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[Shiggy]

You're seriously trying to say though that this game:

had better art direction?

...different strokes for different folks I guess...

Why don't we go with the source images instead of how it was displayed on the SNES?

Yes, the DKC backgrounds do look much better. In addition, the character models were a major backstep for the series and looked rather bland when compared to the ones in DKJB.

 

[Father_Brain]

We're not going to hear any news on Monday. Folks should stop raising other folk's hopes.

Even if that rumor is true, it's not likely that there'll be any sudden flood of news on Monday. More like devs being able to announce/discuss (but not actually show, I presume) the Wii U projects they have in development as warranted.

 

[cyberheater]

News on monday? That's news to me.

Someone hinted that NDA's for some WiiU games might be lifted on Monday. I don't believe it for a second.

 

[Gahiggidy]

I'd still bet on Nintendo not allowing any screens of Wii U games to be shown. They will want to have have total control on what and when the first screens and video are shown of the new console.

 

[gashikunFLCL]

Someone hinted that NDA's for some WiiU games might be lifted on Monday. I don't believe it for a second.

That would be good.

 

[Agent Unknown]

You're seriously trying to say though that this game:

had better art direction?

...different strokes for different folks I guess...

Yeah, SNES DKC looked amazing for its time but DKCR's art and animation pop with a lot more polish and will no doubt age better as well.

 

[HylianTom]

I'd still bet on Nintendo not allowing any screens of Wii U games to be shown. They will want to have have total control on what and when the first screens and video are shown of the new console.

I'm inclined to agree. Nintendo's gonna want to wow people, and to have everything ready for E3 would maybe have heavier impact. They'll want to avoid any sort of "car vault" situations..

Now, I'm less conviced that they'll keep mum on just game titles as we draw nearer to E3..

 

[antonz]

I could see Nintendo lifteing NDAs on specific titles monday. Ones that meet their goals showing hardware abilities etc.

I doubt they would do a general NDA lifting.

 

[guek]

Why don't we go with the source images instead of how it was displayed on the SNES?

http://www.abload.de/img/dkc3hqx8h.jpg[IMG]

[IMG]http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/donkey-kong-country-returns-chest-pound-screenshot.jpg[IMG]


Yes, the DKC backgrounds do look much better. In addition, the character models were a major backstep for the series and looked rather bland when compared to the ones in DKJB.[/QUOTE]

So you're going to criticize me for using a screenshot of what DC [I]actually[/I] ended up looking like and then compare source images of DC to a cropped, zoomed in shot of one of the more bland locations in DKCR? I might as well use dophin pics then.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Man, I hope AC3 ends up actually looking like this on wii u...



It just needs a decent framerate

I expect this to be released around the same time as the Wii U, so it'll be one of the first multiplatform games that I buy for the system. I'll be moving all of my multiplatform purchases to that system. I'm hoping that Criterion's NFS is set for that platform. It should be since EA seems to be positioning themselves as major supporter of the system.

See, that's an interesting word to use. Platformer. I never really viewed Mario 64, Banjo Kazooie, Mario Sunshine and similar games as a platformer. They were more "exploration" games, I'd say. I guess that was the mindset for developers during the N64 era. "Now that we have this new 3D technology, here's a huge, open stage, now explore it and collect shit. Beat bosses, find stars, coins, jinjos, shines, blueprints, etc."

The Galaxy games ditched the exploration aspect of those games and returned to the more linear style of platforming. I'd call Galaxy 1/2 a 3D platformer. Mario 64 and Banjo Kazooie? Not so much.

I can understand how they'd be viewed as more of an exploration game than a platformer. The games obviously had a different feel compared to the 2D platformers that we were all accustomed to at the time. I think that they all still had a big focus on platforming, so it was easy to label them as platformers. But i've always viewed them as part of that genre. Maybe a sub-genre.

I think the biggest problem with DK64's collecting is that the amount of collecting was just overwhelming. Mario 64 did a great job of rarely making the player feel like they had to constantly go out of their way to get what they needed to complete the game. So that game just had a really nice flow to it even though collecting played a role in what you had to do. DK64 never had that flow (at least not imo).

But I can understand why people enjoy it. I know a lot of gamers love games that give the player a lot of things to collect. And I really can't think of many games that can compete with DK64 in that area.

 

[Baby Yoshi]

Why don't we go with the source images instead of how it was displayed on the Wii?

..

 

[Shiggy]

So you're going to criticize me for using a screenshot of what DC actually ended up looking like and then compare source images of DC to a cropped, zoomed in shot of one of the more bland locations in DKCR? I might as well use dophin pics then.

Thought we were talking about the art style? And I only posted the latter shot because of the DK character, sorry about not making that clear.

..

Had the game looked anything like this, then it would've been great.

 

[Nibel]

GUYS don't you see it? They want to keep their Wii U stuff so tight that we speculate until we attack us each other - it's a tarp

BTW, Baby Yoshi's DK images look cool - but don't fit with the franchise at all.

