piratepwnsninja
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My daughter is a pedophile? Nooooooooooo!
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WildStar |OT| The biggest MMO since the Big Bang
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My daughter is a pedophile? Nooooooooooo!
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The game's not out yet. She can change her ways.
ReadingRambo
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I'll be rolling with a few friends on Exile side on a PvE server if any of you are of that persuasion.
I'm running it from Japan with a ping around 90-110 and I'm having no issues in terms of accessing the server from outside the states and dodging telegraphs and so on is perfectly fine. There have been discussions on opening Oceanic servers (official/on location) post launch to accommodate the growing number of Oceanic players who are playing with pings of around 250+.
Carbine have said that during some earlier tests that players from Europe were doing end-game (raid) content with pings of 200+ and having little issue so if that says anything at all it is that you can manage, but I imagine it would be up to the person as to how fast they can react with a handicap like that.
[Edit] I previously mention in prior discussion threads that I was interested in joining the GAF guild but a few of my friends from other games have gathered up for Wildstar progression and will be on another server and so I've decided to give it a go with them for the time being. I'll be on the Oceanic PVP server Widow if it is opened, if not, the PVE side.
I've been playing across the press access, closed beta and open beta versions from Australia and my ping has been roughly 200ms from Brisbane with Telstra cable (100mbps down). While playing I found everything apart from PvP was rather "lag-free" and I never once actually "lagged" unless it was the servers being DDoS'ed ages ago.
PvP on the other hand is a bit of a different story, had to lead my attacks and roll out pretty much instantly. Raiding was also slightly the same, though a bit more forgiving.
that1dude24
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it isn't all roses there either. game doesn't run on discrete mobile nvidia cards that use their "optimus" switching driver, it just runs on the intel chipset. devs have acknowledged the issue since september, haven't done anything to solve it.
SatelliteOfLove
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Thanks. Glad I got lazy and hadn't pulled the trigger yet.
I'm trying to get sunlight in before I go into mmo hibernation.
Yeah, I'm going hiking tomorrow. Need to make sure my muscles are strong enough to withstand the atrophy.
Core gameplay was decent. Combat was excellent.
The questing is the worst I've ever seen in an MMO and I've basically almost all of them.
Just the attitude bugs me. "Some people don't read quests so we're going to keep quest text down to 140 characters! Fuck world building! Fuck lore! Fuck story! Go kill 5 more useless things for reasons."
The questing is the worst I've ever seen in an MMO and I've basically almost all of them.
Just the attitude bugs me. "Some people don't read quests so we're going to keep quest text down to 140 characters! Fuck world building! Fuck lore! Fuck story! Go kill 5 more useless things for reasons."
Except the main story lore quests/instances aren't in the game yet as they didn't want them ruined in beta.
ReadingRambo
Member
Doesn't sound like you passed level 20.
I don't know what it is, but those censorship videos make me cringe hard. Just feels like they are trying too hard or something.
There's a few things to consider though:
1: The main world story wasn't in the beta. The world story, where you solve the mystery of Nexus and the Eldans will be in the retail game (obviously) and the first quest starts at 35 I think. This is the heavy story, cinematics and instanced story stuff. I think there's 5 of these from 35-50. Prior to 35, you'll start coming across a mysterious ghost-like NPC that will appear and disappear. Other NPCs will start to talk about who/what she is, and this will eventually lead into your first world story quest. At level cap, you will have solved the Nexus/Eldan mystery and find out about
a new threat
2: There are still story elements in basic leveling. Each zone has it's own main story, and they tie into everything as well. Then there's the not so essential quests within each zone that aren't as deep as the zone stories. Your quest tracker lists what's Zone story and what's not.
3: While early questing mechanics are simple and most of it can feel like generic kill/fetch quests, there is lore there if you want it. Every time you come into a new zone, you get a pretty enthusiastic voice over'd explanation of what's going on in that zone. And across each zone there are a lot of datacrons that you can find that will dive deeper into the lore if you want to listen (or read) to them.
I have a 5850, getting old now but it should be pulling better performance than I am. I played the beta on and off, but I'm basing my last post on the final days of beta after the patch that was supposed to make things better.
It's a shame AMD never gets as many driver updates. It can take up to 2 months sometimes for them to get their shit together. Sometimes much longer.
ReadingRambo
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It's a CPU hog more than anything.
TharpDaddy
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WildStar hides the quest in the same was that GW2 does. It's a completion bar that fills up rather than a set number. Kill a harder big enemy and you get more completion, kill a small enemy or only do a little damage to one that another play is killing and you get less of a bar.
