GigaBowser
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comparing switch to 40 pound consoles oohoohooohooo how bouts handhelds?
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WILL switch 2 GAMES outperform pc handhelds??
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GigaBowser
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annnnnd thirs is why switch 2 best portible on the markets for gamers plus no tonkering round with no crud settings confirmed dont know why ms releasing crud pc handheld Sony must make dedicate VITA 2
MMaRsu
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Lucifers Beard
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Fbh
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I'm not sure about the super expensive ones. But it's likely going to significantly outperform anything that isn't at least twice the price.
It's the advantage of DLSS and console games usually being more optimized with a more streamlined OS and all games being specifically made for the hardware while PC handhelds have to rely on the standard PC version...which is both a pro and a con.
It's the advantage of DLSS and console games usually being more optimized with a more streamlined OS and all games being specifically made for the hardware while PC handhelds have to rely on the standard PC version...which is both a pro and a con.
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GymWolf
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Deck has a bigger library, lower prices for games, free internet gaming and you can scale the game as you want (more details less framerate or the opposite) and all the advantages that pc has over consoles (controllers choice etc.)
I don't see any advantage for sw2 other than being more powerfull, and i'm sure steam and asus are gonna release their next projects and erase this advantage aswell.
It is gonna sell gazzillions more because you need a sw2 to play nintendo games so there is that.
I don't see any advantage for sw2 other than being more powerfull, and i'm sure steam and asus are gonna release their next projects and erase this advantage aswell.
It is gonna sell gazzillions more because you need a sw2 to play nintendo games so there is that.
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Magic Carpet
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Deck dosn't have Mario Kart. You lose.
Onironauta
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I think it will outperform all current handheld PCs in docked mode
But I think Switch 2 TDP is too low in handheld mode to compete with 780M and 890M handhelds running at 25W+ TDP
But I think Switch 2 TDP is too low in handheld mode to compete with 780M and 890M handhelds running at 25W+ TDP
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GymWolf
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Just edited my post, give me some time brah.
P.s. switch 2 is not gonna have gta6, every console lose something that other have.
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Walter Matthau
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Based on what little we've seen it seems to outperform the Steam Deck LCD/OLED, but I think Valve will release a new model in the somewhat near future as soon as Gabe thinks there's been a "generational leap".
I don't know anything about those other ones. I'm guessing they're either more powerful or jut absurdly high priced.
I don't know anything about those other ones. I'm guessing they're either more powerful or jut absurdly high priced.
Deerock71
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He kind of addressed that with his last sentence. However, I would contend Cyberpunk already looks better on Switch 2 than on the Steam Deck. I'm hoping Silent Hill 2 comes over. I played that on the deck, but never beat it.
Magic Carpet
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I'm waiting to see the DLSS in action. It's very possible the Switch 2 in docked mode will outperform every other PC handheld available. Handheld mode might actually perform worse in every metric, including visuals.
Kataploom
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As of now all the comparisons I've seen show the Switch 2 outperformin SD and Rog Ally, those machines are more expensive but because they're way too inefficient IMO, like you'd do way more with 12GB of RAM on Switch 2 than on with 16GB on Steam Deck.
And I know this is because console optimization and whatnot, but what surprises me is that this difference isn't being shown on PC vs PS5/XSX, where they perform roughly between 6600XT and 6700 which isn't far from their actual specs compared to those cards, Switch 2 looks weaker on paper in some aspects but games look way better than on portable PC, specially CP2077 that looks awful in all the footage I've seen from the SD.
And I know this is because console optimization and whatnot, but what surprises me is that this difference isn't being shown on PC vs PS5/XSX, where they perform roughly between 6600XT and 6700 which isn't far from their actual specs compared to those cards, Switch 2 looks weaker on paper in some aspects but games look way better than on portable PC, specially CP2077 that looks awful in all the footage I've seen from the SD.
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Kataploom
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Nintendo games running natively are enough of an advantage to me... Not to mention I'll play 100% on the TV and IQ wise it's finally reaching decency compared to Switch 1
Little Mac
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Didn't the hardware leak yesterday say the Steam Deck is better than the Switch 2 in portable mode?
Zathalus
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It does, but the Switch has advantages with a better API. I'm expecting them to trade blows, depending on the game.
corgiix3
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lol
Woopah
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What is lol about it?
LordOcidax
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That was a rough comparison… We still don't know, but looking at Cyberpunk on Switch 2 results is fair to say that the SW2 is clearly above the Steamdeck even in handheld mode.
dragonyeuw
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I guess it depends on how much heavy lifting baked in hardware features like DLSS and ray tracing can do. Being a fixed platform does offer the advantages of optimizing for a fixed platform with less OS overhead as compared to the PC handheld.
Any other advantages over something like a Steam Deck would be shortlived when the 2nd gen of that device comes out, let alone stuff like ROG Ally/ Legion Go which AFAIK already has better raw performance and the next gen of those systems will be out at some point. And of course the Xbox handheld will be out in 2 years( the in-house version, not the Xbox branded ROG ally one).
