Why would Wii U lack a tesselator unit, though?
Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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Why would Wii U lack a tesselator unit, though?
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Umm... I'm a Nintendo fan, just as big of one as the most of you. In fact I'll even admit that I'm biased towards games from them or even exclusive games on thier platforms. I want them to succeed more then any other company in the world.
It just irks me when I go into Wii threads and everybody is like "graphics don't matter" then we have the same people in this thread praying for a strong console and shunning anyone saying anything "negative" about the Wii-U's power and praising anyone saying anything "positive" about the Wii-U's power.
A lot of you are just as bad as the trolls who said they couldn't play Wii games because they "didn't look good enough".
Place the discs with your wiimote OR the touchscreen!
New info has surfaced that the Nintendo Juicy will be at about the same power level as a 360, maybe a bit less.
I think there was some other stuff we covered, but it wasn't power-related, so I didn't pay too much attention..
Power is very important because:
1: 3rd party developers want it.
2: It affects the quality of a game, not only gameplay-wise, but also its dynamic as an experience.
Huh? Who said that?
Smiles and Cries
Member
Juicy <--- I think a candy maker will want to have a word with Nintendo about that trade mark
WiiU being the same power as 360 is not new news people have been saying that since speculation thread zero
WiiU being the same power as 360 is not new news people have been saying that since speculation thread zero
qft
Power is very important. I'll be pissed if we have a repeat of the current generation when it comes to the Wii U's power. Shit will look archaic 3 years into the gen.
Ohh I see.. well, I had to ask
it was easy because I've seeN this duck's commercial since the 90's LOL
You were blessed by the duck for so long! O:
We've only just had him appearing here in the UK...
Smiles and Cries
Member
I like the latest news from Mark Reign that early Next Gen games may stick with UE3 that makes a lot of sense the UE4 worries was starting to bug me
Captain Smoker
Member
Here's a different approach: Is there any demo or game that could show us how X720 or PS4 games could look like if they have good hardware?
I already asked this once, but noone responded lol.
Could they look like the GTA IV iCEnhancer Mod? ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBw0R1AUU64 ). Or even better?
I mean, even if the games looked like this (and the icenhancer mod looks really good if you ask me), I don't see why I should be disappointed by this graphics in comparison:
I already asked this once, but noone responded lol.
Could they look like the GTA IV iCEnhancer Mod? ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBw0R1AUU64 ). Or even better?
I mean, even if the games looked like this (and the icenhancer mod looks really good if you ask me), I don't see why I should be disappointed by this graphics in comparison:
It amazes me how many people seriously don't understand what an engine and its limiting factors are. I'm going to keep quoting this in every thread necessary until people stop spreading FUD. An engine's theoretical limits do not represent the barrier for entry.
You mean "Modern Mushroom Warefare"
Oh god, what the fuck? That's horrible! When it zoomed out at the start, I laughed though
well you know, kids gotta know that it is cool to put chemical stuff that touched your dirty toilet in your eye!
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Captain Smoker said:
I can't take exception with a lot of that. But there's always context of each individual conversation to be considered, and you're painting with a mighty wide brush.
As for your last line: I do take exception to that. The trolls you speak of often actively seek to shit-up Nintendo threads, which, I think, outweighs the sins you're protesting.
For me it's irrelevant: 3000US$ PC, 3340px? Is there even a TV doing this? And lol at the brown blur, it's almost a cliché.
Yeah that's something I was asking myself earlier. I'm not a 3D tech guy, but do some web programming. I use a pretty powerfull framework that can be compared in some way to a 3D engine, I can built great web apps with it but it also does Hello World demos. I mean, Nintendo can very well make a Wii Sports 1 on UE3 if they wanted, isn't it?
Seriously, how some gafers (i'm not talking about you but to the messages you're referring to) can still write "same power than Xbox360" after all the infos saying the contrary ? It's so difficult to read all the sentences of a message + take into consideration all the other data that points to a completely different situation ? Wii U =/= Xbox360, it's crystal clear, it's a fact, well, even better, it was a fact some months ago, so it can only get better. And i'm talking tech-wise but also even with the results on screens. Even for "just" third-parties ports. So you can expect to say wow for optimized and tailored-for-the-system first parties and exclusive titles.
Some have the extrapolating-illness
The amount of juice it has matters, but only to some extent. These are consoles, after all. As I've said to others in this forum: if you want to be on the bleeding edge of technology and love your image quality you'd be a PC gamer.
well you know, kids gotta know that it is cool to put chemical stuff that touched your dirty toilet in your eye!
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This so much. What a fucking tease - they slip a sneaky little clip of the Zelda 'game' in the Wii U real, and then give people a demo to play with - and that's all. It's like they showed us what we could get and then left it there.
To think the graphics will improve... and to think what Zora's Domain might look like... hnnnggghhhh.
Seriously, how some gafers can still write "same power than Xbox360" after all the infos saying the contrary ? It's so difficult to read all the sentences of a message + take into consideration all the other data that points to a completely different situation ? Wii U =/= Xbox360, it's crystal clear, it's a fact, well, even better, it was a fact some months ago, so it can only get better. And i'm talking tech-wise but also even with the results on screens. Even for "just" third-parties ports. So you can expect to say wow for optimized and tailored-for-the-system first parties and exclusive titles.
