Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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AceBandage
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Why? Nintendo will do whatever they want, whenever they want.
I can't change that by going insane over articles that were obviously written by someone with no knowledge of how technology works.
Personally, I enjoy the ride, regardless of where it leads. And a lot of people don't seem to understand this. I don't hype things specifically because I think they'll be amazing. I do it because it's fun to hype things.
It's usually things I have an interest in, but I don't expect everyone's socks to be blown off.
YOU SHUTUP.
Yeah. The sad part is that it doesn't matter how fed up the gaf demographic gets.
I wouldn't be if only every day wasn't filled with dooming bullshit thrown toward Nintendo and such.
Heck, just watch, even after E3 people will still spit at Nintendo's face because SOMETHING isn't going to be at someone's taste.
ShockingAlberto
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It doesn't really work that way.
Nintendo won't care and the media will just go with the narrative they've been focused on from before. The narrative last year was that Wii U could not be as powerful as the 360, so when they used 360 footage, it "didn't look as good as the 360."
Pretty much. Nintendo is going to carry-on, doing its own Nintendo-ey way, making money, watching competitors and developers fall, making more weird games, ignoring the media, moving at their own pace through space and time and technology, etc.
No matter what they do, the narrative has been set.
-Pyromaniac-
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Just going by stupid rumours, you know what the funny part is, I'd rather have a nintendo hd console of ANY power over a console that forces me to stay online in order to play my games.
AceBandage
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Nintendo will not do whatever they want, whenever they want. Those days are over ever since the 3DS launch.
They wanted a $250 3DS and the market told them to go fuck themselves.
They didn't have great 3DS titles for the 3DS launch, and the market told Nintendo to go fuck themselves.
When the press got negative about 3DS, Nintendo decided to start doing risky moves that benefited consumers (you). They started doing things that were very un-Nintendo like giving out free ambassador games and cutting price on Nintendo hardware 3-4 months after release (which is unheard of at Nintendo)
People won't be surprised by Nintendo unless they do things that Nintendo doesn't typically do. And Nintendo won't do things that are very "un-Nintendo" unless they feel pressure and negativity towards their product.
Nintendo fans benefit both software wise and hardware wise when Nintendo is put into tough situations that force them to take major action. And nobody says you have to act crazy over any articles. You don't have to do anything.
But Nintendo fans should be happy that the media and press is sending a clear message to Nintendo that they have to do a lot to impress people if they plan to sell us a $350-$400 console. Again, pressure on Nintendo benefits the Nintendo fans.
AceBandage
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Pressure from the media means jack shit to Nintendo.
Pressure from investors, means slightly more.
It's pressure from partners and from sales that matter most.
Articles on Gamebiz aren't going to change anything that Nintendo does.
I love it.
Messageboards: "OMG WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN SAY SOMETHING NINTENDO"
Nintendo: "Wait till E3. Seriously guys."
Plinko
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And then many on GAF will "repeat themselves" by claiming it doesn't look as good, just like they did when saying the Wii U sizzle reel looked worse than PS3/360 games (when it was actually USING PS3/360 footage).
There is no pleasing some people.
The hardcore gamers that Nintendo claims to want do pay attention to the gaming media.
Maybe the gaming media doesn't mean much to the investors. But what happens if negativity spreads to the mainstream media like Forbes and Wall Street Journal? Will investors pay more attention?
I think so. And it'll force Nintendo to give consumers more bang for their buck, and Nintendo fans like you and me will benefit.
AceBandage
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Ewww? They do? Gross.
lol yes its quite unfortunate.
Indeed. The opinion is set no matter what, among many GAFfers and media personalities.
R
Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
I believe the crazy hasn't even escaped the womb yet, it's in fetal stage.
That's one amazingly messed up sentence right there
Its not impossible by the way, its just not something that's going to happen, no matter how many made up "sources" say otherwise.
DefectiveReject
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All these articles sound like people trying to force Nintendos 's hand.... lots of negative press... Nintendo gets pissed off and releases something.
I think Nintendo bought the middle ware they did as shitty 3rd parties where struggling. So Nintendo bought them decent middle ware to catch up.
I also think they've not shown anything nor allowed anyone else to as the hardware is still evolving
And until its lockeddown we are getting nothing. When they do show off though my lord are 3rd parties going to have to raise their game
EAD Tokyo and Retro will shine so fucking brightly that everyone will say wow
;-p
I think Nintendo bought the middle ware they did as shitty 3rd parties where struggling. So Nintendo bought them decent middle ware to catch up.
