walking fiend
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yeapAndrex said:
unless they are first party, you'd rarely find a high profile 3rd party exclusve
Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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phosphor112
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Daschysta said:
If...
walking fiend said:
Wipeout says no.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
That's the closest resemblance to a game changer we have at this time. If it's not tessellation, it's nothing then - it'd be just more of the same, cube->wii style.Thunder Monkey said:
The 'tessellation unit' in pre-R800 generations is logic that is 90% shared with other use cases. Last time ATI had an entirely dedicated tessellation unit, i.e. one which was fed patches and produced triangles (and one which could be axed without much consequences for the rest of the pipeline) was the fabled Truform in R200. Tessellation in the R600+ generations has been closely coupled with primitive generation & assembly logic, same one which is responsible for geometry shaders et al.Kermit The Frog said:
To take a R700 and 'remove the tessellator' looking for some significant transistor savings would be akin to take an R700 and redesign its pipeline from scratch.
manueldelalas
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Yes, but it is not a FF killer, because...StevieP said:
AAAAAAAAAA OK BITCHES, XENOBLADE KILLED FF FOR ME, ARE YOU HAPPY???
(I would be a hundred times more hyped for a Xenoblade sequel (spiritual or real) than a FFXV)
Fess
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I don't think that's neccesary at all. I think Nintendo's usual IP's will do just fine to get the must-haves in, if we get a superb Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Donkey Kong, etc then you'll have to really hate Nintendo in a weird way to not want the Wii U. And once we get to see all the stuff that the controller can do I know that at least I will rather play multi format games on Wii U than PS3/360. Nintendo will wow us all next E3.Ubermatik said:
Ubermatik said:
Moneyhatting a major exclusive, one to gain any noteworthy game that will be worth a writeup on some crappy IGN article, is financially unfeasible. There are plenty of examples of exclusives on consoles even this gen. But sometimes even semi-noteworthy exclusives on the *Wii* get ported elsewhere within months.
I'm generalizing obviously, but 3rd parties will mostly be shitting out ports of their major games on any platform that can run the executable. Timed exclusives don't count.
Playing a full game over wifi streamed from a console will almost always have lag. That's why separate technologies are/were required for the Wii U to have completely lag-free streaming to its pad. It's not something that can be replicated with the Vita unless Sony has specifically put a dedicated chip in there that will interface with the PS4.
We're talking about noteworthy exclusives (non-timed) on HD platforms. One where development costs are in the 8 figures.
Smiles and Cries
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I am hyped about 3rd Party exclusives. You can point at the companies who wont give exclusives
Take Two - Rockstar
Ubisoft
EA
THQ
but outside of them you will find exclusives, even Capcoms plays around with timed exclusives so WiiU has a good chance to pick up some
Take Two - Rockstar
Ubisoft
EA
THQ
but outside of them you will find exclusives, even Capcoms plays around with timed exclusives so WiiU has a good chance to pick up some
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Obviously someone forgot to tell this to Capcom and S-E that have some pretty major series exclusive on Nintendo systems...StevieP said:
WealthyGadabout
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All I need
is a trailer (even a concept trailer) for Smash Bros. that shows each major franchise character running by in full HD.
Yes...that includes Mr. Game & Watch...THE best Smash character.
The internet would have exploded if that's how they introduced the thing at E3.
to poop my pants with excitement
Yes...that includes Mr. Game & Watch...THE best Smash character.
The internet would have exploded if that's how they introduced the thing at E3.
Neoriceisgood
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WealthyGadabout said:
This and a Dojo.
Smiles and Cries
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I'm not looking forward to Japan Time Dojo
Capcom: Handhelds != Consolesmanueldelalas said:
Square Enix: DQ only really sells in Japan, where the 360 was DOA. Porting games between Wii and PS3 isn't easy and the Wii is very far ahead of the PS3 in terms of sales, so the situation is different. In fact, there's only one reason it's even coming to Wii U, and I don't think I have to tell you what that is.
Graphics Horse
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Smiles and Cries said:
No Ubisoft exclusives? You're either crazy or ignoring the games you don't care about. Expect Just Dance, Combat of Giants, maybe that Ghost Recon f2p game and some petz game or something. Or perhaps Red Steel 2 burned them that badly.
