of just sit at home with a headset. Not sure if that's technically possible though.

 

[watershed]

I think the wii u will launch in the fall of 2012. First I think Nintendo will use E3 for the full blowout, rather than having their own event. E3 commands the most media and consumer attention even if the spotlight is shared with the rest of the industry. Its the best place to hype anything game related. Second a launch any time prior to fall runs the risk of the wii u hitting a lull or getting caught in the traditional gaming lull months. Launching in fall nearly ensures the launch momentum will sustain the wii u into the holiday season as long as the launch line up is decent.

 

[AlexMeloche]

That's what I'm saying. There's no Wii games after Zelda is released. 7 months (from November to June) is already horrible, anything more then that is just unbelievable.

Do we have a release date for Rhythm Heaven?

 

[JJConrad]

I think the wii u will launch in the fall of 2012. First I think Nintendo will use E3 for the full blowout, rather than having their own event. E3 commands the most media and consumer attention even if the spotlight is shared with the rest of the industry. Its the best place to hype anything game related. Second a launch any time prior to fall runs the risk of the wii u hitting a lull or getting caught in the traditional gaming lull months. Launching in fall nearly ensures the launch momentum will sustain the wii u into the holiday season as long as the launch line up is decent.

I would say that our best indicator (besides Nintendo announcing a release date before then) is to watch for when production begins on the system. The Wii and 3DS began production about 4-6 months prior to launch. If production begins in October, like the rumors claim, expect an earlier launch. They're not going to stockpile for a whole year.

Do we have a release date for Rhythm Heaven?

No. We also don't have one for Mario Party 9.

 

[firelink]

Wii U will be released in July.

I'm calling it! (Probably wrong, btw)

 

[herzogzwei1989]

Wii U: Graphics importance and change of heart
By: Jamie Pert | September 10, 2011

One thing which Nintendo has promised from its next-gen console, the Nintendo Wii U, is that the graphics will be far superior to the original Wii and in fact output at 1080p thanks to an AMD Radeon GPU – however over the years Nintendo has concentrated more on gameplay rather than graphics, today we will look into whether Nintendo has had a change of heart.

Lately we have seen motion controllers grow in popularity and it would be fair to say that both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 have started to attract Nintendo Wii consumers who have got bored of the ageing console – obviously people love Nintendo’s exclusive titles, however most people have large HDTVs which really show the poor resolution which Wii games output at – is this why Nintendo has decided to up their game?



Obviously Nintendo’s next-gen console was always going to be better in terms of visuals than the original Wii, however the Nintendo Wii U graphics demo shown at E3 2011 really showed that this console’s graphical prowess is on par, if not more impressive than the Xbox 360 and PS3 (you can see this video at the end of this post) – this is the first-time in years Nintendo has released a console which will boast visuals up-there with the most impressive consoles on the market – but could this be its undoing?

If you check out the video below you will see that it will be a close race between the Wii U, PS3 and Xbox 360 in terms of graphics – however we have to remember that this is Nintendo’s next-gen offering and the PS3 and Xbox 360 have been available for almost 5 years – what we are trying to say is that the next-gen Sony and Microsoft consoles should wipe the floor with the Wii U in terms of graphics, but we could be waiting a few years before the PS4 and Xbox 720 arrive.

We think that there are lots of factors which will determine the success of the Nintendo Wii U, we think that by giving it great graphics the console will appeal to some hardcore gamers, however Nintendo has to remember that gameplay is what has given its consoles and games success in the past – surely this should be what the console’s manufacturers and developers have to concentrate on the most.

We love hearing feedback from our readers regarding Nintendo Wii U graphics, will less impressive visuals than the PS3 / Xbox 360 put you off? Or are you paying more attention to titles and gameplay? Let us know below.

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/09/10/wii-u-graphics-importance-and-change-of-heart/

 

[guek]

that...is a really poorly written article. I mean, yeah it presents zero new information and is a really late story about nintendo's E3 showing but all that aside, it's just...really poorly written.

 

[Danthrax]

That's what I'm saying. There's no Wii games after Zelda is released. 7 months (from November to June) is already horrible, anything more then that is just unbelievable.

Spoiler

Unless, of course, they release Xenoblade, Last Story and Pandora's Tower =P

Fortune Street is supposed to come out in December, then 2012 will bring Mario Party 9 and Rhythm Heaven. So yes, Nintendo is bringing games to the Wii after Zelda.

 

[AzaK]

Wii U will be released in July.

I'm calling it! (Probably wrong, btw)

I'm with you. In fact if it's not well before (April), E3 will be both a blowout and an announcement it's on store shelves when the attendees walk out the door. End of year 2012 is mental. Wii is dead and there's nothing of value announced aside DQ X, so unless they have something more to pull out of their arses it seems just wrong to be so unprofitable for so long.

Of course if releasing in June/July means another 3DS style launch window, they will wait but I imagine/hope they are much further along than that.

What we need is a leak when manufacturing starts

EDIT

Fortune Street is supposed to come out in December, then 2012 will bring Mario Party 9 and Rhythm Heaven. So yes, Nintendo is bringing games to the Wii after Zelda.

Can that sustain them and there profits though, through to an end of year release? EoY is most of the next financial year, so will they want to have another shit year of profit?

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Fortune Street is supposed to come out in December, then 2012 will bring Mario Party 9 and Rhythm Heaven. So yes, Nintendo is bringing games to the Wii after Zelda.

The issue is the pace.

The beginning of this year would have been perfect for a release of say... anything?

 

[NM0dz]

that...is a really poorly written article. I mean, yeah it presents zero new information and is more or a really late story about nintendo's E3 showing but all that aside, it's just...really poorly written.

.
His control of the English language is horrid, agreed.

Also are we calling when the WiiU will release based off of gut-feeling? : P

October 14th 2012 - JP
US - ummmmm
Eur/Au - November 3rd 2012

got these from wherein the sun shines.

 

[Anth0ny]

Fortune Street is supposed to come out in December, then 2012 will bring Mario Party 9 and Rhythm Heaven. So yes, Nintendo is bringing games to the Wii after Zelda.

So, 3 games. From December to June at the very earliest. Wow.

Xenoblade would really help them out here.

Spoiler

and I couldn't care less about Mario Party 9 or Fortune Street =(

 

[herzogzwei1989]

I hope the rumors of more RAM than 360/PS3 pan out.

 

[Plinko]

I hope the rumors of more RAM than 360/PS3 pan out.

I cannot imagine how they could possibly release this system with less or equal RAM than 360/PS3.