 

[Dr.Hadji]

Retro now designed the majority of MK7 tracks? The only course work they actually did was on the 3 Wuhu Island tracks which the EAD director said EAD had to edit in iwata's ask. Their main job was assisting in the art and animation department.

So Retro is to blame for the track that is "ruining" Mario Kart 7.

 

[Myriadis]

The SNES DKC game look like everything is made of plastic. Surely impressive that the SNES could do such graphics, but DKCR is easily so much better, as evidenced by the other screenshots Baby Yoshi edited in now.

 

[DCharlie]

That sounds most wise. Letting multiplatform floodgates open on "superior" versions could convince people to wait for wii u.

Well, we were destined to have this chat anyways, so might as well start here :

Those Darkstalkers 2 shots? Don't look much better than what it's going to look like on X360/PS3 - especially not to those who already have an X360/PS3.

For these multiplatform games - i don't think -anyone- who isn't a dyed in the wool Nintendo fan who hasn't bought into the current gen is going to give a twopenny fuck.

Any upgrades are going to be a bonus - now, the self same problem is going to smack X720/PS4 in the face as well if the main battle plan is to use current gen as a base, but this could be come a milstone around Wii U multi supports neck.

Again - we're likely to come back to the baseline of exactly what the WiiU can do and for that we need E3. We need to see how Wii U handles -next gen- ports to assess what we can expect for multisupport, though that's a tall order at this point given what we know of Wii U and the state of the next gen consoles.

Things that will convince people on Wii U will be third and first party exclusives. And i expect there to be some huge heavy hitters - especially in Japan. I expect some of those to start punching people in the face soon.

 

[TheCongressman1]

Had the game looked anything like this, then it would've been great.

This.

Just to be clear, I don't think DKC looks better. I don't even think DKCR looks bad, but I just don't think it's anything special. It's just pretty bland most of the time.

 

[Nibel]

Darkstalker 2?

 

[D_prOdigy]

instead of how it was displayed on the SNES?

Had the game looked anything like this, then it would've been great.

I... I might be missing something here.

 

[Sadist]

Things that will convince people on Wii U will be third and first party exclusives. And i expect there to be some huge heavy hitters - especially in Japan. I expect some of those to start punching people in the face soon.

Don't know what DQ X will do on Wii U, but I'm curious: what kind of heavy hitters?

I expect nothing on third party exclusives.

 

[Lupin the Third]

I... I might be missing something here.

A prodigy indeed. Good catch, D.

 

[DCharlie]

Don't know what DQ X will do on Wii U, but I'm curious: what kind of heavy hitters?

I expect nothing on third party exclusives.

I suspect strongly that that Nintendo-Capcom relationship spreads far and wide beyond their 3DS coziness.

 

[gashikunFLCL]

I... I might be missing something here.

Yep, before Baby Yoshi just posted the concept art, then he edited and put actual game fotage.

 

[AceBandage]

Man, Darksiders 2 is gonna be so good.

 

[Sadist]

I suspect strongly that that Nintendo-Capcom relationship spreads far and wide beyond their 3DS coziness.

Hmmm.

After the Capcom 5 I'm not so sure about that. I'd bet on a Street Fighter x Tekken Wii U versions with a few Nintendo characters like Link or Captain Falcon co-starring. On the other hand, the Wii had it's share of Capcom exclusives.

 

[HylianTom]

Hmmm.

After the Capcom 5 I'm not so sure about that. I'd bet on a Street Fighter x Tekken Wii U versions with a few Nintendo characters like Link or Captain Falcon co-starring. On the other hand, the Wii had it's share of Capcom exclusives.

I'm waiting to see if Nintendo and Capcom take things to the next level (i.e., Capcom puts its headliners on Nintendo's home console).

 

[Game-Biz]

DKC2 development team:

http://www.giantbomb.com/donkey-kong-country-2-diddys-kong-quest/61-16889/credits/

Seems like they're all still working, although a number of them at other studios now.

Any rich producers have the dough to pull off my dream passion project and get this team back together and make another one?

And looking at that list makes me realize that there's still a TON of talent over at Rare. Goddammit, MS.

 

[DCharlie]

Hmmm.

After the Capcom 5 I'm not so sure about that. I'd bet on a Street Fighter x Tekken Wii U versions with a few Nintendo characters like Link or Captain Falcon co-starring. On the other hand, the Wii had it's share of Capcom exclusives.

This is Japan i'm talking about - if they really have thrown buckets of money at Capcom to ensure that the 3DS wasn't a failure then i'm suspecting they have pre-emptively done the same for the Wii U.

 

[AceBandage]

I'm waiting to see if Nintendo and Capcom take things to the next level (i.e., Capcom puts its headliners on Nintendo's home console).