Smiles and Cries
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BurntPork said:
you can tell us.
manueldelalas
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MH Tri is exclusive to Nintendo systems, and all signs point that MH4 will suffer the same fate; even more, the whole series is Nintendo exclusive for the time being.BurntPork said:
About DQ, they ported it to Wii U, why a PS3 version is so difficult to make? (hint: it isn't, it's an exclusive).
Sorry, but both series are exclusive to Nintendo systems for the time, go cry elsewhere (where did you spawn from?? I swear I didn't see you posting here but I think you have sensors everywhere detecting this stuff...)
Smiles and Cries
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Graphics Horse said:
Since the Rabbids made a trip outside of Nintendo hardware Ubi is the traitors even though they have a WiiU exclusive in the works
walking fiend
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he changed his avatarmanueldelalas said:
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btw, I jsut remembered that Wii U is already getting a multi-million seller exclusive, that lego game.
Smiles and Cries
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Graphics Horse
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BurntPork said:
An exclusive also existing on PC rarely matters in console warz discussions! Ubisoft are famous for piling on the 'shitware exclusives' from day 1 on the last two Nintendo consoles, so they don't need to wait to see how it sells. They might eventually un-exclusive themselves, but that's life.
manueldelalas
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BurntPork said:
manueldelalas
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LOL, my bad, I didn't recognize him without the avatar =Pwalking fiend said:
Thunder Monkey
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On one thing I definitely agree with EatChildren about. If the tessellation is the difference between fitting into their case and not... they'd just drop those transistors.blu said:
Nintendo am crazy.
Make crazy good games though. It evens out.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Yes, but that spinoff is not getting a VITA release (even though it got a PS3 up-port, and many of the VITA games are ports of a PS3 remake or up-port), which was VERY surprising.Gravijah said:
I never said that they're not important or that it would be impossible. But fine, forget the porting thing. With both of those games, they don't want to split the userbase due to being heavily online based. And, as I said, the situation in Japan isn't the same as the worldwide situation.manueldelalas said:
manueldelalas
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So? My point is this:BurntPork said:
It is not true that big 3rd party franchises can't be system exclusive in this age.
Proof? DQ and MH being Nintendo exclusives (for the time being, nobody has a doubt that should the 3DS MH games underperform, they will port the shit out of those).
Obviously stuff like GTA and COD will not be exclusive while they remain with this level of popularity, even Nintendo doesn't have that kind of moneyhat to give (and honestly, I'm not sure they are even interested in those franchises, they'll want to get them on their systems, but that's it).
Obviously if there is another console that takes 70% of the marketshare like the PS2 or PS1 did, then 3rd party exclusives will become a reality again.
OrangeGrayBlue
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So with people saying that the PS4/720 will leapfrog the Wii U, does this mean that you expect Wii U to be a similar increase from the previous gen as Wii was?
bgassassin
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^^ Not even close. Wii's hardware was severely out of date even when that generation started. Then combine that with the minimal bumps Nintendo made with said hardware and you have something that ended up where it is now. Affordable, huge success, but hit a pretty hard wall (although that wall only brought them down to where MS and Sony are at).
Oh yeah. He's not like luckycharms or whatever his name is that likes to do drive-by trolling. I have no qualms with reasonable cynicism. But with the tessellator, I'd expect my "Cayman Jr" hypothesis to happen before they removed it altogether.
Yeah, somehow Nintendo will be the first one to have a final console be exactly like it's first dev kit.
The real NFL.
Thunder Monkey said:
Oh yeah. He's not like luckycharms or whatever his name is that likes to do drive-by trolling. I have no qualms with reasonable cynicism. But with the tessellator, I'd expect my "Cayman Jr" hypothesis to happen before they removed it altogether.
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snesfreak said:
Yeah, somehow Nintendo will be the first one to have a final console be exactly like it's first dev kit.
Smiles and Cries said:
The real NFL.
TheNatural
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So, almost 7,200 posts since Wii U info came out at E3, and has even the slightest ounce of news come out about it yet?
AceBandage
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TheNatural said:
We know that it will have stuff.
AceBandage
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Gravijah said:
Doomed.
Nintendo is doomed.
Geeze.
AceBandage
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Gravijah said:
Negative copies?
OrangeGrayBlue
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bgassassin said:
I agree. For all the people saying that the amount of time and money willing to be spent adding detail will be more of a visual ceiling than how much detail the power of the systems actually allow, so few people seem to believe it.
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