HiddenWings
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This right here is not an actual defense. It's my primary problem with the game too. The game simply isn't engaging in any way in the low levels. I keep hearing that "it gets better" but I've gotten bored at 10-12 every beta test I've been in so far.
I figure I'll give the game an initial month, to see if it really does get better, but it really hasn't been encouraging.
Lol I died cause of this once. Tried to go the fast route and kill some higher level elite by myself instead of killing many regular mobs. Wasn't the fast route...cause I died.
Happened to me as well lol
ReadingRambo
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So despite the fact that "it gets better" is a common refrain you are want to write the game off. Show me an MMO with great early game. Wildstar's isn't even that bad....greatly exaggerated how "poor" the first 15 levels or so are.
TharpDaddy
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I think the complaints mostly come from that the first 15 levels are targeting players new to the genre. They are easing people into the various mechanics and systems. This means that MMO veterans (most of us) find it rather dull. Once level 15 comes around not only do we get access to some of the selling points of the game in group content and housing, but it also takes off the training wheels and bumps up the difficulty. Carbine has said they're aware of how boring this can be for veteran players, and they intend to add in a way to skip it post-release. It's not a critical issue though because, sorry for sounding like a broken record, Carbine's data showed that few people are quitting from levels 1-15.
From Jeremy Gaffney's AMA:
JustProgress
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I honestly don't buy that. Or Carbine is being really arrogant. I've talked to many people and seen zillions of comments on reddit, here, and other gaming sites. Everyone hates the 1-15. I've yet to see anyone like it.
Zillions of comments? That's a lot of comments.
It's not that bad, tedious and a little dull? Sure, but there are certain things that they are trying to introduce during that time.
This game was briefly on my radar 2 years ago after seeing the CGI trailer, and then only reappeared few weeks ago when Open Beta started.
Played Open Beta and holy shit, it's like WoW 2.0 and I mean that in the most flattering way possible. It's everything I loved about wow in 2004/2005 in a modern package. I've got the deluxe edition per-ordered I'm hyped as hell.
I like it. You can no longer say that you've never seen anyone like it.
Played Open Beta and holy shit, it's like WoW 2.0 and I mean that in the most flattering way possible. It's everything I loved about wow in 2004/2005 in a modern package. I've got the deluxe edition per-ordered I'm hyped as hell.
I like it. You can no longer say that you've never seen anyone like it.
ReadingRambo
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I liked it.
The majority of the player base also don't post on boards.
Admiral Snackbar
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This. Is it a revolution that we'll remember forever? No. Is it a good introduction to the mechanics and some neat set pieces? On Exile side it sure was.
Not denying you didn't like it, I'm sorry you didn't have fun!
JustProgress
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Seriously? What is one redeeming quality of the beginning of the game? It's terribad in all aspects. UI, combat (have barely a full action bar), quests, etc.
I have the game preordered and am really excited for it, but the beginning of the game is atrocious.
Atrocious is extremely harsh and hyperbolic. It's boring. Dull. Not exciting. But atrocious? "Horrifyingly wicked"?
Well for me the art style is right up my alley. I love the world and atmosphere so I get quite a lot of enjoyment just soaking that up.
What MMOs start you with full actionbars?
Sounds like a great way to overwhelm new players.
JustProgress
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Ha, I stand by it. I hated it, even with friends. Dominion side. Rolling Exile for launch so I hope it is better.
Vile filth. Scourge among scourge.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the starting area and beginning levels. The little tutorial base area can be done quickly and then they at least give a choice between two beginning leveling zones. It's not exactly great fun and it was repetitive from trying all the different classes, but there isn't much else they can do.
I thought the intro was boring, and I know most other people I know thought so, but that's also not the same thing as causing us to quit (it did make me shelf the game briefly during early beta, but it also ran poorly and had headache inducing watermarks back then). It's probably totally fine to people that aren't super advanced at MMOs, then really tedious if you're an MMO vet but not enough of a junkie to have looked into the game much (those are probably the people that actually quit during it) and then picks up again as you get MORE advanced and people can look at videos and get that that's not where they're at at level 5.
Also true. Galeras is vastly better than the other 3 areas tbh.
Also true. Galeras is vastly better than the other 3 areas tbh.
I thought Age of Conan had a really great early game with tortage, but it fell off in quality towards the endgame at launch.
Can't wait to start playing wildstar had fun in the beta, played each class to about level 8 just to get an idea of mechanics and such, but didn't want to get too far into the game in the beta, still don't know which class I want to play.