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[Hero of Legend]

Hmm, a debug screen makes sense.

I wonder about the discs, do we know if it's a Blu-ray-style disc? Wasn't it said to be 25GB at least?

 

[wabo]

They were being played by someone backstage.

They were being played by someone backstage on a 360.


BOOM.

 

[Ryoku]

Hmm, a debug screen makes sense.

I wonder about the discs, do we know if it's a Blu-ray-style disc? Wasn't it said to be 25GB at least?

I believe the single-layer discs are 25GB. Most likely blu-ray-like technology, but Nintendo will make their own proprietary discs to avoid licensing fees. They did the same with the Wii optical discs, which are essentially DVDs.

 

[Shiggy]

I'd be okay with that.

Reggie (on stage): On now the Wii U! POW!

*BOOM!* (Audience explodes)

Iwata: *laughs*
But first let me introduce the revitalised WiiU Vitality Sensor. It is the only product containing the "Vita" in its name that is indeed vital.

Audience: *laughs*

Nintex: Shots fired!

NucleaMuffin: Apocalyptic announcement!

Shiggy: Blame Scott Henson!

Sony execs: WAR!

...

*BOOM!*

Doublefixed.

 

[tsab]

Wii debug units would crash on Home button.The menu wasn't implemented (they were running an autoboot iso demo.

Spoiler

I know it because I did it on purpose to watch them reboot the devkit and take a pick

well at least the units that showcased the demos on november 2006 in my country (I remember they were quite outdated though)

 

[tsab]

I believe the single-layer discs are 25GB. Most likely blu-ray-like technology, but Nintendo will make their own proprietary discs to avoid licensing fees. They did the same with the Wii optical discs, which are essentially DVDs.

and GC discs which are Mini-DVDs

 

[Anth0ny]

here's a thought-

I know that several GAFers including myself have stated in the past that they would absolutely love a Zelda HD collection for the Wii U. While this sounds like an unequivocally awesome idea, do you guys think it would have real selling power as a launch/launch-window title? The same goes for a SMG 1/2 HD collection. These games have sold very well on the Wii, but would they really have the ability to be resold so soon after they've come out for the Wii? Yes, I know myself and likely many other people on this board would kill for a chance to play WW/TP/SS and the galaxies in glorious HD, but would the market at large be just as receptive or would they shrug them off? Would it be worth nintendo's time and money to refit them for the Wii U?

I think, based off the Zelda/Mario name alone, they would sell just fine. Considering how easy (and cheap) it would be to throw them on a disc and sell them at launch to satisfy everyone's appetite, I really hope Nintendo considers it.

If not at launch, eventually. An "HD Classics" line from Nintendo is inevitable.

The Galaxies and Wind Waker in glorious 1080p aren't so far off from 360/PS3 games, art wise.

 

[Skiesofwonder]

NOTE: The following is not a new article addressing the release date, but instead is a blurb taken from an article about WiiU's presence at CES in general.

Nintendo's newest console will go on sale in June, immediately after the Electronic Entertainment Expo hosted in Los Angeles.

Link.

Reading the article again, it really comes off as them slacking/reporting false information. But, I found it interesting.

 

[Thraktor]

Link.

Reading the article again, it really comes off as them slacking/reporting false information. But, I found it interesting.

Yeah, looks like they just misinterpreted Nintendo's statement of it going on sale sometime after E3.

 

[Bullza2o]

Link.

Reading the article again, it really comes off as them slacking/reporting false information. But, I found it interesting.

There's a [small] chance that they'll pull a surprise launch like the 360 slim. I expect a September/October launch for the earliest territory though.

 

[Anth0ny]

NOTE: The following is not a new article addressing the release date, but instead is a blurb taken from an article about WiiU's presence at CES in general.



Link.

Reading the article again, it really comes off as them slacking/reporting false information. But, I found it interesting.

haha

They obviously misinterpreted. But that would be awesome.

 

[guek]

I think a launch in early August would be best, provided they have a decent launch lineup. Build hype and maintain momentum up to Christmas time where you release the real big guns (probably mario).

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

I think a launch in early August would be best, provided they have a decent launch lineup. Build hype and maintain momentum up to Christmas time where you release the real big guns (probably mario).

I don't see them waiting around at all this time because of what happened to the 3DS.

If Mario can be ready, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a launch title.

That's a big "if" though.

 

[luffeN]

Interesting. A heavy system, particularly one that does not have the PSU integrated, indicates one thing: massive heat-disposal facilities.

Have we ever seen the PSU of Wii U? Because maybe it is internal and that's why it is heavier than expected?

Edit: And I like what the Nintendo reps said here: They joked that the final design will be something you'll be able to swallow.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

iPad 2: 1024-by-768-pixel resolution at 132 pixels per inch (ppi): 9.7-inch diagonal
WiiU: 854 x 480 at unknown ppi - though probably quite high: 6-inch diagonal.

too bad before the wii-u comes out an ipad 3 with resolution 2048x1536 will be out.

cmon nuntendoz get with the timz. Retina or bust.

