My guess would be "yes." The game is being developed in-house at Capcom (not outsourced) and they seem to really want to make the game be another successful IP for them. It would therefore make sense to release it on any system that can run it in order to expose it to the widest potential buying audience. Seeing as how they seem to have a close relationship with Nintendo at the moment, it makes it even more likely IMO.
Wii U Speculation Thread The Third: Casting Dreams in The Castle of Miyamoto
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My guess would be "yes." The game is being developed in-house at Capcom (not outsourced) and they seem to really want to make the game be another successful IP for them. It would therefore make sense to release it on any system that can run it in order to expose it to the widest potential buying audience. Seeing as how they seem to have a close relationship with Nintendo at the moment, it makes it even more likely IMO.
BUT a 4830 mobility is the same chip*.
dun dun dun...
*btw said SKU was only equipped with either DDR3 or GDDR3, not GDDR5. They may have removed support for GDDR5 to make it cheaper.
All these middleware products Nintendo is licensing for its third party developers is making me think Nintendo is really going make a real strong push for indie and smaller dev groups to make software for the console. Probably on the eShop. I look at Nintendo as guardians of the game industry, since they are the only platform holder whose continued operation depends on its health, and they have long been against the skyrocketing budgets of game development.
They are trying to deliver on the promise of the original Wii: A low cost development platform (this time with modern tech) that pushes user interface.
They are trying to deliver on the promise of the original Wii: A low cost development platform (this time with modern tech) that pushes user interface.
If they want to have any chance to reach their impossible 10 million sales target, then they should port the game even to calculators
cyberheater
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But for Vita. You have to buy a memory card for it. You don't have to for WiiU.
JoshuaJSlone
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So it's worse. Not only can't a company count on a fresh Vita buyer able to play a downloadable game, but even a retail game.
Plinko
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I know--The Wii U will actually INCLUDE an 8GB HDD. It's got the advantage in this case.
andthebeatgoeson
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Paging Doctor-Yelling-At-CT-Tech-For-Radiologist's-Reading-GAF.
It's also completely irrelevant, as the final GPU isn't an off-the-shelf part.
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GameplayWhore
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Hm, what's that about a discless Xbox? I'm sure it was mentioned all over the place, but I somehow missed it.
Does that lend more credence to that earlier hubbub about there being a split in branding between a cheaper line and a performance-oriented line (for Microsoft, I mean)?
Plinko
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Because if this industry needs anything, it's MORE SKUs, am I right?
andthebeatgoeson
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What do you think the orange port is for?
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It's probably only going to use that for WiiU apps, game patches, game saves and user data.
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Well, it's not exactly adding an sku. The vaguest impression I get* is that Microsoft wants to extend the already venerable life of the 360 far into the future, as it is now quite profitable. Having a DD-only 360 that doubles as a simple set top and then having a super-unprofitable-at-first Xbox U isn't a terrible strategy. It's like if Sony actually embraced the fact that the PS2 continued to sell years after it was supposed to die. They would still be in the red for this gen, but not by nearly as much, I suspect.
*assuming that said rumour is actually true
Someone's going to have to point out where the bounced lighting is... there's certainly a number of dynamic lights in the scene though.
0_o lol Well that's what I get for taking people's word for it. I haven't seen the video in so long I don't remember many of the details.
at least you didn't have to explain what you were laughing at. damn that would be embarrasing.
Some pretty damn sweet (self)shadowing as well.
GI/ Radiosity is in the Nature demo, not in the Zelda demo. Well, maybe it's in the Zelda demo as well, but I didn't notice.
phosphor112
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errm... sensor?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yes.
blu
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The Zelda demo looks to be a classic deferred shading example. Although, deferred shading is one of the ways to mimic GI nowaydays.
I think it would be flash memory like in the Wii.
Plinko
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I highly doubt Nintendo restricts the user from using that HDD for downloadable games. That makes absolutely no sense.
Sammy Samusu
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Never thought of Vita DD as a problem, until reading that Eurogamer article.
Ok thanks, puzzling that so many people automatically assumed it was in the Zelda demo as well.
Just watched a video of the demo a few times real quick and I also didn't see any bounced lighting. As Al pointed out, there are plenty of lights in the scene, which indicates they are using deferred rendering at least.
IIRC, it would actually be pretty expensive to put in a 8GB regular HDD, since no one makes them. It's pretty much guaranteed to be SSD/Flash.
Dragon's Dogma looks like a bomb just waiting to happen, in my opinion. Every time I see a new video I just have to cringe at the cheesy animation, bad voice acting, stilted swordplay and general low budget atmosphere. But I agree that it will likely receive a Wii U port, if only because Capcom will want to recoup as much of the massive budget as they can.
I SERIOUSLY want this to be the case. GI and lighting in general is like right next to Tesselation for things I notice right away that actually enhance a game's look.
herzogzwei1989
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I've been asleep since 4:00 am eastern, what did I miss, if anything?
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Yeah, and still there is zero storage provided with the device. This really is a non issue, especially with the low prices of external 2.5 inch HDDs. Hell I have a spare TB HDD lying around, I'm set for more than one generation^^
Yeah, I managed to make my escape before having to explain why I find the idea of Bethesda needing a proper debug software amusing.
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Absolutely nothing.
blu
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Approximating global illumination via an abundance of local sources which try to mimic the bouncing light. It's a really simple idea.
GameplayWhore
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The "orange port" thing is a long running joke, since people had months of guesstime before Nintendo actually told the world was plugs into it. So it's a catchall term now which means "anything that might be an expansion port but whose exact nature has not been explained"].
8GB of solid state storage would definitely be cheaper than 8GB of rotational magnetic media.
herzogzwei1989
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How 'not good' would it be if Wii U supported DX10.1-class features (custom OpenGL for Nintendo of course) instead of DX11-class features?
Agent Unknown
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I really hope Nintendo doesn't restrict USB HDD storage (beyond general encryption/protection of course).
Sooo, what's the page limit before the next crazy über thread starts?
Sooo, what's the page limit before the next crazy über thread starts?
JoshuaJSlone
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I'm not sure 3DS lets you put eShop games there, though DSiWare games have to run from there for BC reasons. Since it also comes with an SD card, though, doesn't make much difference.
blu
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Interesting. A quick look at the supported power/PPC architectures reveals no support for IBM's power5/6/7, though. The possibilities from that are:
a) GH's IDE but IBM's compiler..
b) GH do support U-CPU but it's not listed on their site, or..
c) U-CPU is a 970-based design
;pp
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Isn't the main difference between dx10 and dx11 apart from better multiprocess support the inclusion of tessellation.
blu
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That plus enhancements in the compute shaders.
blu
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Not sure. Given the development timeframe, I'd assume they used a D3D10.1 class GPU and extended it according to their idea of a "next generation" GPU (which would also be why the initial devkits seemingly used a R700 series GPU, as those would be the most modern compatible chips they can get). Now, the end result wouldn't be D3D11 compatible, not necessarily because it lacks features, but simply because the implementations would be different. Their implementations might even be better, as Nintendo targets games and only games - they don't have to appease scientists or CAD and post production software developers and such. You don't really need double precision compute shaders or hardware accelerated antialiased points and lines in a gaming GPU.
Being a nitwit on the techside of things, I thought the biggest difference was tessellation. So if it features a tessellator...
herzogzwei1989
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I was more thinking along the lines of Pixel Shader 5.0 and tessellation which could only benefit Wii U games visually.