I also think they've not shown anything nor allowed anyone else to as the hardware is still evolving
And until its lockeddown we are getting nothing. When they do show off though my lord are 3rd parties going to have to raise their game
EAD Tokyo and Retro will shine so fucking brightly that everyone will say wow
;-p
Yes, the Wii U is going to fall short from developers expectations of a next gen system. Specially since we know that the expectations are 8GB or RAM, 3 TFlops GPU's, etc. None is disputing that. But there's a difference between "not on par with the Nextbox, Ps4 or what the developers want" and not being an upgrade (or a downgrade!?) from the 360/Ps3. Even the smallest, cheapest and lowest clocked, laziest GPU Nintendo can get form AMD should offer a sizable jump, ala 3DS vs PSP.
One good thing about this article is that it is so over the top, that it could nudge other Wii U devs into speaking up. Sure, it's just one article, but I don't even have to check Google to know that game sites and blogs the world over are running with it.
Ugh, E3 feels further away than it ever has.
Ugh, E3 feels further away than it ever has.
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Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
As for other things, something quite interesting just popped up regarding exhibitors at E3. VEFXi, creator of the 3D-Bee has appeared under the following categories:
3D Development - Nintendo Wii U
Accessories - Nintendo Wii U
Action - Nintendo Wii U
Adventure - Nintendo Wii U
Arcade - Nintendo Wii U
Hardware - Nintendo Wii U
Source: http://www.mapyourshow.com/shows/index.cfm?Show_ID=E312
From VEFXi's homepage:
http://www.vefxi.com/products/
Could it mean that we will be experiencing 3D films via the Wii U Remote perhaps?
It also appears that Capcom has been removed from the "Action" category. Reasons unknown.
3D Development - Nintendo Wii U
Accessories - Nintendo Wii U
Action - Nintendo Wii U
Adventure - Nintendo Wii U
Arcade - Nintendo Wii U
Hardware - Nintendo Wii U
Source: http://www.mapyourshow.com/shows/index.cfm?Show_ID=E312
From VEFXi's homepage:
http://www.vefxi.com/products/
Could it mean that we will be experiencing 3D films via the Wii U Remote perhaps?
It also appears that Capcom has been removed from the "Action" category. Reasons unknown.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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The negative press you choose to highlight.
I'd trust actual people who named their names and companies that named their names over anonymous sources.
AceBandage
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Rösti;36591355 said:
The system is capable of 3D.
The controller will not be.
I have a feeling Nintendo will play its cards when they need to. The consumer isn't always right, but when they are, they are quick to rectify the issue.
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Rösti
Unconfirmed Member
I thought this wasn't confirmed, just suggested.
I'd imagine that at one point Nintendo really did give a lot of care into the media narrative that was crafted around them and tried to control it through "press incentives" and the like. I bet they stopped when they saw their attempts to control had little effect, and essentially they were throwing money into the drain.
Reassuring words.
Rösti;36591446 said:
No 3D on the DRC at the end of March. I doubt they have the time to implement this function and warn the third-parties at last minute (à la wii-remote speaker) with such a change that would imply another hardware boost to allow stereoscopic 3D, modifications of UI/Gameplay/gamedesign ideas for their projects, etc.
But interesting information nonetheless, surely linked to the ability of the system to display 3D on the main screen, with glasses.
Shikamaru Ninja
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Monolith basically came in as a production team to Zelda: Skyward Sword, not too differently than how Retro Studios came in as a production team to Mario Kart 7. Quite frankly Nintendo (or any in-house developer) does not 400 animators. Usually in Japan animation and additional production modeling is farmed out to several small companies. Check out any Tecmo-Koei, SEGA, Platinum, Square-Enix, Capcom game and surely you will find multiple mysterious companies pop up somewhere. Nintendo themselves have several small companies that do several small things like animation, motion capturing, digital imaging and debug. For Mario Kart 7 and Skyward Sword, they decided to use Monolith and Retro Studios to do the animation, and provide additional graphic modeling. But Monolith did not design any Zelda dungeons, nor did Retro Studios design any actual course tracks (outside of Wuhu Island which EAD edited according to the director).
Nintendo games, which probably simile many other developers, start out with a prototype team, which then move on to the core team, then finally usually spend a year in production. Now with simple 3DS games requiring staffs double than that of typical GameCube games, and Wii U games requiring the biggest staffs ever from Nintendo. Well production will have to be handled efficiently.