 

[tsab]

Have we ever seen the PSU of Wii U? Because maybe it is internal and that's why it is heavier than expected?

Edit: And I like what the Nintendo reps said here: They joked that the final design will be something you'll be able to swallow.

We have seen the PSU plug on the WiiU.
not the PSU though

edit:found it

edit2: Now I think about did Nintendo ever made a home console with an INTERNAL PSU? Every single one I can think of (don't know about the nes/snes revisions) had an external PSU

 

[FyreWulff]

We have seen the PSU plug on the WiiU.
not the PSU though

edit:found it

edit2: Now I think about did Nintendo ever made a home console with an INTERNAL PSU? Every single one I can think of (don't know about the nes/snes revisions) had an external PSU

They haven't, which is why their earlier consoles didn't need fans. The N64 came the closest, the PSU was plugged right into the back of the console but was for all purposes separated from the rest of the console.

 

[v1oz]

We have seen the PSU plug on the WiiU.
not the PSU though

edit:found it

edit2: Now I think about did Nintendo ever made a home console with an INTERNAL PSU? Every single one I can think of (don't know about the nes/snes revisions) had an external PSU

Nintendo aren't stupid, they'd never design something with an internal PSU.

 

[blu]

Have we ever seen the PSU of Wii U? Because maybe it is internal and that's why it is heavier than expected?

Unless something changed in the design since last E3, the PSU is external.

Edit: And I like what the Nintendo reps said here: They joked that the final design will be something you'll be able to swallow.

Not sure I can take a second job at the moment.

 

[brochiller]

Anybody else see that Pachter once again said that the Wii U will be on the same level as the 360 in that CES discussion?

I don't really trust Pachter, but he seems to be really sure about this point, which is not very encouraging.

 

[EloquentM]

Anybody else see that Pachter once again said that the Wii U will be on the same level as the 360 in that CES discussion?

I don't really trust Pachter, but he seems to be really sure about this point, which is not very encouraging.

Nintendo would have to intentionally downgrade the parts in the wiiU to make it on par with the 360 since apparently they're using newer off the shelf parts than the 360. I think someone said most of its parts were out in 2008.

 

[Always-honest]

Anybody else see that Pachter once again said that the Wii U will be on the same level as the 360 in that CES discussion?

I don't really trust Pachter, but he seems to be really sure about this point, which is not very encouraging.

how is that even possible. They have to put a lot of effort in to making it on the same level after all these years.

I refuse to believe it.

 

[Sadist]

Pachter also said that MS isn't afraid of Wii U because "It's just a 360 with a tablet"

How many predictions about Nintendo from Pachter were right on the money guys?

 

[guek]

Anybody else see that Pachter once again said that the Wii U will be on the same level as the 360 in that CES discussion?

I don't really trust Pachter, but he seems to be really sure about this point, which is not very encouraging.

Pachter doesn't know shit. I feel like his presence in video game journalism becomes less and less validated as time goes on. He's an over-glorified guesser. I fully believe that if any devs who are working on the system could leak info, it wouldn't be kept hush hush and it wouldn't be to pachter.

I sincerely believe he doesn't have access to any more info than we do.

 

[The_Endgamer]

Pachter doesn't know shit. I feel like his presence in video game journalism becomes less and less validated as time goes on. He's an over-glorified guesser. I fully believe that if any devs who are working on the system could leak info, it wouldn't be kept hush hush and it wouldn't be to pachter.

I sincerely believe he doesn't have access to any more info than we do.

Isn't it the job of an analyst to guess (moreso calculate outcomes) based on trends? lol

 

[guek]

Isn't it the job of an analyst to guess based on trends? lol

Analysts tend to have a firm understanding of the industry upon which they are commenting. I really can't say that applies to Pachter.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I feel like companies tell Pachter what they want him to repeat because he has influence over stock prices.

I don't actually believe Microsoft won't show their new console this year, despite telling Pachter that, because they don't want their stock lowering on the dropping 360 sales before that console is announced.

 

[Antagon]

Anybody else see that Pachter once again said that the Wii U will be on the same level as the 360 in that CES discussion?

I don't really trust Pachter, but he seems to be really sure about this point, which is not very encouraging.

Pachter was predicting a Wii HD for 3 years in a row. And with that he meant a console that was specifically built to play Wii games in HD, no next gen. You can't take that guy all that serious, he doesn't know any more then the other users here.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Pachter is awesome, I like having him around in the roundtables and shows and all that, I enjoy hearing his thoughts. But his predictions are more often than not hilarious.

 

[Easy_D]

Guys, any speculation regarding the orange mystery port? Wonder what it's for..

 

[Tenck]

Don't know if I should make a new thread, but accordin to Tech Spot, WiiU is going to be sold a bit after E3.

http://www.techspot.com/news/47004-nintendo-shows-off-new-wii-u-at-ces.html

Edit: Beaten!!

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

Don't know if I should make a new thread, but accordin to Tech Spot, WiiU is going to be sold a bit after E3.

http://www.techspot.com/news/47004-n...-u-at-ces.html

they added a note on the bottom of the article to correct themselves.