You mean like Resident Evil and Monster Hunter?
Or did you more mean like Jill in Brawl?

 

[HylianTom]

You mean like Resident Evil and Monster Hunter?
Or did you more mean like Jill in Brawl?

I'm mainly talking The mainline Resident Evil game. A numbered title. That isn't on rails.

 

[lordfroakie]

Don't know what DQ X will do on Wii U, but I'm curious: what kind of heavy hitters?

I expect nothing on third party exclusives.

I'm expect new ip exclusives for wiiu and handful of major third party exclusives.

 

[AceBandage]

I'm mainly talking The mainline Resident Evil game. A numbered title. That isn't on rails.

6 is going to be on Wii U.
There's really no reason to doubt that.

 

[lordfroakie]

6 is going to be on Wii U.
There's really no reason to doubt that.

.

 

[Übermatik]

This is why I want a HD 1080p RETRO made METROID at launch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uav4QZzOsi8&list=FLDm7kdQFaHlL7keoKtsgwtA&index=2&feature=plpp_video

 

[Sadist]

I'm waiting to see if Nintendo and Capcom take things to the next level (i.e., Capcom puts its headliners on Nintendo's home console).

I see a few of them happening. I expect a fighter, RE 6 and did we ever get an confirmation about Dead Rising 3?

This is Japan i'm talking about - if they really have thrown buckets of money at Capcom to ensure that the 3DS wasn't a failure then i'm suspecting they have pre-emptively done the same for the Wii U.

It wouldn't surprise me. I totally see something like MH 4 HD happen on Wii U with 3DS connectivity. Allthough, Capcom will have more than just MH ready for Japan. Maybe Sengoku Basara?

 

[DragonKnight]

6 is going to be on Wii U.
There's really no reason to doubt that.

Still posing our opinions as fact I see

 

[EVH]

Donkey Kong Returns was amazing in every aspect. I can't believe there's people here that disagree with that :S

 

[SolidSnakex]

6 is going to be on Wii U.
There's really no reason to doubt that.

Will it have Wiimote support? I think that's the big question. They patched in Move support for RE5: Gold Edition, but I don't think that they've confirmed that they'll support Move in RE6.

 

[AceBandage]

Still posing our opinions as fact I see

Like I said, there's no reason to doubt it'll happen.
But be picky in a thread of crazies anyway.

Will it have Wiimote support? I think that's the big question. They patched in Move support for RE5: Gold Edition, but I don't think that they've confirmed that they'll support Move in RE6.

Eh, I can see Capcom taking the easy way and basically just mapping items to the controller and not worrying about alternate controls.

 

[DCharlie]

I see a few of them happening. I expect a fighter, RE 6 and did we ever get an confirmation about Dead Rising 3?


It wouldn't surprise me. I totally see something like MH 4 HD happen on Wii U with 3DS connectivity. Allthough, Capcom will have more than just MH ready for Japan. Maybe Sengoku Basara?

I'm expecting MH to be the main crux of the deal - i guess we'll see.

 

[onilink88]

A Kirby's Epic Yarn sequel needs to happen. The game is just an absolute delight in every possible aspect.

 

[AceBandage]

A Kirby's Epic Yarn sequel needs to happen. The game is just an absolute delight in every possible aspect.

Anything from Good Feel, really.
Their 2D games would look gorgeous.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

This is why I want a HD 1080p RETRO made METROID at launch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uav4QZzOsi8&list=FLDm7kdQFaHlL7keoKtsgwtA&index=2&feature=plpp_video

I don't get it..what are you trying to say?

 

[Christine]

I don't get it..what are you trying to say?

I'm not sure either, but I never complain when someone links to the best game title screen.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

I'm not sure either, but I never complain when someone links to the best game title screen.

First one is better, imo.

 

[Sagitario]

Anything from Good Feel, really.
Their 2D games would look gorgeous.

New Yoshi's Island, plz!

 

[herzogzwei1989]

I cannot express how much I want the first (kinda) HDTV video game ever made, Hi-Ten Bomberman on Wii U with the sprite-based graphics in 1080p @ 60fps.

As very unlikely as that is to happen ;_; RIP Hudson Soft

 

[Error Macro]

A Kirby's Epic Yarn sequel needs to happen. The game is just an absolute delight in every possible aspect.

One of my favorite games of the last, pfft...fifteen years, easily. No, actually, take that qualifier out. Just one of my favorite games period.

I would love to see a Wii U sequel. It would be eye-popping with 1080p assets.

 

[Anth0ny]

A Kirby's Epic Yarn sequel needs to happen. The game is just an absolute delight in every possible aspect.

I'd rather Good Feel work on something else. Maybe a new Yoshi game.

 

[Christine]

First one is better, imo.

I'll concede the possibility that the music from the first one is better.

The text animations leading into the logo reveal trump everything, though.

If you don't concede the TKO, Echoes wins on decision because Prime's attract reel is interlaced.