Some have the extrapolating-illness
A concise summary of all your previous post... ^^
"Biais de confirmation"
jump_button
Banned
the thing about wii was it was too under powered and it didnt get the PS360 games with more power let them do more thing they couldn't do and give them more freedom
devs just didnt give it ago for being too far away from others, I dont think anyone thinks that be a good idea for next gen too
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I'm about at the point with all of the information floating around here that I may just not come back into this thread until E3 and Nintendo shows us directly. All kinds of craziness going on.
AWWWWW YEAAAHHH...
WAIT! :3
She looks like one of those characters from one of the cheesy shows on the SciFi network, hehe..
(and that's creepy, Dr Wong. What happens when his filament breaks? Does he go in for surgery, or does he just die?)
jump_button
Banned
its 2nd hand info take it as you will chinese whispers and all that
JoshuaJSlone
Member
We know the controller. We know the storage media. We know Nintendo games will be the prime draw. U's capabilities and the multiplatform situation are the big, related unknowns.
Was a source for that ever given? Because I don't remember it either.HylianTom said:Yep. Other than missing/forgetting about rumble, I've been paying attention.
- No one apart from a select handful of people think Wii U is going to be on parity with the other next gen consoles
- I repeat, very few people think Wii U is going to rival other next gen consoles
- People are discussing specs the most because that's what rumors talk about most frequently. This is a speculation thread and we make do with what's available. But at the same time, there's plenty of talk going around about possibilities of the controller and games we'd like to see.
- While the rhetoric has changed since the launch of the Wii, no one has said that graphics don't matter. Most people are open about the fact that they're interested in this console simply because it's a nintendo console in HD. NO ONE IS SAYING GRAPHICAL CAPABILITY ISN'T A FACTOR. Even the people who believe PS4/XB3 will be close to Wii U are open about their interest in HD capabilities.
- It's natural for people to want positive news to be credible and negative news to be false, especially when they have an invested interest in the topic at hand. These responses should perhaps be tempered and mediated a bit more, but why is it so surprising that it's happening? You really expect people not to get excited about a 5x 360 rumor and be just as receptive to a rumor that says it's weaker than the current gen? That's positively insane to expect that of people.
- For the last goddamn time, the ability to run UE4 is going to depend more on required feature sets than it will on the ability to push polygons. Expecting UE4 on Wii U is not unreasonable. At all. Especially since we have no clue whatsoever what's going to be required to run it. None. Zero. Nada. Zilch.
I'm writing an entire psychology research paper in 3 hours so I won't be here much today but are you guys seriously still arguing about power? I might take a break from posting in here until the next investors meeting, this is getting sad.
edit: the people who are being dramatic should either stop caring about the Wii U or wait until e3 to voice your disappointed opinion because you're just blowing hot gas at this point.
edit: the people who are being dramatic should either stop caring about the Wii U or wait until e3 to voice your disappointed opinion because you're just blowing hot gas at this point.
You contradict yourself in the same point.
Yeah i know HylianTom wasn't saying "Wii U = Xbox360", he is one of the best-informed gafer since he follow the thread closely, he summed up with some humor how some other posters understood the info given, and it was toward them that i've written this post
it's going to be the main topic until e3. 78 more days...
damn youtube won't let me upload long videos. I have E3 04 ready =(
Tell me what's wrong
How can i try to alleviate your doubts ?
Well, i know some members will still not believe in my information even after my efforts to try making them legit. Keep your critical mind, it's the thing to do with second-hand knowledge info and not straight facts from the manufacturer. Even in the latter, it's not always the truth so
No, I do not. I'm saying UE4 the ability to run UE4 is going to depend on required feature sets, of which we know nothing.
Maybe I should clarify and say the important factor here is what new feature sets will be required. And by "expect it to run on Wii U," I mean we have no present reason to expect it wont.
Eh. If you're friends with developers then you'd already know game engines are developed with feature sets in mind.
Whether the Wii U or Durango GPUs have 500 SPUs or 1000 SPUs, for example, they could probably run the same games under the economics of scale under (example, again) MT Framework or Frostbite 2. The same way my Crossfire'd 5850s run BF3 with everything on Ultra but without AA. However, my brother's 570 SLIs have everything on Ultra but with 2xAA. However, another friend with a modest Dell laptop runs it on Medium with FXAA (yuck, blur!) and it still looks better than the 360 version.
What's my point? Most engines are quite scalable to different levels of hardware. We don't know enough about UE4 to know where its cutoff point is. But we're pretty sure that the Wii U dev kits had ATI hardware circa 2009.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/29563NintendoWorldReport said:
so.... super cheap or even free fully fledged games on wii u possible. And will this game be retail or DD? who knows?
i just know that i'm gonna buy a stack of Nintendo Cash Cards.....just in case....
Tell me what's wrong
How can i try to alleviate your doubts ?
Well, i know some members will still not believe in my information even after my efforts to try making them legit. Keep your critical mind, it's the thing to do with second-hand knowledge info and not straight facts from the manufacturer. Even in the latter, it's not always the truth so
cell phone shots of the dev kit, of course.
with duckface!
sounds like "cheap" or "F2P"
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Awe-zome. Just awe-zome.
I SO want Zelda Wii U to be in the same style as this demo.
I'm sorry, but I just love the "Twilight Princess beefed up to near-CG-like levels" look.