Any other advantages over something like a Steam Deck would be shortlived when the 2nd gen of that device comes out, let alone stuff like ROG Ally/ Legion Go which AFAIK already has better raw performance and the next gen of those systems will be out at some point. And of course the Xbox handheld will be out in 2 years( the in-house version, not the Xbox branded ROG ally one).
corgiix3
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ps4 pro is 4 t flops. You think the switch 2 while docked at 20watts in that tiny tablet is gona outperform the gpu grunt of the pro. Your in for a rude awakening
Woopah
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I was talking about Hogwarts Legacy, which will run at a higher resolution on Switch 2 than PS4 Pro.
That won't be the case on every game of course.
Radical_3d
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Will outperform everything but the Steam Deck 2.
Some current handhelds trade blows with Series S performance. And they can considerably outperform it in CPU heavy games.
There's also a fair chance 25 hardware will get FSR4 (AI grunt is comparable to switch).
The main weakness of pc hw is memory bandwidth, and while Switch on paper isn't better off, consoles can have specific optimisations on memory subsystem that don't apply to PC. This 'could' be a differentiator that allows switch to pull ahead, but we just don't have info on it yet.
Also this is all assuming somewhat comparable TDP, handhelds that run at 30+ W will compete with switch 2 docked mode, not handheld.
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Deerock71
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THIS FUGGIN' GAME! I'm probably going to pick up the key card for this. It's a launch title, and I'm weak lol. Plus, what I've played of it has been genuinely fun.
GigaBowser
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you must turn graphics off to run cyberpunk on steamdeck
VolticArchangel
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Will outperform all Steam Decks for sure because the HW is simply more capable (w/o even taking in DLSS into the equation), in both modes.
But not sure about other new ones like the new ROG Ally models or the Legion Go models with the AMD Z1 Extreme SOC's which have plenty of juice in them to run modern games at med/high (or sometimes even higher) without breaking a sweat.
DLSS might be helpful, but nothing beats native play, let alone latency. Will have to wait and see.
But not sure about other new ones like the new ROG Ally models or the Legion Go models with the AMD Z1 Extreme SOC's which have plenty of juice in them to run modern games at med/high (or sometimes even higher) without breaking a sweat.
DLSS might be helpful, but nothing beats native play, let alone latency. Will have to wait and see.
TintoConCasera
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Probably, since it has DLSS.
You are still fat tho.
You are still fat tho.
Zacfoldor
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Mostly, yes, most likely.
Mainly because of Nintendo games, their dedication to understanding their hardware, and on Switch 1 there are several what I call "golden ports" that run far, far better than they should, ie Portal Companion Collection.
There is an infrastructure there for Switch 2 that the others will not have, which gives them an advantage. Only lack of superior hardware specs holds back Switch 2 and actually the console was a lot more powerful than most people thought at the end of the day, if you watched people's expectations vs what they gave us, the power of the Switch 2 has never been an issue for the realistic.
So based on the performance of Switch 1, I'm gonna say there will likely be some amazing looking games on the thing by the end of the gen. One or two games will seem almost impossible they are being played on it when looking at the graphics or the AI or the physics, and that is just exactly like Switch 1.
Mainly because of Nintendo games, their dedication to understanding their hardware, and on Switch 1 there are several what I call "golden ports" that run far, far better than they should, ie Portal Companion Collection.
There is an infrastructure there for Switch 2 that the others will not have, which gives them an advantage. Only lack of superior hardware specs holds back Switch 2 and actually the console was a lot more powerful than most people thought at the end of the day, if you watched people's expectations vs what they gave us, the power of the Switch 2 has never been an issue for the realistic.
So based on the performance of Switch 1, I'm gonna say there will likely be some amazing looking games on the thing by the end of the gen. One or two games will seem almost impossible they are being played on it when looking at the graphics or the AI or the physics, and that is just exactly like Switch 1.
DanielG165
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I can't see the Switch 2 outperforming something like an ROG Ally Z1 Extreme/Ally X, nor a Legion Go, especially when both are plugged in/docked. Those are handhelds that can play modern UE5 games rather well, as well as other heavy current gen only titles. Then again… I don't think most people buying the Switch 2 give a damn about paper metrics and horsepower; they'll be buying it to play Mario Kart and Donkey Kong for $80-$90 (pain).
The Switch 2 has awesome hardware, for sure though.
The Switch 2 has awesome hardware, for sure though.
Zathalus
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Yeah, some here are setting themselves up for disappointment for 3rd party ports. The MSI Claw 8+ for instance runs Cyberpunk at high and 1200p with XeSS Quality. Street Fighter 6 at native 1080p at 60fps. It's more powerful than the Switch 2 is docked. But is double the price of course.
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willothedog
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But then again, PC handhelds in their 'docked' mode can utilise an eGPU.
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