 

[EvilMario]

Don't know if I should make a new thread, but accordin to Tech Spot, WiiU is going to be sold a bit after E3.

http://www.techspot.com/news/47004-nintendo-shows-off-new-wii-u-at-ces.html

Edit: Beaten!!

For sale right after the conference finishes, I hope.

 

[Fare Godmace]

Guys, any speculation regarding the orange mystery port? Wonder what it's for..

I think that it's the connector for the IR-sensor. At least it looks just as the one the Wii has.

 

[JJConrad]

Guys, any speculation regarding the orange mystery port? Wonder what it's for..

It's there to get another 6 years out of that joke.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

I think that it's the connector for the IR-sensor. At least it looks just as the one the Wii has.

Nope, it's the pikmin port.

 

[Snakeyes]

Anybody else see that Pachter once again said that the Wii U will be on the same level as the 360 in that CES discussion?

I don't really trust Pachter, but he seems to be really sure about this point, which is not very encouraging.

Considering the fact that the opposite happens in 90% of his predictions, it's very encouraging.

 

[Dreamwriter]

Nintendo aren't stupid, they'd never design something with an internal PSU.

Why would that be stupid? PSU's can be small and light, even in powerful computers without fans. You just have to do a good job designing the system.

 

[Thraktor]

Nintendo would have to intentionally downgrade the parts in the wiiU to make it on par with the 360 since apparently they're using newer off the shelf parts than the 360. I think someone said most of its parts were out in 2008.

The CPU, at the very least, is a custom design by IBM, so it's neither an off-the-shelf part, nor was it out in 2008.

The GPU in early dev kits was apparently from AMD's R700 series, which was released in 2008. It's unknown if there will be significant customisations to the chip for Nintendo, or even if the final GPU will in fact be a newer architecture, and the R700 was just used as a placeholder.

The RAM is almost certainly going to be of a variety that was available in 2008, unless they're using DDR4, which there is virtually zero chance of happening.

Anyway, even in the worst case scenario, the Wii U would be noticeably more powerful than the XBox360.

 

[AceBandage]

The thing is going to be producing enough heat as it is.
No need to have the PSU internal when it can easily be external.

 

[Exterminieren]

For sale right after the conference finishes, I hope.

"And Wii U will go on sale... five minutes ago".

Run on shops across the globe, Wii U immediately sold out, console war over.

 

[EloquentM]

The CPU, at the very least, is a custom design by IBM, so it's neither an off-the-shelf part, nor was it out in 2008.

The GPU in early dev kits was apparently from AMD's R700 series, which was released in 2008. It's unknown if there will be significant customisations to the chip for Nintendo, or even if the final GPU will in fact be a newer architecture, and the R700 was just used as a placeholder.

The RAM is almost certainly going to be of a variety that was available in 2008, unless they're using DDR4, which there is virtually zero chance of happening.

Anyway, even in the worst case scenario, the Wii U would be noticeably more powerful than the XBox360.

thanks for the clarification!

 

[royalan]

I am comforted by the observation the the console itself is surprisingly heavy.

That, plus all the vents and large fans give me confidence that Nintendo's not cheapening out.

 

[AzaK]

"And Wii U will go on sale... five minutes ago".

Run on shops across the globe, Wii U immediately sold out, console war over.

Which I why I will be watching E3 on my iPhone from inside a gaming store

 

[AceBandage]

It's impossible for that to happen.
They have to announce to retailers to clear space for the items, so we'd know at least a few days ahead of time.

 

[-Pyromaniac-]

It's impossible for that to happen.
They have to announce to retailers to clear space for the items, so we'd know at least a few days ahead of time.

err and that's ignoring massive things like an actual marketing campaign having to take place as well.

 

[[Nintex]]

It's impossible for that to happen.
They have to announce to retailers to clear space for the items, so we'd know at least a few days ahead of time.

How did MS do it with the Xbox Slim?

 

[AceBandage]

How did MS do it with the Xbox Slim?

They didn't?
We knew quite ahead of time that it existed. For those exact reasons.

 

[guek]

I've always wanted nintendo to launch Wii U some time during the summer. Maybe it's because I wont have much free time in the fall, but I think it would work out pretty well if they could use E3 to lead directly into launch hype.

E3 2012 in early June - Info blowout, launch lineup, price, all detailed. Holiday lineup detailed. Drop some real bombs to create a media frenzy

Early July - Get demo units into stores and have worldwide mall "experience" stations like they did with the Wii

Worldwide simultaneous launch early/mid August with at least one proof of concept game packed in and a slew of impressive ports.

September to December- Space out major releases such as Pikmin 3 and NSMB:Wii-U and whatever major projects they have cooking. Ensure major ports such as GTAV find their way onto the console. Commence a massive marketing blitz that doesn't let up until the end of the year.


Realistically speaking, it'd probably be near impossible to do a simultaneous worldwide launch and coordinate all those demo stations, but it'd be really cool if they could pull it off.

 

[[Nintex]]

If it comes 'early' I can only see July happening like the Europeans predict. You don't launch a console in August, that's usually the slowest month for videogame sales.