Prototype Team ex: EAD Technology or SRD Technology: Technology teams creating engines and more importantly mechanics that can spend several years being worked on before becoming the main concept of an entire game, or a mini-game feature in a game.
Core Team ex: EAD Software Group No. 1 - Create the design templates, additional mechanics and features, story, course and dungeon wireframe, main characters. Can work on a game for a year or longer before full production becomes approved or available.
Sound Team ex: EAD Sound Team - Create the sound program and musical score for the game.
Production Team: EAD Production Team / Retro Studios (MK7) / Monoloth (Zelda) - Full steam production work like creating environments, additional characters, objects, and animation.
The amount of teams will dramatically change this generation over last. That is for sure. Each game will require much more staff and much more liability from the publisher. Noise has been involved in a few games, but they depended on other developers to make the games happen. Noise may be more of a paper company than a house of programmers and designers.
Japanese RPGs have never been at the forefront of playable demontrations at an E3. If there is a Wii U RPG from Monolith in production (not just early development), there is not much faith that it will be at E3. That may be for a later Japanese Nintendo event.
Yes. The Pikmin team was actually developing the worthless Big Brain Academy games and the New Play Control Pikmin ports. But both properties are typically handled by this group.
Possible Near Launch Candidates That Exist with Arguable Proof for Wii U
* New Super Mario Bros. Mii (Nintendo EAD Kyoto - Group No. 4)
* Pikmin 3 (Nintendo EAD Kyoto - Group No. 4)
* Wii U Sports (Nintendo EAD Kyoto - Group No. 2)
* Wii U Play (Nintendo EAD Kyoto - Group No. 2)
* Wii U Relax (Nintendo SPD - Group No. 1)
* Wii U Fit (Nintendo EAD Kyoto - Group No.5)
Projects That Might be for Wii U
* New Retro Studios Project
* New Nintendo Software Technology Corp. Project
* Eternal Darkness Rumors
* Monolith Soft Project for Wii U
Intelligent Systems is booked with the 3DS. Most of the other small Japanese affiliated developers will likely develop smaller 3DS titles, 3DSWare or maybe Wii u Ware.
Oh, not this, not now ><
A lot of websites are relaying this "Wii U < PS360" drama... again ! ><
With the same following comments, the same fanboyz Vs Haterz quote wars...again ! ><
It's tiresome and exhausting. And in these moments, there's a drape of shame enveloping this media, still rather immature compare to other ones when we witness that.
A lot of websites are relaying this "Wii U < PS360" drama... again ! ><
With the same following comments, the same fanboyz Vs Haterz quote wars...again ! ><
It's tiresome and exhausting. And in these moments, there's a drape of shame enveloping this media, still rather immature compare to other ones when we witness that.
bgassassin
Member
MOAR SHAYDUHS!!!!
Not surprised one bit. They're gonna run far with this one, I feel.
If it somehow does end-up being some elaborate April Fools Part Deux joke, I'm going to laugh so hard..
AceBandage
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How many shaders in a powerplex?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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You need to set the record straight with a really detailed final post about what your people are telling you the specifications of the SNES are.
AceBandage
Banned
Megaton?
bgassassin
Member
lulwut ?
Concerning the Wii U power ? Well, i took every precautions in the world, and never stated that it will be a beast, but it's clearly impossible for it to be equal, technically, to ps360. Now, there are situations, specific, when what you'll see on the main screen, won't be far superior that current gen versions, but me and a lot of other posters already explained why, and it can't be a serious way to gauge the Wii U capabilities.
Hey, are you serious ? I mean, you are <censored> menacing a frenchman who can infuriate and irritate people far away just by a few teasing words, imagine what kind of powers i'm gifted in real life ><
AceBandage
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I prefer when the doubting-ones are expressing themselves like that, it's funny at least
Yeah... but you're French. You'll back down from a real fight.
<3
I won't have to back down, my garlic smell will push away my opponents
And a TEE EEE VEE TWO POINT OH! right?
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It's amazing to see other sites pick up shit like this without any real confirmation. It's like journalism has disappeared from the gaming media. Is there actually one single site on the internet that tends to be more journalistic and investigatory with regard to gaming or is the entire gaming media industry just a pile of hacks?I prefer when the doubting-ones are expressing themselves like that, it's funny at least